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Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast

Join Mary O"Carroll as she sits down with General Counsel, Chief Legal Officers, and industry pioneers to tackle the debates reshaping legal services and technology.

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45:09

#27 - Building Community, Reporting to CEOs, and...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/09/27

In this episode of Pearls On, Gloves Off: Community at its Finest. Dive into the Irish Tech General Council, chaired and founded by Sarah. The LinkedIn Guru. Sarah’s insightful pieces on legal operations and tech are a must-read. A Seat at the Table. Why GCs need to report directly to the CEO in a rapidly expanding company. Choosing a CLM Provider. Sarah's playbook for picking a contract lifecycle management provider. Plus, a golden scorecard and RFP template! Burnout and AI. Sarah’s perspective on

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29:16

#26 - Hosting Ironclad Live with La'Resa Young, Sunil...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/09/15

In this special episode of Pearls On, Gloves off: This isn't your regular episode. It's a mashup of three scintillating conversations from the one and only contracts talk show, Ironclad Live, which Mary hosted in Dallas on September 7th. Dive in as Mary engages with legal luminaries from St. Jude Hospital, the Houston Texans, and L'Oréal. Conversation 1: St. Jude Hospital with La'Resa Young Mary and La'Resa highlight the heart and soul of St. Jude: its mission and the importance of fostering a

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38:47

#25 - Empowering Legal Ops Leadership with Alex Kelly...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/08/30

On this episode, Alex Kelly, Co-Founder and COO at Brightflag, joins Mary in the world of podcasting, legal operations and the evolving landscape of legal technology. Alex shares his experience running a podcast called "In-House Outliers," featuring conversations with legal leaders, including general counsels and legal operations professionals. The guests on his podcast mainly come from Brightflag’s customer base and community, with a focus on trailblazers and thought leaders in the legal ops

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44:29

#24 - Digital Transformation in Legal Ops with Aine...

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2023/08/15

On this episode, Aine Lyons, Senior Vice President and Deputy General Counsel at VMware, joins Mary to talk about legal ops, her time at VMware and new technologies. More than a decade ago, Aine was approached by a former GC at VMware about taking on legal ops. She declined because she didn’t know anyone in legal ops and didn’t know anything about it. Times have certainly changed. Aine now sees a lot of movement in the industry surrounding digital transformation, with more companies adding chief

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45:24

#23 - Engagement as a GC Superpower with Lisa Gilley...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/08/03

On this episode, Lisa Gilley, Chief Legal Officer at Higher Logic, joins Mary to talk about, among other things, community and engagement and how the Higher Logic platform allows organizations to give their community a home where they can interact, share ideas, answer questions and stay connected. Engagement with customers is critical for customer retention in any community, and the legal community is no exception. True engagement ignites a community through the sharing of ideas and lighting a fire

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42:15

#22 - Creating Technology for Legal Ops with...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/06/20

On this episode, Katherine Roseveare, General Counsel - Global Functions, Global Operations and Legal Solutions, and Alex Herrity, Director - Global Legal Solutions at Adidas, join Mary to talk about managing technology in a global setting, the creative mindset of their legal team and building out a legal tech department and team from scratch. They talk through their creation of new legal technology for the company, which is based on three pillars: technology, efficiency and engagement. The

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44:43

#21 - The Transforming Legal Ecosystem with Liam...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/06/06

On this episode, Liam Brown, Founder, Chairman and CEO at Elevate, joins Mary to talk about the evolving legal ecosystem, the importance of mentoring, the ways technology continues to help legal department professionals and much more. Liam talks about how his way of thinking about the legal ecosystem has changed over the years. He says the days are gone when business and law were completely separate, and they now work together in many different ways. He makes the argument that having a working

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46:20

#20 - How AI Tools Are Transforming the Legal...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/05/23

On this episode, Cai GoGwilt, Co-Founder and Chief Architect at Ironclad, and Alex Su, Head of Community Development at Ironclad, join Mary to talk about generative AI and its effect on the legal industry. ChatGPT can change how people work in many different industries, and legal is no exception. Cai sees this as a valuable tool for legal professionals, but he says there are a lot of shortcomings with the platform as it is today. One problem people are finding is that ChatGPT can generate very

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32:52

#19 - Transitioning From Pharma to Tech with Terrene...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/05/09

On this episode, Terrene Collins, Director of Legal Operations and Chief of Staff to Chief Legal Officer at Panasonic North America, joins Mary to talk about her career path. Like many legal ops professionals, Terrene is seeing massive rate increases from law firms, and she is pushing back, as difficult as that might be. She will look at rates from prior years, and if she sees a budget-busting significant rate increase, sometimes as much as 20% or 25%, she will call the firm out. Terrene has

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39:18

#18 - The Evolution of Legal Ops with Bob Mignanelli...

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2023/04/04

On this episode, Bob Mignanelli, VP/COO Legal at Haleon, joins Mary to talk about the ever-expanding role of the legal ops team, the ways he and his team contribute to strategic and tactical initiatives, and the importance of asking for an expanded role within the company. Bob sees the legal ops role as a crucial partner for many departments within a company but admits that sometimes leaders in those departments don’t share that vision. Whether it’s tech, finance, procurement, finance or HR, he

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35:09

#17 - A Culture of Experimentation with Michele Lau...

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2023/03/20

On this episode, Michele Lau, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary at GoDaddy, joins Mary to talk about her career path, the evolution of the CLO role, and the company’s embrace of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging. One of the core values at GoDaddy is diversity, something that drew Michele to the company in the first place. The leadership team spends a great deal of time together defining their priorities to make sure they are in alignment with each other on their diversity goals

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46:43

#16 - Humanizing Law Firm Work with Jason Barnwell at...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/03/07

On this episode, Jason Barnwell, General Manager for Digital Transformation of Corporate, External, and Legal Affairs at Microsoft, joins Mary to talk about his title. He describes it as being a professional cheerleader, meaning he is creating the vision for the future of the company. The way Jason sees it, law firms are starting to feel pressure to show value. The problem is value is determined by data and resources are needed to generate that data. They can’t show value without the resources. He

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43:10

#15 - Private Practice vs. In-House with Mel Scott of...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/02/21

On this episode, Mel Scott, Senior Legal Counsel (Global) at Megaport, joins Mary to talk about her career path, which started in private practice and moved quickly to her current in-house role. Mel starts by talking about her podcast: Counsel - A Podcast for In-House Lawyers. One of the reasons Mel started the podcast is to share information and stories that she wished she had access to when she was first starting out in the industry. She spent three years in private practice before taking on an

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44:37

#14 - Reinventing Law Firm Leadership with Scott...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/02/07

On this episode, Scott Westfahl, Professor of Practice and Faculty Director of Executive Education at Harvard Law School, joins Mary to talk about his career journey since graduating from Harvard Law School in 1988, including his time at McKinsey and then at Goodwin Proctor before returning to Harvard where he occupies his current post. Scott talks about the importance of feedback for growth in the legal world which is something he learned from the consulting world. This can be either in the moment

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38:34

#13 - A Surprising Love for Procurement with Lesley...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/01/24

On this episode, Lesley Garafola, Managing Director, Global Head of Procurement and Vendor Management at Barings, joins Mary to talk about her career history and how it led her to fall in love with procurement, much to her surprise. Lesley began her career at Wells Fargo as a paralegal, with the intention of going to law school. Then she started analyzing data and organically growing the operations side of the legal department and fell into legal ops. Now she heads up procurement, which she finds

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39:36

#12 - Legal Life in the NFL with Jill Kelley of the...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2023/01/10

On this episode, Jill Kelley, VP of Legal Affairs at the New York Jets, joins Mary to talk about the many twists and turns in her career which eventually led to her position with the New York Jets. Something that might surprise people is just how small the legal department is at the Jets. It consists of Jill and a paralegal, so it’s a department of two. As Jill says, it is a highly visible and famous organization but, behind the scenes, the legal department is very much a mom-and-pop operation.

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45:16

#11 - Being a Legal Ops Pioneer with Reese Arrowsmith...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2022/12/20

On this episode, Reese Arrowsmith, VP, Head of Legal Operations at Campbell Soup Company joins Mary to talk about his career in legal ops that started before legal ops existed. We talk about his time in early legal ops software, long before we called it legal ops. This included selling matter management software in the late 90s and early 2000s and building a system for The Home Depot in 2003 that integrated with the legal department. We also talk about the importance of collaboration and open

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43:18

#10 - Using Tech for Efficient Legal Ops with Lisa...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2022/11/29

On this episode, Lisa Mango, General Counsel at One Medical, joins Mary to talk about her career journey, through her move to the Bay Area for litigation work, which expanded into an in-house position, to her current role at One Medical today. Now, as a tech-enabled healthcare disruptor, Lisa has to pull on all her experience and knowledge just to deal with the regulations in healthcare that don’t apply to many non-regulated industries. She has done product work, privacy work, transactional law

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39:10

#9 - Airtable’s Ryan Marks Talks Tech Tools for More...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2022/10/26

In this episode, Ryan Marks, Head of Legal at Airtable joins Mary to talk about all ways to create an efficient LegalOps department, the importance of data, and how to avoid the reputation as the “Department of No.” Ryan started his career in litigation, working on a variety of different cases over the course of several years. While doing this, he realized that instead of solving problems by working backward with litigation, he wanted to help clients use legal means to avoid those problems in the

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43:00

#8 - General Counsel Shana Simmons Describes Her...

Pearls On, Gloves Off: The Legal Innovation Podcast ·

2022/09/27

On this episode, Shana Simmons, General Counsel at Everlaw, joins Mary to talk about Shana's career journey. From how Shana got a job as a law firm associate in London to why she left that job and moved to California to work as a contract manager at Google. Shana waxes lyrical about her deep love for Google and what it was like to work at a company that was growing so rapidly. She also shares the tools and skills Shana learned at Google and why she didn't learn them as a lawyer, such as building

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