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The Wrong Cat Died

Broadway Podcast Network

Grizabella was the wrong cat to die. After seeing CATS the Musical for the first time in July of 2016, podcast host Mike Abrams was filled with a whirlwind of emotions. He was amused, confused, and a little angry. Almost exactly three years later when the 2019 CATS movie trailer came out, Mike had enough. It was time to speak his truth – Grizabella was the wrong Cat to Die at the Jellicle Ball. In this podcast, Mike interviews CATS cast members, CATS superfans, CATS haters, and explores the

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Ep176 - Jonathan Burke, Mungojerrie in PAC's "CATS:...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/07/16

Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team. "In this version we are brother and sister. We have decided that Rumpleteazer is my little sister that I’ve brought into the ballroom community and she’s trying to make her own little name." This episode features Jonathan Burke who plays Mungojerrie in this production and also performed as

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Ep175 - Emma Sofia, Skimbleshanks & Cassandra in...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/07/09

Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team."Remembering the first episode I didn’t really understand CATS. Now I get it. I’m in. I drank the Kool Aid. I’m here and I love it." This episode features Emma Sofia who plays Skimbleshanks and Cassandra in this production. Emma was also Episode 35 of this show sharing her hilarious

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Ep174 - Josephine Kearns, Dramaturg & Gender...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/07/05

Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team."If I had a dollar for every time someone said ‘I’ve always hated CATS but I love this CATS’ I’d have doubled my salary on the show." This episode features Josephine Kearns who was the dramaturg & gender consultant for the production. Hear Josephine share the four year journey to bring this

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Ep173 - Sydney James Harcourt, Rum Tum Tugger in...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/07/02

Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team."I was able to let Tugger sit on me and fit on me listening to them say - you are already Tugger so just be Sydney." This episode features Sydney James Harcourt who plays the Rum Tum Tugger in the production. Hear Sydney discuss having a front row seat to the ballroom culture conversations

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Ep172 - Robert "Silk" Mason, Mr. Mistoffelees in...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/06/28

Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team."All of us have talked about how our characters are us, who we are in life." This episode features Robert "Silk" Mason who plays the magical Mr. Mistoffelees in the production. Hear Silk discuss their experience learning about CATS, how they bring their personality into the dance numbers,

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Ep171 - "Tempress" Chasity Moore, Grizabella in PAC's...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/06/25

Throughout June and July, we are working with the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS called CATS: "The Jellicle Ball" to bring you a series of episodes with the cast and creative team."When we were building, the connection between us (Macavity & Grizabella) was that he used to be in the House of Glamour at one time." This episode features "Tempress" Chasity Moore who plays Grizabella in the production. Hear Chasity discuss her experience being back on stage, how she's

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38:23

BONUS - "CATS: The Jellicle Ball" Recap with Alan...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/06/21

"I love this show and I love this production. This production was so much fun because it spans all theater fans, all ballroom fans, and just people who want to go have a good time will like this." This bonus episode is a recap of "CATS: The Jellicle Ball" featuring Mike and Alan Seales of the Theatre Podcast recorded immediately after seeing a preview of this incredible production. This episode contains a few spoilers about the show but gives a breakdown of the what to expect when you enter the PAC

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Ep170 - Mundi Gove, Head of Wig Department on US...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/06/18

"The interesting thing with CATS is that the actors eventually do their own makeup. They do all the cat makeup but it has to go into the wig." This episode features Mundi Gove who was the Head of Wig Department on the US National Tour 5 of CATS. Hear Mundi share all of the background on the wig designs, how the wig helps determine the personalities of the characters, and some fun stories from her time on tour. Plus, Mundi shares a theory on how Grizabella's wig can give thought into why she's the

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Ep169 - Mariah Reives, Cassandara on US National Tour...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/06/11

"I loved how sophisticated she was. How she allowed nothing to really bother her but she was still so fierce. And that seems like exactly the type of cat that I could be." This episode features Mariah Reives who performed as Cassandra on the US National Tour 6 of CATS before the pandemic and is currently in the ensemble in The Great Gatsby Musical at the Broadway Theatre. Hear Mariah discuss missing the final call back for CATS on Broadway, memorable stories from tour, why Jennyanydots is her

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Ep168 - 2024 St. Clair College Production ft. Kristyn...

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2024/06/04

"Once they bought into the idea of doing the show they deep dived into the internet and quickly found the hardcore fans of the musical and would show up to rehearsal and they would have all of these theories that they had never heard of before." This episode features the 2024 St. Clair College Production of CATS where I was joined by the director Kristyn Wiklanski who also played Cassandra on the 5th US National Tour in 2006 as well as Tatum Roy and Camryn Winnicky-Lewis who played Bombalurina and

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Ep167 - Chaz Wolcott, Mr. Mistoffelees on US National...

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2024/05/28

"I have a thing that I call ‘Cat Story Time’ and I sit down with the cats and I tell them my version of the events, and tell them sort of what I know." This episode features Chaz Wolcott who played the magical Mr. Mistoffelees on the US National Tour 5 of CATS and has been the director and choreographer for multiple regional productions of the show. Hear Chaz share how he booked the show multiple times with perfect timing, his experience on tour, and how he tells the story when he's directing a

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Ep166 - Kevin Winkler, Skimbleshanks on US National...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/05/21

"I had seen the show after it opened and I knew that Skimbleshanks was the role for me. I knew that was the role that I wanted to do in the show." This episode features Kevin Winkler who performed as Skimbleshanks on the US National Tour 4 of CATS and is the author of a new book called "On Bette Midler". Hear Kevin share his crazy audition stories, why he knew he was perfect for Skimbleshanks, and some fun stories from his time on tour. Plus, Kevin shares more on his book and Kevin and Mike cast the

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Ep165 - Lucy Horton, Jellylorum on US National Tour 5

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2024/05/14

"Watching the 1998 VHS which I rented on Netflix. I got the DVD mailed to me." This episode features Lucy Horton who played Jellylorum on the US National Tours 5 of CATS and in multiple regional productions. Hear Lucy share how she actually booked the show multiple times but had to turn down the contracts before joining the 5th Tour, how she approached the show on tour and regionally, and why Grizabella is still her Jellicle choice. Plus, Lucy shares a crazy story about being stuck in the tire at a

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BONUS - "CATS: The Jellicle Ball" Creative Team ft....

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/05/10

"What overtly having categories does dramaturgy of CATS itself is that there is a particular outcome of winner or loser that happens at the end of every song." This bonus episode features the creative team of the Perelman Performing Arts Center reimagined production of CATS set in a ballroom which is appropriately titled: "CATS: The Jellicle Ball". Like me, many of you have been obsessing over this new production. I originally spoke with one of the directors Bill Rauch in July of 2022 when I first

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Ep164 - Mackenzie Warren, Bombalurina on 2016...

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2024/05/07

"When I got the audition appointment I was like this would be a blast to pretend to be a cat at this audition. Let's do it. I texted Kim and asked - How much cat do you give at the audition?" This episode features Mackenzie Warren who was Bombalurina in the 2016 Broadway Revival of CATS. Hear Kim discuss seeing her friend Kim perform as Demeter in the show, how she created her backstory for Bombalurina, and her experience on the TV show Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt which had a CATS episode. Plus,

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Ep163 - Brett-Marco Glauser, Munkustrap on Royal...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/04/30

"Part of me just needed to come on and defend Munkustrap. He gets a bad rap. You haven't talked to a lot of them. It's a rough time being in a leadership position when everyone's just trying to fool around. And you talk about herding cats, literally herding cats." This episode features Brett-Marco Glauser who perform as Munkustrap on the Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas production of CATS in 2016. Hear Brett-Marco share his experience in multiple regional productions of the show

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54:08

Ep162 - Brett Michael Lockley, Pouncival on US...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/04/23

"I remember there's Green Eyes and a couple other times that the cats go into the house and into the audience. Because of everything that was going on I was an advocate about being like… can we figure out a way around that right now? And that night we didn’t." This episode features Brett Michael Lockley who performed as Pouncival on the US National Tour 5 of CATS and is currently a swing (and making his Broadway debut) in The Who's TOMMY at the Nederlander. Hear Brett discuss being in the show that

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Ep161 - Katie Hutton, Rumpleteazer on Asia Tour...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/04/16

"What I think makes CATS so special is you could look at our cast and point out any single one of us and know exactly who our cat was because we were just like them." This episode features Katie Hutton who played Rumpleteazer on the 2022-2023 Asia Tour of CATS performing in Korea and Taiwan. Hear Katie discuss learning part of the Ball for university auditions, how her friendships within the cast influenced relationships on stage, and how her own personality fit into portraying Rumpleteazer. Plus,

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44:48

Ep160 - Yardén Barr, Grizabella on Royal Caribbean...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/04/09

"A couple of cast mates and I have thought of a familial relationship for Grizabella that I haven’t heard theorized before. Maybe she is Gus’ daughter and when she left, that’s why Jellylorem started taking care of him. And that’s where Grizabella got her desire to be a star from." This episode features Yardén Barr who is current performing as Grizabella on the Royal Caribbean Cruise Line's Oasis of the Seas production of CATS. We recorded this episode during Yardén's rehearsal process before

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Ep159 - Felicia & James Gardner, Demeter &...

The Wrong Cat Died ·

2024/04/02

"I always say I owe my entire life to CATS." This episode features Felicia & James Gardner who met originally on the US National Tour 4 of CATS. Hear Felicia (Farone) and James tell the story of how they met on tour, how Felicia played Demeter while James worked as a sound engineer, how Felicia went on to make her Broadway debut in CATS, and a ton of other crazy stories. Plus, Felicia and James tell the fun story of how they didn't actually connect on tour but how they hit it off while on

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