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Fat Mascara

Fat Mascara has been leading the conversation about beauty and beyond since 2016. Veteran journalist and retail insider Jessica Matlin (of Harper’s Bazaar, W, Moda Operandi) saved you a seat next to her as she talks to the industry’s most exciting names and goes behind the headlines to get the story behind the story. Get down to earth advice, a good laugh, and your new favorite product. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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41:28

Ep. 543: Smoothing Eye Cream, Blush Placement & The...

Fat Mascara ·

2024/08/14

Summer nights in New York City, perfume parties, new beauty commercials, Blake Brown Beauty, plastic surgery complications, a plumping blush (and where to put it), and tweezers for your pets…Jess & Jenn have a lot to discuss.Plus, in a special segment brought to you by Shiseido Ginza Tokyo and Acast Creative, we’ll introduce you to our new favorite eye cream.Big thanks to Shiseido for sponsoring this episode!Episode recap with links:fatmascara.com/blog/ep-543Products mentioned in this episode:

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53:50

The Truth About Beauty Product Development with Maria...

Fat Mascara ·

2024/08/09

We’re getting into the not-so-glamorous details of building a beauty business with Maria Hatzistefanis, the founder & CEO of Rodial and Nip + Fab. We talk about contact manufacturing vs. white labeling, cost of goods, supply-chain issues, how to grow a brand without investors, and why there are so many celebrity lines. Plus: The surprising secret to creating a beauty product that goes viral. Whether you work in the industry, are thinking of starting a brand, or just want to know what happens behind

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53:54

Ep. 542: Whole Body Deodorant, Pretzel Perfume & The...

Fat Mascara ·

2024/08/07

A listener called in with questions about the new whole-body deodorants, and Jenn & Garrett are here to help. Plus, we’re discussing at-home sleep apnea testing; why more men are using prestige skincare; some highlights from Cosmoprof (including a waterless shampoo and conditioner); Auntie Anne’s new perfume; and—in Science Corner!—a study explaining why explosive visuals and language are so effective in fragrance advertisements.Episode recap with links:fatmascara.com/blog/ep-542Products mentioned

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52:08

Organizing & Cleaning Beauty Products with Vanesa Amaro

Fat Mascara ·

2024/08/02

#cleantok star Vanesa Amaro explains exactly how to organize your beauty products and keep them clean. What’s the best way to remove lint and dust from a hairbrush? How do you get the inside of your makeup bag clean? Which cleaning products should you use if you’re sensitive to fragrance? Vanesa—a pro housekeeper and the Queen of Clean on TikTok—has all the answers. Plus, she shares her hair-growth secret, why her manicure doesn’t chip, and the technique she uses for makeup that lasts 18 hours. This

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40:55

Ep. 541: Botox and Empathy, Makeup Etiquette & The...

Fat Mascara ·

2024/07/31

Jess & Jenn discuss how to respond when people comment on your appearance. Plus: the “underconsumption” trend; a growing body of research that shows neurotoxin injections (Botox, Dysport, Xeomin, etc.) may limit your ability to empathize; beauty marketers using Reddit to sell their products; Borghese spa mud; and the science of lip-softening balms (like the new one from Eadem).Episode recap with links:fatmascara.com/blog/ep-541Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/702318Sponsor

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46:42

The History of Hairstyling with Rachael Gibson

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2024/07/26

Learn how the U.S. military was involved in the development of hairspray, why redheads are so prevalent in Pre-Raphaelitepaintings, and the surprising way women in Renaissance Italy used to dye their hair in this fascinating interview with hair historian Rachael Gibson. We also talk about hair as a symbol of resistance, the evolution of the modern salon business, how technological advancements inspire new looks, and why hair trends often come back around.Episode recap with

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47:53

Ep. 540: How Exercise Affects Botox, Fragrance...

Fat Mascara ·

2024/07/24

It’s a very sporty episode with Jenn & Julee: We’re talking about Olympian Suni Lee’s nails, how exercise affects the longevity of neurotoxin injections, the best sports bra for runners (Julee knows— she used to be a track star!), and more. Plus: Elizabeth Banks’s new movie, Skincare, and its real life inspiration; a detailed explanation of fragrance concentrations; beauty products that are better together; and the only hair gel that will keep your edges smooth and your style slicked-back when it's

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58:35

We’re Curious About Jonathan Van Ness…

Fat Mascara ·

2024/07/19

…and vice versa. In this collaborative episode, Jess & Jenn get vulnerable with Jonathan Van Ness, the Queer Eye star, host of the podcasts Getting Curious and Pretty Curious, and founder of JVN Hair. We swap beauty stories and discuss what first drew us to the industry. Plus, Jonathan opens up his struggles with social media and the bankruptcy of his brand’s parent company, and we chat about the beauty trend cycle, Y2K hair looks, what makes beauty products so nostalgic—and mukbangs, Fortnite, and

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43:21

Ep. 539: Tips for Beauty Entrepreneurs, the Miss AI...

Fat Mascara ·

2024/07/17

First, can we talk about the Devil Wears Prada sequel? After that, Jenn & Jess discuss strawberry perfumes; share tips for entrepreneurs from the Estée Lauder Companies' New Incubation Ventures Symposium; and chat about the Miss AI beauty pageant, Troye Sivan's gig as the makeup ambassador for Rabanne, heavy metals in tampons, and why the young people in old television shows look so…not young. Then, let’s Raise A Wand to Makeup By Mario’s universally flattering blush extensions and the new Sarah

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How Technology Is Changing Beauty Culture with Dr....

Fat Mascara ·

2024/07/12

Futurist, tech CEO, and makeup artist Alex Box, DDes, is working to make sure that as technology continues to evolve, our humanity and creativity isn’t lost. If you feel like social media, AI, and the metaverse are negatively affecting beauty standards, our self-esteem, and artist creativity, Alex offers an alternative: What if we all work together to change the systems? In this interview, she discusses “digital dignity,” how virtual spaces can inspire real-world connections, how to avoid echo

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41:44

Best of FM: Hairstylist Sally Hershberger

Fat Mascara ·

2024/07/10

In this confessional and juicy interview, hairstylist Sally Hershberger takes us back to SoCal in the late 1970s, and shares how she parlayed her rock-star-adjacent life into a full-on creative career, working in salons and then on set as one of the fashion world’s favorite hairstylists. She talks about giving Meg Ryan her famous shag haircut, creating products for John Frieda, launching several of her own hair lines, and how much the salon industry has changed in the last decade. Plus, did you know

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32:05

Making Perfume Sexy Again with Kilian Hennessy

Fat Mascara ·

2024/07/05

Kilian Hennessy, founder of Kilian Paris, talks about his famous last name, the history and semantics of fragrance, and the "potential consequences of making perfumed panties," in this interview, which originally aired in 2019. Plus, he explains why tuberose is better than Cheetos and what it’s like to be part of a big beauty conglomerate like Estée Lauder Companies.Products mentioned in this episode:shopmy.us/collections/644723Episode recap with links:fatmascara.com/blog/kilian-hennessySponsor

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Ep. 538: Chat GPT’s Skincare Advice, Scented Emojis &...

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2024/07/03

Jenn and Garrett discuss their recent travels, including Garrett's spa experience at a Dubai wellness hotel. Then they ask Chat GPT for skincare advice in real time (things do not go well). Plus: Trends from the new AmericanSociety ofPlasticSurgeons survey; iRoma’s technology that could make movies (and emojis!) smellable in the near future; an in-shower facial; a sunscreen that won’t sting kids’ eyes; and a body gel that will help you cool off.Products mentioned in this

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47:55

The Truth About Lash Serums, Blue Light & Eye Health...

Fat Mascara ·

2024/06/28

Is blue light bad for your eyes—or your skin? Which lash-growth serums work without harming your eyes? Is it okay to tightline? How do redness-relieving eye drops work, and can you get addicted to them? What’s the best way to remove eye makeup? Ophthalmologist Nicky Shah, MD, cofounder of You & Eye by Dr. Nicky, is going to answer all those questions and talk about lash extensions, permanent makeup, her favorite mascara, and more in this fun-fact-filled interview, which originally aired in

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40:07

Ep. 537: Makeup Flankers, Hyperosmia & The Week’s...

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2024/06/26

Jess & Jenn share highlights from two beauty conferences, and then discuss the copywriting over at Vacation Inc.; the challenges of building a lasting fragrance brand; changes at Space NK; the beauty brands with Olympics tie-ins; new flanker products for Clinique Black Honey; the woman with hyperosmia (a super-sensitive olfactive ability) who can smell Parkinson’s disease; and more. Plus, let’s raise a wand to a twisted gourmand perfume and the excellent, long-lasting blushes from Haus Labs.Products

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54:36

What It’s Really Like to Start a Beauty Brand, with...

Fat Mascara ·

2024/06/21

Ami Colé founder & CEO Diarrha N'Diaye-Mbaye went from social media manager (Temptu, L’Oréal) to product developer (Glossier) to starting a beauty brand for melanin-rich skin—and she’s refreshingly honest about what it took to get where she is. We discuss how her personal story is part of (but not the same thing as!) her brand; what it’s like to work with investors; the challenges BIPOC-owned beauty brands are facing; and how much fun it is for her to create gorgeous products that people

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39:26

Ep. 536: Everything Showers, the Lip-Nip Connection &...

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2024/06/19

Please welcome one more contributor to the Fat Mascara family: Julee Wilson is back and will be joining us more regularly! This week, she and Jenn discuss their shared dislike of rain shower heads; how to choose lip liner based on your nipple color (thanks, Glossier); the best products in the Fenty hair line; Beautyfor, a new organization helping to tackle the industry’s waste problem; sebaceous filaments; sexy perfumes for summer; and the disturbing truth about hair relaxers.Products mentioned in

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55:49

Everything to Know About Permanent Makeup with...

Fat Mascara ·

2024/06/14

Lip blushing, lip neutralization, restorative lip color, powder brows, microblading, how to remove permanent makeup—we’re going to learn about all of it with Christine Hwang (@newfacebychristine), a permanent makeup artist in New York City. She shares how to find a PMUA you can trust, how licensing works, the difference between regular tattoos and cosmetic tattoos, and so much more. If you’re even *thinking* about permanent or semi-permanent makeup, listen to this podcast first!Products mentioned in

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48:54

Ep. 535: Perfume Soirées, Sea Buckthorn Oil & The...

Fat Mascara ·

2024/06/12

Jess shares the gossip from two hot fragrance events in New York City. Then, we discuss Epcot’s Norwegian perfumer in residence; Fenty Hair; Sarah Creal’s new line; Olaplex skincare (is it happening?); Tweezerman tools for pet owners; powdered shampoo; buttercup-yellow nail polish; and the delightful Bask sunscreen that will keep you protected even if you’re on a boat. Plus, in Science Corner: The surprising benefits of taking sea buckthorn oil supplements.Products mentioned in this episode:

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44:33

Brooke Shields on Image, Aging, and Hair

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2024/06/07

Actress, author, and entrepreneur Brooke Shields talks about an inherent tension in her life: She knows beauty is power and yet she struggles with that very idea. In this podcast exclusive, she discusses growing up on camera, how she wants her daughters to approach social media, our culture’s obsession with image and beauty—and Commence, her new hair line for women over 40. Yes, she’s a celebrity launching a beauty brand (and she knows exactly how that sounds), but the story behind Commence is one

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