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The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby

World Cup-winning Red Roses and best friends Emily Scarratt and Natasha Hunt host the award winning The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby, with their good friend, South African broadcaster, Elma Smit. Often joined by current Red Rose Meg Jones, the team brings a unique mix of insight, humour, and honesty to the world of women’s rugby. Their mission? To grow the game and help reshape how women and girls see themselves — through untold stories, raw conversations, and unmatched access across clubs, players,

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56:34

S4: A Red Rose, A Black Fern & the Chairperson of the...

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/11/02

England take on New Zealand in Aotearoa this weekend, in a replay of last years’ final. So, Elma & Scaz call up a woman who knows a thing or two about this match up… the most capped Black Fern of all time & three time world cup winner, Kendra Cocksedge. The trio look ahead to the clash, discuss the legacy of last year’s tournament and congratulate Scotland & Ireland on their WXV 2 & 3 wins… well, when they manage to steer Elma away from her non-stop Springbok celebrations…

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S4: WXV3: Ireland on fire in Dubai

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/10/25

Ireland’s new co-captains Sam Monaghan & Edel McMahon (AKA Tricky) join Scaz & Elma to talk all things WXV3 and life in Dubai. They’ve been using paddling pools & ice vests to stay cool, but nothing could protect them from Mo’s long range burns about the heat, all the way from New Zealand. Ireland’s rebuild, their decider against Spain, the story of Tricky’s nickname are all on the menu, as well as France’s thrilling one point win AND our big live show news we’ve been teasing you with! For tickets

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42:17

S4: Babalwa Latsha: Siya Kolisi’s Captaining Counterpart

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/10/19

South Africa’s captain Babalwa Latsha, joins Elma & Scaz to debrief on the Springboks & the Women Boks action over the weekend. Elma couldn’t be more excited to have B on the show - they’re firm friends & now that Babalwa has moved from Cape Town to Guildford to play for Quins, they’ve been braaing together over the summer. The girls get into the captains' photo shoot which had us all laughing & look ahead to this weekend’s WXV fixtures and World Cup semi finals.

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40:07

S4: Kicking Off & Kicking On: The girls are back for...

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/10/11

WXV is here… Mo’s off New Zealand with the Red Roses, Elma’s in the All Blacks camp en France, and Scaz reveals she’s had a big old operation on her neck which will hopefully get her back on the pitch before too long! If that wasn’t already enough - they look ahead to the exciting new world of WXV, which kicks off this weekend. Expect more MONUMENTAS Mo-isms, more Elma banging on about the postal service and more Scaz being Scaz, this time (apparently) with jazz hands. Make sure you’re following

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S3 Ep20: Queensholm & The Big Prem Final After Party

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/06/26

The Allianz Premier 15s trophy has a new name on it… the Queens brought it home. Gloucester-Hartpury & our Mo are champions of England. While she was busy crowd surfing in the changing rooms, Elma & Scaz hot footed it across the road to the pub garden of Teague’s Bar for a live show for the ages! Katy Daley-McLean joined them to discuss the game & relive the day. And then… just when all hope was lost, a wild Mo Hunt appeared, still in full kit (including her boots) alongside G-H’s Maud Muir & Sam

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S3 Ep19: Chardonnay, Katy Daley-McLean & The Prem 15s...

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/06/19

Our Mo’s made it all the way to the final of the Premier 15s with her Gloucester-Hartpury side, so as a treat, Katy Daley-McLean’s come all the way down from Manchester to join her besties, to review two spectacular semis & look ahead to the big final at Kingsholm. They reminisce about the glory years, talk about Katy’s retirement and her big shiny job at Sale Sharks… And yet the show is stolen by Scaz’s favourite pet when the trio lived together during their days on the 7s circuit; Chardonnay, the

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S3 Ep18: Jodie Ounsley AKA Fury The Gladiator

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/06/07

Jodie Ounsley stopped by for a natter with the girls just before her first day as ‘Fury’ in the BBC’s remake of the classic 90s hit television show, Gladiators! Elma, Scaz & Mo can’t contain their excitement to hear all about the Exeter Chiefs and England 7s winger’s shift from rugby girl to showbiz character; something she’s not found to be the easiest fit. As the first ever profoundly deaf gladiator & England rugby international, there’s very little that’s run of the mill about Jodie’s life. They

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61:44

S3 Ep17: The Pineapple, The Rig, The Legend: Vicky...

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/06/01

Scaz & Mo are in charge this week - without Elma. So they’ve invited their old friend, Vicky Fleetwood over to chat about her very recent retirement. Scaz & Fleeto first started playing together aged 15, when Vicky joined Leicester Forest (East). The pair travelled to uni together and then to Lichfield… so there’s glory days both on and off the pitch to relive, on top of stories from World Cups and Commonwealth Games. It’s safe to say the wheels are firmly off from the start with a studio decked out

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S3 Ep16: Behind The Scenes with Scaz at...

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/05/17

It’s round two of Scaz Vs Mo this week, as Loughborough Lightning hosted Gloucester-Hartpury at their new home of Franklins Gardens. Join tour guide Scaz for this Loughborough special, starting with a behind the scenes look at the facilities. From the brand new indoor pitch to the pregame changing room setup, it’s clear the blossoming partnership with Northampton Saints is set to be a good’un. A victorious Mo joins the duo post-game, with a Scottish line up of Rachel Malcolm & Helen Nelson for a

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S3 Ep15: Record Breaking Roses & The Path to 2025...

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/05/03

Recovered from a Super Saturday for the ages, a croaky Scaz & Elma relive one of the greatest days in the history of the Red Roses. They take you behind the scenes & talk glitter moustaches, crowd surfs and party hats from a day that was bookended by hilarity at The Cabbage Patch. After a day like that & with a home World Cup on the horizon, the question we’re all asking is how do we keep this momentum alive… & lucky for us the RFU’s COO & CFO - & former Red Roses captain - Sue Day, is on hand to

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S3 Ep14: Six Nations Super Saturday: Le Crunch Avec...

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/04/27

The girls are back in the studio this week, joined by French legend, Lenaig Corson to look ahead to the weekend’s Six Nations Grand Slam decider, between the Red Roses & France in front of a record breaking crowd. Scaz & Elma can't contain their excitement at seeing their Mo back in white again... but it's not all plain sailing, they also fall our about Scaz's poor social media game. A pair of jubilant Scots, Rachel Malcolm & Helen Nelson, also join the pod - fresh from their triumph over Italy

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80:33

S3 Ep13: The Women In Green: Ireland & South Africa...

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/04/19

With the Red Roses heading to the Emerald Isle this weekend and the storm clouds gathering over Irish rugby, this week Scaz & Elma are joined by a woman who knows a thing or two about dealing with the rain. Ireland’s most capped women’s player, Lynne Cantwell, gives the girls her perspective on the situation from her unique viewpoint, as Women’s High Performance Manager at the South African Rugby Union - where a parallel story has unfolded; the boys in green and the Springboks have both had great

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S3 Ep12: Bonnie Scotland’s Sarah Bonar

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/04/12

Scotland, Quins & RAF lock, Sarah Bonar joins Scaz & Elma in the studio this week. She’s been kept out of the Six Nations thus far by a broken collar bone (AKA Colly B, who you’ll get to know throughout the episode) - but she still gives us the inside scoop from Scotland’s clashes with England & Wales. Spartans & Scottish rugby feature heavily, not to mention stories from Bonar’s time as a GB rower, her day job in the RAF, her very important business cards and the school assembly bangers that still

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79:34

S3 Ep11: The Dragons' Den: Inside Wales Camp

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/04/05

This week Elma’s said ‘toodlepip’ to Scaz & Mo, as she’s crossed the Severn Bridge to the beating heart of Welsh Rugby, somewhere two Red Roses would not be welcomed with open arms - especially not ahead of a Wales England match up in the Six Nations… Head Coach Ioan Cunningham shows Elma around the Elite Training Centre at The Vale Resort, where both Welsh international sides call home. She gets a behind the scenes look at all the state of the art facilities including the cryo chamber, the judo

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S3 Ep10: Sarah Hunter: Red Rose #137 Over & Out

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/03/29

She may not have lifted the World Cup last year, but her words after the final (and everything she’s given the game before and since) have lifted a nation, so join Scaz, Mo & Elma to say ‘toodle-pip’ & ‘cheerio’ to the woman of the moment; Sarah Hunter. She made it down from her ‘Leaving Do’ in Newcastle (AKA England Vs Scotland) to have a chin wag with two of her oldest pals. They re-live all the big, bad, and brilliant moments, from the first cap to the last dance of a captain who’s led the Red

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79:38

S3 Ep9: The Big Six Nations Preview with Nick Heath

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/03/23

Come on down to the Six Nations preview show… whether you’re a seasoned nause or you’re taking the plunge for the first time, this episode is for you. Elma and Scaz are joined in the studio by commentator Nick Heath - who’s voice you should recognise from our opening credits. They run through the opportunities, the ones to watch and all the scoops from each of the six camps ahead of the first round. The trio give their two pence on the men’s Six Nations, too and look ahead to the World Cup in the

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73:19

S3 Ep8: Abbie Ward: ‘Ball in one hand, baby in the...

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/03/16

The Cabbage Patch is a home from home for the girls, so this week Scaz & Elma are joined by England and Bristol Bears Lock Abbie Ward in Twickenham's famous rugby pub. They discuss all things pregnancy and motherhood with the Red Rose who will be the first player in the professional age to have a baby and make use of the RFU’s brand new maternity policy. Abbie shares the details of her ambitious plans to be back on the pitch next autumn and the white lies and acting skills she had to employ at

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69:47

S3 Ep7: Cookin’ up a Women’s Lions Tour with Claire...

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/03/02

It’s on the cards!!!! A two-year feasibility study has confirmed that the first female British and Irish Lions tour is able to go ahead… We don’t know what it looks like yet, but Elma, Scaz, Mo and legendary Irish back row, Claire Molloy take a run up at what they’d like to see. Elma (the smuggler) regales the team with tales of her time embedded with the Springboks during the last Lions tour and Claire gives the girls an insight into her job as an A&E doctor with descriptions of some of the

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S3 Ep6: In The Middle with Hollie Davidson

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/02/16

It’s been a huge year on the park for Scottish referee Hollie Davidson, who’s broken glass ceiling after glass ceiling & refereed some of the biggest games in both 7s and 15s - including last years World Cup Final in Aotearoa. She joins the girls to relive the sinking feeling at seeing THAT tackle on the big screen, and they learn about all about Helga, her favourite fan. Mo’s mind is blown by the art of when NOT to blow your whistle, and Hollie also lets us in on what Scaz & Mo are like to referee

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S3 Ep5: Rachael Burford in the House

The Good, The Scaz & The Rugby ·

2023/02/02

Mo, Elma & Scaz are joined by their pal and legendary Red Rose, Rachael Burford, to relive some of the best times they’ve spent together on & off the pitch, & celebrate the game changing work she's doing across the world of rugby. Rachael shares that this season will probably be her last on the pitch & that her recent hamstring injury might have even put paid to that. It’s also the morning after the night before, & Mo’s struggling with a terrible hangover after spending the evening at a dinner to

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