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There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com

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NBL UPDATE: How We Conference! Volume 2

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2024/07/10

NBL UPDATE: How We Conference! Volume 2 This year we wanted to give our listeners more time to plan for their conference season, so this one is coming at you earlier in the year. We have also included a representative from the Western Arts Alliance, Heartland Performing Arts, Inc. (Midwest Arts Xpo), and the Association of Performing Arts Professionals, to tell you why you should attend conferences and what you can look forward to. PLEASE NOTE: While the team will be at MAX, the booth number

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37:30

NBL Rewind: Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be...

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2024/07/03

NBL Rewind: Michael Mushalla: Be Curious. Don’t Be Afraid. Bryan takes us back to his and Kevin’s conversation with Michael Mushalla. Bryan reflects on how the summit created by Michael brought the hosts together, and how it encouraged him to show his true self and to think differently. This week's episode is another special one! It highlights Michael Mushalla who introduced our hosts, and helped us all think differently about what comes next. Michael Mushalla is the Owner and Founder of Double M

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NBL Rewind: Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a...

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2024/06/26

NBL Rewind: Sara Morgulis: Accessibility Isn’t a ChecklistDanielle takes us back to Sara Morgulis this week, because this is an episode she revisits to remind herself to keep going in this work, and because Sara gives tangible ways to normalize access, embed trauma-informed training, and lead with respect. Danielle and Katie take time this week to talk with Sara Morgulis about theatre for young audiences. Sara talks about what TYA/USA does, the organization’s growth, her clear passion for

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51:52

NBL Rewind: Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success

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2024/06/19

NBL Rewind: Dominic Moore-Dunson: Defining Success This week, Josh takes us back to Danielle’s interview with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Josh chose this episode because it brought to light problematic areas in our industry. On this episode, our hosts talk about safety leading into Danielle’s engaging conversation with Dominic Moore-Dunson. Dominic shares his creative process, including his perspective on how an audience perceives his projects after creation, and how becoming a parent changed the

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59:52

NBL Rewind: Bill Blagg: An Overnight Success

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2024/06/12

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46:54

NBL Rewind: Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition

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2024/06/05

NBL Rewind: Sarah McCarthy: Trust Your Intuition On this week's NBL Rewind, host Katie Miller shares her conversation with Sarah McCarthy. Katie chose this conversation because it inspired her and asks you to listen and reflect on Sarah’s advice of trusting your intuition, taking chances, and following what feels right to you. On this episode, Katie sits down with Sarah McCarthy to talk about theatre for young audiences, new projects, and juggling life with a full workload. Our hosts

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Ep. 85 Pod Squad: Time for Mental Health

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2024/05/29

Ep. 85 Pod Squad: Time for Mental Health This week’s episode is short, but very honest. The Pod Squad is opening up about their mental health and taking some time off. Don’t worry though! We are re-releasing some episodes that made us laugh and made us think. You can listen to those, or get caught up on our extensive back catalogue. Take care friends! We will be back with new episodes on mid-July. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions

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Ep. 84 Jorge Casco: From Handcuffs to Cufflinks

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2024/05/21

Ep. 84 Jorge Casco: From Handcuffs to Cufflinks This week Kevin plays a game of Gen-Z Slang with his fellow hosts before he shares his in-depth conversation with Jorge Casco. Jorge shares his turbulent start in the arts, how the arts can save lives, the power of an individual, and reminds us that we are all loved. Jorge Casco is the Executive Director of FLY Dance Company (https://www.flydancecompany.com/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions -

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Ep. 83 Lauren Jelencovich: Stay Present and Be Yourself

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2024/05/15

Ep. 83 Lauren Jelencovich: Stay Present and Be Yourself Bryan sits down with Lauren Jelencovich to talk about her impressive career. Lauren shares her journey from winning Star Search to attending the Manhattan School of Music to touring with Yanni as his featured vocalist for 13 years. Our hosts share phone calls that changed their lives and the importance of being present and saying yes. Lauren Jelencovich (https://www.laurenjelencovich.com/) is a touring classical crossover artist. Follow

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Ep. 82 David Alpert: Find the Solution

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2024/05/08

Ep. 82 David Alpert: Find the Solution Katie sits down with a former fellow Michigander, David Alpert, to talk all things Broadway. David shares his journey from wanting to be a theatre director in 5th grade to directing on Broadway. Katie and David talk about the impact of their local theatre scene growing up, the different roles on a Broadway directing team, and the importance of “showing up.” David Alpert is a New York City-based theatre director, adjunct faculty at NYU, and the creator and

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Ep. 81 Mark Morris and Nancy Umanoff: Dance. Music....

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2024/05/01

Ep. 81 Mark Morris and Nancy Umanoff: Dance. Music. Community. Our hosts spend this week thinking about what they thought they would be when they grew up. Josh and Kevin share their conversation with Mark Morris, who the New York Times called, “the most successful and influential choreographer alive, and indisputably the most musical” and Nancy Umanoff, the masterful executive director whose work creates the space for Mark Morris and the Mark Morris Dance Group to create art. They share their

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46:42

Ep. 80 Merrill Miller: Be a Sponge

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2024/04/24

Ep. 80 Merrill Miller: Be a Sponge This week we start with video games that taught us something before Bryan and Josh sit down with fellow presenter, Merrill Miller. Merrill shares his journey from booking his high school band gigs to booking bands at the North Shore Center. He talks about the challenges of booking a venue so close to Chicago, what a performing arts center can be, the importance of hospitality for performers, and a little about his hobby outside of the industry. Merrill

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Ep. 79 Jeeyoon Kim: A Degree Doesn’t Guarantee Anything

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2024/04/17

Ep. 79 Jeeyoon Kim: A Degree Doesn’t Guarantee Anything Our hosts start this week’s episode talking about changing traditions. Bryan shares his conversation with award-winning performer, Jeeyoon Kim. Jeeyoon shares how and why she is challenging the traditions of classical music, her unique start in Korea with playing the piano, and the challenges of being a classical music performer after university. Jeeyoon Kim is a classical pianist, educator, author

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Ep. 78 Sarah Saltwick: Bring Your Whole Self

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2024/04/10

Ep. 78 Sarah Saltwick: Bring Your Whole SelfThis week, Danielle and Katie share their conversation with the powerhouse that is Sarah Saltwick. They dig into taking ownership of Holden & Arts, managing the agency with three leaders, and what running an agency entails. Sarah also shares how she got started in the industry, how she continues to get involved and learn more, and attempting to balance business, life, and her artistic endeavors. Our hosts this week take a look back in their

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Ep. 77 John Ernesto: Take Care of the Artist, Take...

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2024/04/03

Ep. 77 John Ernesto: Take Care of the Artist, Take Care of the FansTo start this episode our hosts discuss the artist they presented that created that surreal moment of “I can’t believe this is happening”. Bryan and John discuss the origin of the Berks Jazz Fest and its subsequent development. His theory on taking care of the artist and the fans and the rest will take care of itself. We learn about how the Jazz Fest developed through community partnerships and everyone being on board. John

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Ep. 76 Jenny Sirota and Didi Perez: Be Confident,...

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2024/03/27

Ep. 76 Jenny Sirota and Didi Perez: Be Confident, Stay Educated, and Stay FlexibleOur hosts share their choices for “live on stage” adaptations before Josh shares his conversation with Jenny and Didi. They share their incredible journey in starting RoadCo in collaboration with Sony Music Entertainment. This honest conversation shares the ins and outs of this relationship, what it takes to put a show on the road, and how relationships with presenters help influence new touring shows. Didi Perez

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Ep. 75 Joshua Heim: Embed Art in Your Community

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2024/03/20

Ep. 75 Joshua Heim: Embed Art in Your CommunityThis week Katie and Kevin sit down with Joshua Heim to talk equity, Western Arts Alliance, the state of the arts and more. Josh shares his journey in the arts, Hula as a lifestyle, working with and for constituents, and the role of the arts in communities. Our hosts this week share awkward meetings and interesting meeting locations. Joshua Heim is the Executive Director of Western Arts Alliance (https://www.westarts.org/) Follow us on social media

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Ep. 74 Ally Haynes-Hamblin: Trust Yourself and Go...

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2024/03/13

Ep. 74 Ally Haynes-Hamblin: Trust Yourself and Go with the FlowOur hosts share just some of the many influential women in their lives. Danielle sits down with another influential woman in our lives, Ally Haynes-Hamblin. Ally shares her lineage in the arts, the challenging role of being a "fixer,” her leadership style and philosophy, and how to get involved in a community. Ally Haynes-Hamblin is the Executive Director of the Charles W. Eisemann Center for Performing Arts in Richardson, Texas

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Ep. 73 Jim Lenz: Transparency Leads to Trust

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2024/03/06

Ep. 73 Jim Lenz: Transparency Leads to TrustOur hosts share their dreams on what they would do with an abandoned mall before our guest Jim Lenz joins Josh for a conversation. Jim shares his love for live music, booking artists into venues in high school, importance of artists taking control of their marketing, and changes in PAC rock shows over the years. Jim Lenz is with TKO Booking Agency (https://tkoco.com/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions -

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Ep. 72 David Rowell: Inspiring the Next Generation

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2024/02/28

Ep. 72 David Rowell: Inspiring the Next GenerationOur hosts talk about times they said, “never again,” and then totally did again. This week Bryan sits down with David Rowell, an amazing educator and mentor in the industry. David shares his introduction to the arts, clown ministry, his incredible career, opening performance venues, and teaching the future of the industry. He is joined by two of his students, Ashanique Riche and Hannah Pogemiller, who share their unique view of the industry and an

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