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Whatever Comes Next with Tom Osman

Getting to know the music makers out on the fringes

On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more. tomosman.substack.com

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Episode 46: F**k Your Birthday

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2024/12/03

When garage/punk rock duo Christopher Henry and Roman Meisenberg started making music together in West Virginia as F**k Your Birthday, they probably didn’t imagine they'd end up living and playing in Wenzhou, China, but you never know where life will take you.Chris and Roman discuss their latest EP BBQd (out now on Nefarious Industries), adapting to life in China, other musical projects and how they both jumped from teaching to follow careers in mixing and music production (Chris) and photography

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Episode 45: Nikos Vlachakis (Föhn)

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2024/11/26

Formed in 2016 by friends and former bandmates Georgios Schoinianakis and Nikos Vlachakis, Föhn is a funeral-doom project based out of Athens, Greece.After several years crafting the tracks that would become debut album Condescending, the lineup of Föhn was completed in 2023, with bassist Georgios Miliaras joining before the now three-piece band entered the studio to create one of the most sonically and emotionally heavy albums of 2024.Vocalist Vlachakis discusses the album, his enduring friendship

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Episode 44: Jona Nido (Coilguns, Humus Records)

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2024/11/19

Five years on from their last studio album, Watchwinders, Swiss noise-rock group Coilguns return with a new addition on bass and synths (Kevin Galland) and an evolution in their sound with latest record Odd Love. Guitarist and founding member Jona Nido talks about the record, Humus Records (the label he started for Coilguns that has grown to put out music by dozens of bands), being the band's tour manager and more. Band photos: Andy Ford (@AndyFordUK) Closing track: "Generic Skincare" (Humus

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Episode 43: Tamás Kátai (Thy Catafalque)

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2024/11/12

To call XII: A gyönyörű álmok ezután jönnek (the 12th record by Thy Catafalque) avantgarde metal doesn’t quite give a full picture, but then no simple classification really could. Born out of black metal roots, the band (originally a duo) has evolved to take in everything from prog rock, Hellenic folk music and alternative rock (with extreme metal still a major component of the latest record ). Tamás Kátai discusses the album in detail, touching on performing, songwriting and some of his own

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Episode 42 Veilburner

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2024/11/05

Since their formation in 2014 Veilburner have been carving out their own particular place in the realm of extreme metal. Honing their unique brand of experimental dissonant blackened death metal, the duo of Mephisto Deleterio and Chrisom Infernium have created a musical, visual and mythic world that is all their own — with the duo operating behind a mysterious masked appearance that evolves with each album. Back in early 2019 (following the release of the band's fourth album, A Sire to the Ghouls of

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Episode 41: Django Haskins (The Old Ceremony)

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2024/10/29

Earthbound is the new album by noir-pop band The Old Ceremony — a collection of beautifully constructed songs, from a band led since its formation in 2004 by singer and multi-instrumentalist Django Haskins. Although it's been nine years since the band's last album, you can be sure that Django, (with his various other projects, teaching and family commitments) hasn't been twiddling his thumbs at any point. We discuss the latest record, Django's songwriting, his many years of performing, influences,

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Episode 40: God Bullies

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2024/10/22

As Above, So Below — the first God Bullies album in 30 years, recently released on Reptilian Records — has a very different lineup to the last time the band appeared on record, but the story of frontman and founding member Mike Hard and guitarist Scott Kodrik goes back many years. The two discuss some of the many tales from decades spent navigating the noise-rock underground, from their peculiar first meeting, their time together in Thrall and how this new iteration of God Bullies came about and

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Episode 39 Anouk Degrande (Dirty Shades)

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2024/10/15

Next Friday sees French rock group Dirty Shades release Stuck in Motion — their debut album.Anouk Degrande discusses the band’s songwriting, the cost of recording, music promotion, and how it is for independent artists working in France. Band photo: Guido Robard Closing track: "Cannon Fodder" - Stuck in Motion (Modulor Music 2024) Check out all things Dirty Shades: https://www.instagram.com/dirtyshadesmusic/ https://www.facebook.com/dirtyshadesofficial/

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Episode 38: Andy Ortmann (Panicsville, Nihilist)

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2024/10/08

Andy Ortmann is a music maker, a visual artist and the founder of Nihilist Recordings. We discuss some of the releases, performances and stories of Andy's career — which stretches back to the early 90s. Whether it's the many costumes worn onstage as part of his band Panicsville, the unique packaging of some of his own releases (and others on Nihilist) or the variety of different recording methods employed over the years, Andy continues to find new ways not to repeat himself. Andy shares tales of

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Episode 37: Kyle Alexander (Death Doula)

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2024/10/01

It was with singer and guitarist Kerry Jones that the idea of Death Doula first originated, but it was only after meeting guitarist and sound-maker Kyle Alexander that Death Doula the band really started to take shape. With the line up of the band rounded out with Keith Vidal on bass and Adam Kozie on drums, Death Doula are poised to release their debut album Love Spells. Kyle joins me to talk about the album, the band's origins and why making music with Kerry is so special. Closing track: "The

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Episode 36: Nick Sakes (Upright Forms)

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2024/09/24

Nick Sakes got into music relatively late, first picking up a guitar at the age of 26. First fronting the intense and influential Dazzling Killmen in the 90s, Nick has gone on to play, tour and record as part of Colossamite, Sicbay and Xaddax. His current band Upright Forms (along with bassist-vocalist Noah Paster & drummer Shaun Westphal) recently released their debut album Blurred Wires on SKiN GRAFT Records. Still with some of the old abrasive, angular fury in his music, Upright Forms demonstrate

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Episode 35: Manic Abraxas

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2024/09/17

Pity the fool who tries to sum up Manic Abraxas in three or four words. Taking major inspiration from the genre-hoping Celtic Frost, Manic Abraxas draw whatever influences they please into their petrol-soaked stew of dirty, chugging, psychedelic hard rock... or is it metal? You can decide for yourself. With founder Dallas Seger on guitars/vocals/synths alongside Justin Hamm on bass/vocals/synth and Tom Bennett on drums, the band recently released their sci-fi-inspired Skinformation album. Dallas and

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Episode 34: Mast Year

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2024/09/03

Born in the midst of Covid upheaval Baltimore, Maryland’s noise-rock unit Mast Year have been making good use of their short time together. Having put out their debut record, Knife, last year, the four-piece of Noel Mueller (guitar), Darin Tambascio (bass), Ben Price (drums) and Eric Rhodes (vocals), recently released their follow up Point of View on guitarist Noel’s Grimoire Records. Drawing from a range of influences, Mast Year’s music is dark, grimy and often bleak, but as quickly becomes clear

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Episode 33: Anciients

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2024/08/22

Having to deal with losing multiple band members and a global pandemic between albums might not be the most uncommon story for musicians over the past few years. For Kenny Cook and Anciients, however, that’s just one part of the story of how the band went from releasing their second album, Voice of the Void, in 2016 to now, in 2024, being on the cusp of releasing their follow-up record Beyond the Reach of the Sun. As Kenny discusses in our interview, even as the Canadian progressive-metal act was

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Episode 32: David Judson Clemmons

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2024/08/16

The musical story of singer, guitarist and songwriter David Judson Clemmons goes back to the late 80s and right up to the present day. It includes playing with future Nu-Metal production whizz Ross Robinson and working with Michael Jackson recording engineer Brian Malouf. It's a story that also features future Machine Head drummer Dave McLean and former Megadeath guitarist Chris Poland. From Virginia, to LA to Berlin, Germany and from Ministers of Anger, to Damn The Machine, to JUD and an extensive

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Episode 31: Justin Pearson (Three One G)

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2024/08/08

Justin Pearson's first band, Struggle, was formed after a Suicidal Tendencies show on JP's 15th birthday. Within that year he already had his first experience of being on a label and touring. Since then, JP has not only been part of a host of punk and outsider bands, (from The Locust and Dead Cross, to currently, Planet B, Deaf Club and Satanic Planet), but also an author, podcast host, publicist and record label owner. In this conversation, we go all the way back to JP's early years in Phoenix,

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Episode 30: Forty Feet Tall

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2024/08/01

Portland, Oregon's Forty Feet Tall play rock n' roll... or is post-punk... or is it psych rock? Well, it's something of all these styles and probably more. The four piece have been honing their sound for over a decade. With the current line-up of Cole Gann (vocals/guitar), Jack Sehres (guitar), Brett Marquette (bass/backup vocals) and Ian Kelley (drums) firmly cemented, the band's latest single "Isochronism" is hot off the presses and featuring a delightfully trippy video (directed by the band's

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Episode 29: Jon Ehlers (Bangladeafy)

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2024/07/23

Jon Ehlers (vocals, synths, samplers) and Atif Haq (drums) have been making music together as Bangladeafy for almost 15 years. During that time the duo has carved out a sound that's wholly their own. Why so particular? Well, there are a number of reasons you could point to, but you probably couldn't describe it better than Jon Ehlers could and that's what we've got right here in this episode of the podcast. Bangladeafy have also just released album number six, Vulture (on Nefarious Industries) and

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Episode 28: Three Second Kiss

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2024/07/16

Three Second Kiss are not a band to be rushed. When they’re ready, they’re ready. That said, sometimes unexpected events can throw a spanner in the works. So it was with the Covid pandemic, when Sergio Carlini( Guitar), Massimo Mosca (Bass & Vocal) and Sacha Tilotta (Drums) found themselves ready to make an album, but unable to be together in one room. Ultimately though, perseverance prevailed, the result being From Fire I Save The Flame (Overdrive Records), an album bristling with electrical

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Episode 27: Mutes

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2024/07/09

While having existed as a three-piece for around half a dozen years, the story of Birmingham's Mutes goes back further. Back in 2014 singer, guitarist and chief-songwriter James put out his first eponymous EP as Mutes. Ten years later Mutes the band (comprising James, Craig Bainton on drums and Thomas Hewson on bass) have recently released the band’s fourth full-length album ...buried where you stand (No Sound Records). Putting Mutes, and their latest album, in a neat box isn't so easy. You could

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