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The Chad & Cheese Podcast

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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong

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33:24

Tariffs: Small Business Impact with Beth Benike

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/28

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash welcome Beth Benike, CEO of Busy Baby, a baby product company featured on Shark Tank and NPR’s How I Built This. Benike, a former Army veteran and mother, shares the story of Busy Baby, which started with a silicone placemat that suctions to surfaces and tethers toys to keep them off the ground. Now offering eight interchangeable products, the company faces a crisis due to new U.S. tariffs on Chinese imports, with

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47:43

Indeed Drops, Big Tech Flops and the AI War Machine Pops

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2025/04/25

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and J.T. O'Donnell serve up a spicy mix of summer vibes, NFL draft hot takes, and enough industry tea to fill a Chipotle burrito bowl. They’re hyped about the Pro Voice Talent Agency launch, a slick new gig for white-collar pros, and cackle over Chipotle’s bold leap into Mexico—because nothing screams “¡Olé!” like guac south of the border. But hold the salsa, because the real drama unfolds with Indeed and ZipRecruiter’s

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6:20

Shredded: Vizzy, PeopleForce, Indeed, Darwinbox,...

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2025/04/24

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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31:45

It's LinkedIn's World ... with Alex Fourlis

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/22

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash rope in Alex Fourlis, the big cheese (sorry, Joel) at Veritone Hire, for a wild ride through the job market’s circus. Fourlis, with 25+ years of recruitment street cred, brags about Veritone slinging over a million jobs a month worldwide—like a digital paperboy on steroids. The trio dives into the chaos: hiring’s been dropping faster than a bad Tinder date for two years, automation and programmatic advertising are

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57:12

Indeed’s Midlife Crisis

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/18

On this episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, our hosts sling wit and wisdom faster than paintballs at a corporate team-building fiasco, dreaming up a tournament that’d make HR - and Cheesman - cry. Topics are spicy with the soap opera at Deel, where legal drama’s juicier than a reality TV reunion. Plus, they geek out over Indeed’s search boxes making a comeback and some fancy new premium service—because job hunting needed more flair. Switching gears, they clown on Indeed’s latest job-seeker

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6:56

Shredded: Jobandtalent, Rippling, Deel, Linkedin,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/17

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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53:14

Back To the Future with Monster.com Founder Jeff Taylor

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/15

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Jeff Taylor, the nutty professor behind Monster.com, crashes the mic to dish on job boards, entrepreneurial chaos, and why the hiring game’s more bonkers than a squirrel on espresso. He takes us on a nostalgia trip through Monster’s heyday, chuckling at how Indeed swooped in like a job-posting ninja and the LinkedIn deal hit like a plot twist in a bad rom-com—spoiler: LinkedIn won. Taylor’s saga is a hoot: from birthing Monster, to getting a

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58:14

Rippling Raises while Deel Staff Exits

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/11

This week on HR’s most dangerous podcast, things get wild with updates from the espionage-soaked saga between Rippling and Deel — Rippling needs more cash and Deel loses top talent. But wait, there's more: China and Dave Chappelle’s next-level tariff trolling North Korean IT infiltrations at Fortune 500 companies? That’s right — the hackers are already inside the house. 💥 And in the middle of it all? A 23 years-old CEO named Jasper Carmichael Jack, an AI startup called Artisan, and a Shopify

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5:36

Shredded: Workday, Shopify, Dosen.io, Deel, Rippling,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/10

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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47:08

EUROPE: Salesforce Slowly Eating Adecco’s Lunch

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/08

The Chad and Cheese Podcast Does Europe mixes humor with sharp analysis on Europe’s evolving landscape. The episode kicks off with light banter before diving into Tesla’s struggles in Europe, where sales have plummeted—down 41.1% in France and 55.3% in Sweden—due to Elon Musk’s anti-EU stance and Trump’s tariffs. These tariffs also threaten U.S. wineries and tourism, prompting travel warnings from Portugal. Meanwhile, European defense strategies are shifting, with Macron pushing for rearmament,

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66:10

Deel Spy Games Extended Cut

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/04

Hope you like it a little light and a little dark! This week's episode kicks off with some casual fashion talk before taking a sharp turn into the biggest April Fool’s joke that wasn’t—Val Kilmer’s passing. The hosts pay tribute to his legendary roles before diving into politics, where Cory Booker’s marathon filibuster gets mixed reactions: Mo is impressed, Chad shrugs it off like a casual jog, and Joel speculates he’s gunning for the Democratic throne while Gavin Newsom plays nice with

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7:14

Shredded: LinkedIn, Craigslist, Ribbon, All Gravy,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/03

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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41:36

Return to Office is BS with Dr. Jessica Kriegel

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/01

In this riotous episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys drag Dr. Jessica Kriegel, Culture Partners’ Chief Strategy Officer, into the clown car of post-COVID work woes. They tackle the return-to-office (RTO) brouhaha like it’s a bad slapstick routine—is it a heroic charge back to the water cooler, or are we all just pratfalling into 2019 with pants that don’t fit anymore?Dr. Kriegel’s swinging the “adapt or flop” hammer, dubbing RTO a dusty VHS tape in a streaming world. The gang cackles

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46:22

Indeed Tanks & Starbucks Forces Joy

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/28

In the latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash dive into a mix of serious industry shifts and quirky tangents. They unpack Indeed’s traffic decline—down due to a 10% drop in job postings and competition from platforms like LinkedIn—while noting its erratic market moves and a pivot to online courses that’s missing the mark with tech candidates. History lesson alert! The duo traces job search evolution from simple boards to AI-driven tools, spotlighting

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6:49

Shredded: LinkedIn, Jolly, Lumber, Grayscale,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/27

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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13:03

Personal Branding for Recruiters with Orlando Haynes

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/25

Live from RecFest USA, The Chad & Cheese Podcast welcomes Orlando Haynes, North American talent acquisition lead at Mosaic. Orlando breaks down why personal branding is a game-changer for recruiters, offering practical tips on leveraging LinkedIn and navigating job searches after layoffs. He also shares how a strong personal brand can transform employees into powerful company ambassadors, boosting recruitment and client attraction. Catch this episode for smart strategies in today’s job

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51:13

Deel & Rippling Spy Games

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/21

This week, Chad, Joel, and Emi sink their teeth into a juicy HR tech showdown: Rippling’s suing Deel, alleging an espionage plot. Rippling accused Deel of planting Irishman Keith O’Brien in its Dublin office, where he allegedly ran 6,000 Slack searches for trade secrets—busted by a fake “#d-defectors” Slack channel. Things escalated when O’Brien trashed his phone during a court-ordered seizure on March 19. Deel’s firing back, denying it all and pointing to Rippling’s own baggage, like alleged

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7:42

Shredded: Deel, Rippling, ZipRecruiter, iCIMS,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/20

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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37:58

EUROPE: Regulation, Randstad, and a Tech Rumble

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/19

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast Does Europe, hosts Chad Sowash, Joel Cheesman, and the suavely named Lieven Van Nieuwenhuyze plunge headfirst into Europe’s recruitment jungle with all the grace of a tipsy tourist. They kick things off with a chuckle-fest intro—because who doesn’t love a podcast that roasts itself?—before Chad regales us with tales of cultural clashes, fresh from his Champions League pilgrimage (think soccer, not superheroes). The trio then pivots faster than a

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13:03

The Power of Diversity with Paige Elliott

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/17

Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, The Chad & Cheese Podcast welcomes Paige Elliott, Global Employer Brand Manager at Veeam Software. Paige shares why authentic diversity stories are critical to employer branding and how aligning internal culture with external messaging attracts talent. She offers practical tips on using video, written content, and audio to amplify diverse voices and build a sense of belonging. The conversation also delves into the growing scrutiny of DE&I commitments,

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