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Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.

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14:41

BONUS: Humanity's Healing Orchestra

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/04/17

Thomas explores the qualities of leadership and collaboration that are needed to heal collective trauma. He shares how each of us plays a unique role—like musicians in an orchestra—contributing our distinct talents to a larger symphony of healing and transformation. Thomas addresses the impact of fear-based systems rooted in hierarchical power and advocates for shifting toward creative, relational models of leadership. He stresses the importance of self-reflection, community, and attuning to the

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59:04

Bayo Akomolafe, PhD | Bold Frontiers of Spiritual...

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/04/15

Thomas Hübl sits down with celebrated speaker, posthumanist thinker, poet, teacher, and author Bayo Akomolafe to explore the leading edges of spiritual thinking and human identity. Bayo is a deeply experimental thinker, informed by the African cosmologies of the Yoruba and Igbo traditions. He leads an exploration into a new paradigm of healing that de-centers the individual to focus on the village, on the communal. He and Thomas discuss how modernity, especially in Western cultures, creates a false

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19:30

Regulate to Resonate

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/04/08

Thomas explores the relationship between inner space and outer space, examining the ecosystemic impacts of nervous system regulation, presence, and maturity. He shares how contemplative practices, such as meditation, help develop the parts of our brain that promote regulation, the importance of developing a daily practice, and the maturity in knowing when to slow down and take a step back from stressful situations, news, and social media. Tune in to learn how our individual regulation and presence

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48:20

Diane Musho Hamilton | Waking Up & Growing Up

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/04/01

Thomas and Zen teacher, mediator, and author Diane Musho Hamilton explore two key spiritual concepts—waking up and growing up— and why they’re so crucial in our rapidly changing world. Diane shares personal stories of loss, challenge, and resilience, and how contemplative practice and emotional development became essential tools for navigating adversity. They discuss spiritual practice, recognizing interconnectedness, and conflict resolution as necessary pathways for individual and collective

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07:27

Bonus Meditation: Mapping the Mind

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/03/27

In this guided meditation, Thomas invites you to explore the current state of your mind. Explore your attachment to your thoughts and welcome a greater sense of presence and curiosity. Watch the video version of the episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/Q0Tty5OWpwI ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ NEW Live, Online Course - Practicing Meditation: Breath, Body, and Vitality Deepen your meditation practice and harmonize mind, body, and

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44:33

Loretta J. Ross | Cultivating Collective Liberation

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/03/25

Thomas and award-winning reproductive justice and human rights leader Loretta J. Ross explore how we can address inequality, oppression, and hate in an atmosphere of political division and fast-paced technological progress. Loretta shares experiences that helped her form more effective strategies to solve social problems collectively and build inclusive movements that fight oppression with love, hope, and community instead of hate, anger, and vengeance. She and Thomas discuss the concept of “Calling

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23:05

The Spiritual Flow of Healing

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/03/18

Thomas dives deep into the relationship between spirituality and healing, exploring how maturing our relationship with the divine provides incredible resources on our journey of self-discovery and ethical development. This teaching expands on the core spiritual principle of grace, its relationship to forgiveness, and the importance of owning your choices and transgressions as you expand your consciousness and connection to spirit. Thomas explores how to regain connection to our spiritual essence

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43:27

Dr. Lisa Miller | The Science of Spiritual Awakening

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/03/11

Thomas and Dr. Lisa Miller, a clinical psychologist, professor, and NYT bestselling author, explore humans’ innate capacity for spirituality. Dr. Lisa explains how neuroscience and cutting-edge research help us understand our hard-wired drive for spiritual awareness and what these discoveries mean for the way we approach our spiritual journeys…and our entire lives. According to Dr. Miller, we’re all receptive to transcendent relationships, we are all emanations of the same source, and there is hard

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56:52

Mathieu Lefevre | The Power of Connection to Bridge...

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/03/04

Thomas is joined by Mathieu Lefevre, co-founder of More In Common, to explore the growing polarization in society and the surprising ways in which we are actually more united than we think. Mathieu discusses his extensive research on social divisions in the U.S. and Europe, revealing how social media and news media create a distorted mirror of reality that exaggerates our differences. He explains the concept of perception gaps, where people overestimate how extreme their opponents’ views are, and

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26:09

Navigating the Waters of Complexity

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/02/25

How can we stop repeating patterns from the past? Thomas Hübl explores what it will take for individuals and societies to respond maturely to the current atmosphere of collective stress and not give in to polarizing and fragmenting forces. In our lives and in our histories, we see repeating patterns and often react in unhealthy ways. To address these collective issues, we need to look inside—check in with ourselves when we’re triggered, and develop a more fluid and integrated perspective. Thomas

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19:02

Bonus: The River of Time

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/02/20

Thomas explores three dimensions of time that shape our spiritual practice, and our healing journeys: the flowing 'river of time,' the frozen pockets of trauma that disrupt its movement, and the profound stillness of timelessness. Through deep introspection and integration, uncover how to transform stuck patterns into a liberated flow, embracing the wisdom of both modern psychology and ancient traditions. This bonus podcast episode is dropping on the two-year anniversary of Point of Relation! Stay

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48:43

Zander Grashow | Adapative Leadership for the Future

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/02/18

Thomas is joined by author, artist, and founder and CEO of Adaptive Leadership, Zander Grashow, for a conversation on the type of leadership that’s needed as humanity faces an unprecedented acceleration of social and technological change. In order for us to meet this moment, we need to dismantle broken and corrupted systems, develop new social and relational skills, and collectively re-imagine the future that we want to work towards. This requires us to stay engaged despite the difficulty, and find

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55:42

Tiokasin Ghosthorse | The Intuition of Earth

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/02/11

Thomas is joined by educator, musician, activist, and creator of First Voices Radio, Tiokasin Ghosthorse. Tiokasin is a member of the Cheyenne River Lakota Nation of South Dakota, and shares deep wisdom from the Lakota worldview, language, and traditions. He and Thomas explore ways for us to redefine our relationship with Mother Earth, moving away from a mindset of separation and domination towards one of interconnectedness, mutual becoming, and intuition. Tiokasin shares how we can be more in tune

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26:07

The Spiritual Ethics of Trauma Healing

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/02/04

Thomas Hübl explores what it means to get in touch with our deepest humanity, live our spirituality with respect to the freedom of all humans, and move through the world with embodied awareness. We are all composed of a divine light—an unbroken stream of data that began with our oldest ancestors. But we have also inherited trauma from those who came before us, and from the events of our own lives. Healing and integrating these traumas has an ecosystemic impact, it ripples out to those around us and

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54:31

Elise Loehnen | Mystical Explorations of Good and Evil

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/01/28

Thomas Hübl and NYT bestselling author and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, Elise Loehnen, explore the nature of shadow, evil, and collective trauma from a mystical and spiritual perspective. They discuss the impact of unprocessed pain and ancestral wounds, the obstacles we face as we work to integrate our individual and collective shadows, and the challenges (and benefits) of staying present in a world shaped by both light and darkness. Elise poses profound questions about the moral

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07:03

Bonus: Emptying the Mind

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/01/23

Thomas reads a short passage from the Tao Te Ching and shares spiritual practices and conceptual tools to help you let go of unhelpful ideas you’re clinging to and create spaciousness in your mind and body. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and

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46:44

Dr. Shefali | Embracing Conscious Parenting

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/01/21

Thomas is joined by Dr. Shefali, a clinical psychologist, bestselling author, and host of the Parenting & You podcast. Dr. Shefali is an expert on “Conscious Parenting,” an approach to raising children that focuses on the need for parents to identify and heal from their own traumas—especially childhood traumas—so that they don’t pass on harmful patterns and behaviors to their kids. She and Thomas discuss the importance of creating emotional safety in parent-child relationships (and all

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51:26

Tamala Floyd | Healing Our Parts and Our Selves

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/01/14

Thomas is joined by Tamala Floyd, a psychotherapist, IFS lead trainer, speaker, and the author of “Listening When Parts Speak: A Practical Guide to Healing with Internal Family Systems Therapy and Ancestor Wisdom.” They discuss the relationship between the “Self” and the multiple “parts” of the self in Internal Family Systems work, and how understanding and integrating our protective parts helps us heal past traumas and establish a stronger relationship with our innate, inner selves. Tamala shares

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54:17

Michael Meade | Rites of Passage

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2025/01/07

Thomas Hübl is joined by renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, Michael Meade. They discuss transformation as an essential element of life, and how embracing radical transformation—both personally and as a collective—allows us to get in touch with our deeper selves. Michael draws on his knowledge of ancient rites of passage, mythology, and initiation rituals to help define the liminal space humanity finds itself in right now. As we stand on a cultural and environmental threshold, we

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31:14

Cultivating Space

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/12/31

Thomas Hübl dives deep into how we can learn to be more grounded in stressful moments, and grow our resilience, agency, and ability to respond to challenges. He shares insights and practices to activate curiosity, exploring how we can expand our individual healing into the community. We're living in a very complex time - a global poly-crisis situation where the topics reverberating in the world might feel overwhelming, isolating, triggering, distancing, even creating indifference. Thomas focuses on

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