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beyond ArtLess

Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander

“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time.

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18:06

Renee Lechner & Ian Melrose Midwest 2024

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2025/01/05

Send us a textThis Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!ORDER BEYOND ARTLESS SHIRTS HERE!https://bit.ly/ArtLessSh...

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Vicente Piqueras Midwest 2024

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2025/01/02

Send us a textThis Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!ORDER BEYOND ARTLESS SHIRTS HERE!https://bit.ly/ArtLessSh...

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Emily Chasowy Midwest 2024

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2025/01/02

Send us a textThis Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!ORDER BEYOND ARTLESS SHIRTS HERE!https://bit.ly/ArtLessSh...

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Erin Holmes & Brad Mariska Midwest 2024

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2024/12/28

Send us a textThis Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!ORDER BEYOND ARTLESS SHIRTS HERE!https://bit.ly/ArtLessSh...

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Tyler Grant & John Stewart Midwest 2024

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2024/12/28

Send us a textThis Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!ORDER BEYOND ARTLESS SHIRTS HERE!https://bit.ly/ArtLessSh...

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16:49

Chris Fogderud Midwest 2024

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2024/12/28

Send us a textThis Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!ORDER BEYOND ARTLESS SHIRTS HERE!https://bit.ly/ArtLessSh...

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9:43

Adrian Sims Midwest 2024

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2024/12/28

Send us a textThis Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!ORDER BEYOND ARTLESS SHIRTS HERE!https://bit.ly/ArtLessSh...

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15:27

Brian Balmages Midwest 2024

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2024/12/28

Send us a textThis Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!ORDER BEYOND ARTLESS SHIRTS HERE!https://bit.ly/ArtLessSh...

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Erika Tomten

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2024/12/27

Send us a textThis week’s podcast features Peter’s spouse and MUCH better half, Erika Tomten. We chat about her eclectic career as a performer, visual artist, director, teacher and more. We discuss the challenges and rewards of pursuing a career in the arts, emphasizing the importance of following one's passion and the impact of community involvement. We explore various themes including local history, the bar scene in Moorhead, the vibrant hockey culture in Fargo-Moorhead, and more. ORDER BEY...

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60:48

Kevin Day

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2024/12/15

Send us a textWhat day is it? It's Kevin Day! We had the absolute pleasure of speaking with Kevin about his incredible musical journey so far, the mentors who have shaped him, and where you'll be able to find him at the Midwest Clinic. Kevin shared insights on juggling multiple projects, including the exciting process of creating an opera. We were especially inspired when he said, "I still feel like I have a lot to say." We're grateful for his unique voice—though we wouldn't mind if the hosts...

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JoAnne Harris & Carol Brittin Chambers

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2024/12/08

Send us a textWe had to do something to balance the scales - a single guest never stood a chance against three awful hosts. This week we invite two guests at the same time. JoAnne Harris and Carol Brittin Chambers. What followed was a lot LESS talking from the hosts and a lot MORE talking from our guests! What fun to spend an hour with these two amazing composers who just happen to be our featured composers for the 2026 ComMission Possible Project! The registration link can be found below. Co...

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57:42

Kevin Charoensri

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2024/12/01

Send us a textChris, Peter and Phil finally get to the bottom of what is wrong with Gen X. But only with the help of our gen Z guest, Kevin Charoensri. While he has only been composing less than 10 years and he has not even finished his undergraduate degree, his works have been performed all over the country and he has been an artist in residence at numerous colleges. If you count “crashing on a couch” as an artist in residence, our hosts are nationally renowned experts.&nbs...

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60:58

Stephen Bolstad

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2024/11/24

Send us a textWant to hear your awkward podcast hosts get quizzed by the guest? Want to hear more about how Peter rarely shows up to a gig? Want to buy a T-shirt? How about trombone jokes? Well, this is the episode for you! Dr. Stephen Bolstad joins the crew this week and shares wisdom from a career as a teacher, conductor, and musician. There is something for everyone here, but you have to weed through all the long and winding questions from Peter first. ORDER BEYOND ARTLESS SHIRTS HERE!http...

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61:49

Steve Sveum

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2024/11/17

Send us a textGood friend and exceptional music educator Steve Sveum joins us this week for a great conversation about his start in music as well as some very special mentors like Bernie Powers, Ron Carter, and more. We talk Jazz at Lincoln Center, Birch Creek Arts Camp, Essentially Ellington, Snug Harbor, Bacon Happy Hour, and even kitchen remodeling. Steve offers great insight into the essence of swing and some special memories of the late Ron Carter. Despite Peter talking into pillows, Phi...

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56:20

Dana Wilson

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2024/11/10

Send us a textBrilliant composer Dana Wilson is one of a kind! In addition, he is one of the kindest guests we have ever had on the podcast. Dana has written for soloists from the Chicago Symphony and also music for young band. Peter, Phil, and Chris try to keep up with our guest and as expected fall well short in that pursuit. Peter can barely get out of his bed for the podcast, Chris is still in a daze from the Packer game and Phil stumbles through random thoughts di...

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56:49

Emily Moss

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2024/11/03

Send us a textChris and Peter share stories about their trip to Montana while Phil shares a story about his trombone being seized by TSA. Thankfully Dr. Emily Moss joins us to share her musical journey, the importance of mentorship, and her approach to teaching conducting. We discuss the evolving landscape of music education careers, the challenges faced by educators, and the need for a cultural shift in how success is defined within the profession. The conversation is interspersed with humor...

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57:32

James Weaver

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2024/10/27

Send us a textDearest commuter, this week Phil and Peter share the same physical location resulting in noticeable tension during the show. Chris realizes that AI can now do podcasts better than this show (not a high bar). Thankfully, Dr. James Weaver, Director of Performing Arts and Sports for the National Federation of High School State Associations, visits with us to explain the implications of AI technology on music and education along with a number of other topics including the significan...

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67:40

Robert Baca

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2024/10/20

Send us a textTry hard not to confuse this episode with a guide for folks over 50 needing help with their vision. Mercifully, our guest saves our hosts from themselves. Bob Baca is a visionary trumpet player, educator and musical leader. Join us as we hear about hot dish, snowmobiles, middle school bands with recording contracts and more. The podcast also leans perilously close to a regular ending or collapseaTango. Show Notes:https://www.uwec.edu/profiles/bacarjh...

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66:10

Lowell Graham

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2024/10/13

Send us a textWarning, Chris brings up the stinger yet again, Phil is back in his closet, and Peter continues to get hounded, no pun intended, by his dog Louie. Thankfully, Colonel Lowell Graham stops by to share his experiences from his time leading the United States Air Force Band to his passion for motorcycles and soundtracks. He emphasizes the importance of community, mentorship, and curiosity in personal and professional growth. Colonel Graham reflects on the skills learned through music...

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59:32

Peter Gamwell

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2024/10/06

Send us a textPhil is only present for about 10 minutes of this show. Why? You'll just have to listen to find out. Need an even better reason to listen to this week's episode? Gotcha covered! Meet Dr. Peter Gamwell. Peter is an award-winning leader in education and is recognized internationally for his work in advancing creative organizational cultures. With over ten years of research, he has collaborated with experts like Sir Ken Robinson to uncover the conditions under which creativity thri...

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