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Museum Confidential

Philbrook Museum of Art

Museum Confidential is a behind-the-scenes look at museums hosted by Jeff Martin. The show is a co-production of Philbrook Museum of Art and Public Radio Tulsa. New episodes every two weeks.

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26:16

Troy Montes-Michie

Museum Confidential ·

2022/03/11

Troy Montes-Michie was born in El Paso. Border towns are a natural mash-up of cultures, traditions, languages, food, fashion, and nearly everything else. It’s no surprise that Montes-Michie turned his focus to collage, creating instantly recognizable works using magazine clippings, pornography, images of the Black male body, and plenty of zoot suits. In “Rock of Eye,” the artist’s first solo museum exhibition, these collages can be seen alongside, drawings, sculptures, and installations. On view

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27:49

Beeple Comes Alive

Museum Confidential ·

2022/02/25

Mike Winkelmann has been creating digital art for over two decades. He’s 40 years old, lives in South Carolina, and has a computer science degree from Purdue. But this isn’t a show about Mike Winkelmann. This is a show about Beeple, the name by which Winkelmann is best known, the name that took the art world by storm in 2021 when an NFT of his nearly 15-year project, EVERYDAYS, sold for a record $69.3 million. Still not sure what NFTs are? We’ll get to that.

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28:46

The Spiritual Side of Art

Museum Confidential ·

2022/02/11

In the years before World War 2, a group of artists gathered in New Mexico to “carry painting beyond the appearance of the physical world, through new concepts of space, color, light, and design, to imaginative realms that are idealistic and spiritual.” They called themselves the TRANSCENDENTAL PAINTING GROUP. On this episode we chat with Philbrook Curator Susan Green about the special exhibition, ANOTHER WORLD, the first comprehensive traveling exhibition to explore work by the group. On view at

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26:20

Who's Harold Stevenson?

Museum Confidential ·

2022/01/28

Oklahoma artist Harold Stevenson (1929-2018) created big paintings and lived an even bigger life in New York, Paris, Key West, and the Hamptons, becoming best friends with Andy Warhol along the way. For much of the past decade, Dian Jordan (The University of Texas Permian Basin) has been researching Stevenson’s singular life, gathering an archive, and laying the groundwork for a definitive biography.

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29:31

Live From Aspen: Why Warhol Persists

Museum Confidential ·

2022/01/07

We haven’t done a live audience show in ages. So when the invitation came to travel to Aspen, Colorado for the opening of a new Andy Warhol show at the Aspen Art Museum, we jumped at the opportunity. ANDY WARHOL: LIFETIMES is a career-spanning show originated at the Tate Modern. The AAM invited Los Angeles-based artist Monica Majoli to re-conceptualize the presentation. It’s invigorating. This chat features Majoli, Assistant Curator Simone Krug, and the Museum’s Director, Nicola Lees.

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29:00

Mark Mothersbaugh

Museum Confidential ·

2021/12/17

Mark Mothersbaugh has been a creative force for well over 40 years. From co-founding DEVO to scoring countless films and shows, his impact is undeniable. That body of work includes many collaborations with filmmaker Wes Anderson (“The Royal Tenenbaums”). We invited Mark to provide an exclusive musical experience for our special exhibition, “THIS IS AN ADVENTURE: Accidentally Wes Anderson.” To our great surprise, he said yes.

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29:01

Barbara Kruger: It’s Not a Retrospective

Museum Confidential ·

2021/12/03

Barbara Kruger’s images and texts have been a consistent source of cultural commentary for decades. Her new exhibition, THINKING OF YOU. I MEAN ME. I MEAN YOU, dominates several spaces in the Art Institute of Chicago. On this episode we chat with the exhibition’s co-curator, Robyn Farrell about the artist, the show, and why it's definitely NOT a retrospective.

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29:35

Van Gogh: The Fanboy

Museum Confidential ·

2021/11/19

Few artists have work as instantly recognizable as Vincent van Gogh. But as original and unique as it seems, the work stands on the shoulders of many others. That’s exactly what Pulitzer Prize-winning author and acclaimed artist Steven Naifeh explores in his latest book, Van Gogh and the Artists He Loved. Furthering the work that began with his landmark 2011 biography Van Gogh: The Life, Naifeh let’s us in on a completely new side of Vincent: the fanboy.

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28:22

Beyond the "Bad Art Friend"

Museum Confidential ·

2021/11/05

We hear the word “viral” all the time. But very few things actually go viral. A recent exception is “Who Is the Bad Art Friend?,” a nearly ten-thousand-word feature in The New York Times by Robert Kolker. The story identifies a dispute between two writers that involves Facebook, a kidney donation, and explores the question, “who owns our personal stories?” Journalist Sarah Cascone joins us to discuss a related legal battle involving Andy Warhol and Prince. It’s complicated.

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37:47

Judy Chicago

Museum Confidential ·

2021/10/22

On the occasion of her first career retrospective, we sit down with legendary artist/feminist Judy Chicago. The exhibition , now on view at San Francisco’s de Young Museum, includes approximately 130 paintings, prints, drawings, and ceramic sculptures, in addition to ephemera, several films, and a documentary. We also talk about smoke sculptures. What’s a smoke sculpture? We’ll get to that.

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28:04

John Lurie

Museum Confidential ·

2021/10/08

Many people have been incorrectly hailed as a “Renaissance Man,” but it perfectly describes Mr. John Lurie. Music, acting, painting, writing, he’s done it all. With a long-gestating memoir just out and a second season of HBO’s “Painting with John” now in production, we recently caught up with Lurie for a wide-ranging chat.

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27:39

The Smithsonian Goes Hip-Hop

Museum Confidential ·

2021/09/17

The long-awaited Smithsonian Anthology of Hip-Hop and Rap just dropped. The set includes 129 tracks on 9 discs and a hefty 300–page book with original design by Cey Adams, acclaimed artist and founding creative director of Def Jam Recordings. From his early subway graffiti days alongside Keith Haring and Jean-Michel Basquiat to designing classic albums for Beastie Boys and LL Cool J, Adams has been at the epicenter of hip-hop culture. He spoke to us from his studio in New York City.

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26:32

The Outsiders?

Museum Confidential ·

2021/09/03

What is an “outsider artist?” Do we even call them that anymore? In recent years the term shifted to “self-taught artist.” Sounds different. But does it mean the same thing? On this episode we chat with Dr. Katherine Jentleson, the Merrie and Dan Boone Curator of Folk and Self-Taught Art at the High Museum in Atlanta. The High recently opened two companion shows focusing on this very topic.

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01:48

Teaser: "It's Confidential"

Museum Confidential ·

2021/09/02

The secret's out! Season 6 of Museum Confidential starts Friday 9/3! Enjoy this early listen to our new season theme song performed by Oklahoma's own Broncho. Written by Broncho's Ryan Lindsey and MC Host Jeff Martin.

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26:11

Greenwood Rising

Museum Confidential ·

2021/06/25

On the season finale of Museum Confidential 2021 we sit down with Philbrook President/CEO Scott Stulen and Phil Armstrong, Project Director for the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre Centennial Commission. Phil has been leading the effort to open Greenwood Rising, a history center located at the gateway to Tulsa's Historic Greenwood District. Greenwood Rising honors the icons of Black Wall Street, memorializes the victims of the massacre, and examines the lessons of the past.

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18:15

The Legacy of Survival

Museum Confidential ·

2021/06/11

Through the use of artificial intelligence and augmented reality, the new exhibit, THE LEGACY OF SURVIVAL, allows anyone to interact with and interview the centenarian survivors of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre. This episode includes remarks from Dr. Tiffany Crutcher (Terence Crutcher Foundation), Greg Robinson (Tulsa Community Remembrance Coalition), and Mother Viola Fletcher (age 107). "The Legacy of Survival" is on view at Gilcrease Museum through June 19, 2021.

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01:12:35

The Kinsey Collection

Museum Confidential ·

2021/05/21

The Kinsey African American Art & History Collection tells the story of African American triumphs and accomplishments from 1595 to present day. From May 22-June 30, the collection will be on view at the Greenwood Cultural Center and the Gathering Place. Two locations. One show. This episode presents a live conversation with Bernard and Khalil Kinsey, Michelle Brown (Greenwood Cultural Center), and author Hannibal B. Johnson. Moderated by Gathering Place Executive Director Tony Moore.

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36:03

Rick Lowe

Museum Confidential ·

2021/05/07

Rick Lowe is one of the two Lead Artists for the Greenwood Art Project alongside William Cordova. Born in Alabama, but a longtime resident of Houston, Lowe's work is widely acclaimed and collected. He was awarded a coveted MacArthur "Genius Grant" in 2014. On this episode we chat with Lowe about the ongoing work of the Greenwood Art Project and the upcoming centennial of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre.

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19:15

The 1921 Black Wall Street Online Directory

Museum Confidential ·

2021/04/23

On this 75th episode of Museum Confidential we chat with Mikeal Vaughn of the Urban Coders Guild. This spring the Urban Coders Guild student cohorts will use their acquired web and mobile application development skills to create a collection of websites and an accompanying mobile app for the businesses lost in the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre. Co-hosted by Greenwood Art Project Program Director Jerica Wortham.

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37:19

A Portrait of Breonna Taylor

Museum Confidential ·

2021/04/02

On this episode we road trip to Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art to chat with Associate Curator, Allison Glenn. Promise, Witness, Remembrance at Louisville, Kentucky's Speed Art Museum, guest-curated by Glenn, reflects on the life of Breonna Taylor, her killing in 2020, and the year of protests that followed. The exhibition is organized around the three words of its title, which emerged from a conversation between Glenn and Tamika Palmer, Breonna's mother. On view April 7-June 6.

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