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beyond ArtLess

Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander

“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time.

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57:32

James Weaver

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2024/10/27

Send us a textDearest commuter, this week Phil and Peter share the same physical location resulting in noticeable tension during the show. Chris realizes that AI can now do podcasts better than this show (not a high bar). Thankfully, Dr. James Weaver, Director of Performing Arts and Sports for the National Federation of High School State Associations, visits with us to explain the implications of AI technology on music and education along with a number of other topics including the significan...

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67:40

Robert Baca

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2024/10/20

Send us a textTry hard not to confuse this episode with a guide for folks over 50 needing help with their vision. Mercifully, our guest saves our hosts from themselves. Bob Baca is a visionary trumpet player, educator and musical leader. Join us as we hear about hot dish, snowmobiles, middle school bands with recording contracts and more. The podcast also leans perilously close to a regular ending or collapseaTango. Show Notes:https://www.uwec.edu/profiles/bacarjh...

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Lowell Graham

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2024/10/13

Send us a textWarning, Chris brings up the stinger yet again, Phil is back in his closet, and Peter continues to get hounded, no pun intended, by his dog Louie. Thankfully, Colonel Lowell Graham stops by to share his experiences from his time leading the United States Air Force Band to his passion for motorcycles and soundtracks. He emphasizes the importance of community, mentorship, and curiosity in personal and professional growth. Colonel Graham reflects on the skills learned through music...

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59:32

Peter Gamwell

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2024/10/06

Send us a textPhil is only present for about 10 minutes of this show. Why? You'll just have to listen to find out. Need an even better reason to listen to this week's episode? Gotcha covered! Meet Dr. Peter Gamwell. Peter is an award-winning leader in education and is recognized internationally for his work in advancing creative organizational cultures. With over ten years of research, he has collaborated with experts like Sir Ken Robinson to uncover the conditions under which creativity thri...

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54:14

Meagan Bachmayer & Katherine Bergman

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2024/09/29

Send us a textProfessional wind ensemble, you say? Minnesota Winds has arrived, commuter. This ensemble comes complete with monster musicians, a website second to none and merch that some listeners (Paul Kile) refuse to take off. Listen to the architects of the group Meagan Bachmeyer and Katherine Bergmann talk about not only great performances but also an incredible mission to educate and integrate with the greater band community! Then you can also listen to Phil, Pet...

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60:08

James Stephenson

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2024/09/22

Send us a textThis week Jim Stephenson made the unfortunate choice to join us. We talk about his amazing sports career as a youth, how he had to choose between golf or music, and how everything in his life happens by accident. Phil sputters sentence fragrances, Chris gets distracted often, and Peter asks questions that are so long and winding that no one knew what the question was by the time he stopped yammering. We cover his life as a professional trumpet player, conductor, and of cour...

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63:28

Sara Knueve & Laura Roeker

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2024/09/15

Send us a textComing directly from the land of acronyms, our guests this week expanded this podcast's horizons while stretching the hosts' minds (not hard to do). We are thrilled to have you meet two amazing leaders from the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction: Dr. Laura Roeker, Director of Teaching and Learning, and Sara Kneuve, Policy Advisor. Laura and Sara discuss their roles at the department, their journey into education, current projects, complex challenges, advocacy, personal e...

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68:40

Cynthia Johnston Turner

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2024/09/08

Send us a textYet another episode marred by excessive talking by Peter, poor introductions by Phil and general sleepiness by Chris. Thankfully, our guest compensates for all of our poor hosting. Dr. Cindi Johnson Turner has spent her career successfully guiding musicians at every level – middle schoolers, college students at Cornell University, the University of Georgia and now as Dean of Music at Wilfrid Laurier University in Waterloo, Ontario Canada. Cindi shares with all ...

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65:39

Jack Stamp

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2024/09/01

Our previous two seasons began with a guest named Scott. This year we start with a Stamp and we couldn't be happier! Jack Stamp stops in to share his journey from being a seventh-grade percussionist to becoming a composer and conductor. He reveals his experiences in the music industry, including his work with various ensembles and publishers. Jack also talks about the importance of asking 'why' when doing score study as a conductor and composer, and the value of teaching through music. He men...

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10:34

Season 3 Teaser

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2024/08/24

Hey Commuters - We are back for another season! This episode is especially bad as it contains no guests! Instead, you can listen to Phil, Peter, and Chris reunite after an eventful summer filled with medical visits, witness relocation programs, and new seasons resolutions. This is definitely an espisode to skip but I guess you've come this far...why not keep going. The good news is that it is only 10 minutes long. Back next week with a FABULOUS guest that you actually want to hear! ...

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Live From The Festival

beyond ArtLess ·

2024/06/09

The Season 2 Finale is here! As you will hear, we end the season with more of a whimper than a bang. Regardless, thank you for sticking with us through another season. We are tremendously grateful to all of our guests this past season as well as our six listeners. Have a great summer! We look forward to subjecting you to more mind numbing banter next fall. Support the Show.

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66:56

Lt. Col. Ryan Nowlin

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2024/06/02

Our final guest of season 2 is Lt. Col. Ryan Nowlin, the 29th Director of "The President's Own" United States Marine Band! Our conversation covers Ryan's career path from public school music teacher to staff arranger and now Director of "The President's Own." We learn more about his work in this role as well as collaborations with Beyoncé, Kelly Clarkson and John Williams to name a few. As you will hear in this episode, Ryan is one of the most humble and kind individuals you will ever meet. H...

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54:36

Christine & Tim Baumann

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2024/05/26

In this episode, we talk to Peter about his trip to Panama. No, it is not part of the witness protection program...well, not this time. Our guests, Tim and Christine Baumann share with us their amazing journey in music education (and the planet). They talk about their experiences teaching music in Hong Kong and their roles as co-directors of the International Music Camp in North Dakota. Tim and Christine discuss the different programs offered at the camp and how their travels have changed the...

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63:08

Jeff Ball

beyond ArtLess ·

2024/05/18

In this episode, Phil turns 50. Don’t worry, his status with AARP doesn’t affect his podcasting ability. Thankfully, Jeff Ball stops by for a chat. Jeff is the Director of Bands and Coordinator of Performing Arts at the Grand Street Campus (GSC) High Schools in the Bushwick neighborhood of Brooklyn, NY. He is also the Founder, Artistic Director and Conductor of the Brooklyn Wind Symphony, established in 2008 as the Grand Street Community Band. From its original thirty members, the organizatio...

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66:07

Josh Becker

beyond ArtLess ·

2024/05/12

Dr. Josh Becker, a trombone player and elementary school teacher, shares his experiences and insights. He teaches fifth grade and coordinates the elementary band program in the Rosemount-Apple Valley-Eagan School District in Minnesota. He also runs an instrument donation program, providing instruments to students who cannot afford them. Dr. Becker emphasizes the importance of variety in his teaching career, working with students of different ages and skill levels. He discusses the challenges ...

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John Mackey

beyond ArtLess ·

2024/05/05

This week's guest is John Mackey. It is worth the listen even with the three hosts still involved. Yet, it is important to note an interesting development - the software we use to produce this podcast now offers AI episode summary and "takeaways". This week's takeaways were too good not to share:TakeawaysSometimes it's necessary to hide in a closet to escape from family or visitorsJazz Fest can be a fun and memorable experienceHaving an openable window in a closet is unusualSkipping sch...

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Jon & Sara Baumann

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2024/04/28

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Shortest Show Ever!

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2024/04/21

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66:24

Erin Gleason

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2024/04/14

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69:59

Choose Your Own ArtLess

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2024/04/06

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