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Valley of Depth

Payload | Ignition | Tectonic

Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest

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00:48:59

Refueling the Space Economy, with Daniel Faber (Orbit...

Valley of Depth ·

2024/01/09

In this episode, Daniel Faber, CEO of Orbit Fab, a US-based company that is pioneering in-space refueling infrastructure, shares his journey from Tasmania to becoming a leader in the space economy's refueling efforts. Additionally, we delve into:Orbit Fab’s mission and servicesThe need for refueling capabilitiesThe economics of fuel depotsViability of asteroid miningAnd much more…• Chapters •00:00 - Intro00:35 - Gas stations in space01:44 - Daniel's background05:49 - Origins of Orbit Fab10:46 -

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01:05:38

2023 Year in Review, with Payload's Editorial Team

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2023/12/19

In the final Pathfinder episode of the year, Mo brings Payload’s editorial staff into the hot seat(s) to discuss the most significant stories of 2023 and share predictions for 2024!In addition to each team member’s trajectory to Payload, we discuss:The shortage in launch supplyStarship and the mainstream media’s reactionThe Chandrayaan-3 lunar landing (and other Moon-related news)The state of space companies in public marketsOrbital debris and the evolution of policyThe evolution of DoD vs NASA

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00:45:52

Futureforming the World, with Shahin Farshchi (Lux...

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2023/12/12

Every quarter, Lux Capital, a leading venture capital firm known for investing in hard science and deep tech startups, publishes their investor letter offering a unique opportunity to gain insight into the firm's investment thesis and strategy. The firm has been an early supporter of the space industry with early bets in companies like Relativity Space, Epsilon3, Impulse Space, Astranis, Kymeta, Varda, Planet, and Hadrian.This week’s Pathfinder features a deep dive on the firm’s latest Q3 letter

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00:45:33

Agile Systems Engineering, with Pari Singh (Flow...

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2023/12/05

Modern engineering teams need to look radically different, at least according to Pari Singh, Founder and CEO of Flow Engineering. Flow, a London and LA-based startup, aims to overhaul traditional engineering approaches with its collaboration platform, specifically tailored for 'new age' hardware teams.Flow provides a collaborative platform for hardware and software teams, streamlining requirements management, integrating with key design tools, and offering advanced visualization for efficient design

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00:49:03

Robot Craftsmen, with Ed Mehr (Machina Labs)

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2023/11/21

The US manufacturing industry needs a major overhaul and companies like Machina Labs are helping drive that change. Today’s Pathfinder episode features Ed Mehr, cofounder and CEO of Machina Labs, a startup integrating the latest advancements in robotics and AI to construct next-generation factories. Mehr's prior experience at Relativity includes overseeing the development of Stargate, which was the world’s largest 3D printer at the time.Machina is focused on creating flexible manufacturing systems,

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00:51:23

Crew and Cargo Transport, with Hélène Huby (The...

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2023/11/14

Since stints at Airbus and ArianeGroup, Hélène Huby has shifted her focus to developing the Nyx spacecraft, Europe’s first privately funded cargo and crew capsule - a significant step for ESA’s future in the global space race. As of now, Europe does not have its own operational cargo or crew capsule and has relied on the capabilities of the US and Russia.Huby has already made significant progress securing the largest Series A financing for a European space startup - a €40.5 million round in February

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01:21:13

Evolution of Terran R, with Tim Ellis (Relativity Space)

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2023/11/07

Relativity Space CEO Tim Ellis knows what went wrong during Terran 1’s first flight—and he shared with Payload why he is confident the same thing won’t happen to the startup’s Terran R rocket.What’s next: After the March flight, Relativity announced that it was scrapping Terran 1 development to focus solely on its larger Terran R vehicle.Ellis emphasized that this shift is not merely about scaling size, but also better aligning with market demands ($1.8B Terran R pipeline) and the broader vision of

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00:52:11

The Road to Flight 2, with Dan Piemont (ABL Space)

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2023/10/31

ABL Space is heading back to the pad after a power failure prevented its maiden launch attempt from reaching orbit last January. The company, known for its innovative approach to ground infrastructure by containerizing its launch system, aims to launch its RS1 rocket by the year's end.This week's Pathfinder podcast features Dan Piemont, the cofounder, President, and CFO of the LA-based launch startup. Mo and Dan delve into the lessons learned from the company's initial launch attempt and the

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00:53:37

Today's Industry Trends, with Caleb Henry (Quilty Space)

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2023/10/24

Back in the Pathfinder hot seat is Caleb Henry, Director of Research at Quilty Space. We were privileged to have Caleb join us over a year ago on one of the initial Pathfinder episodes, where he shed light on industry consolidation and the T-Mobile partnership with SpaceX. Today, he rejoins us to delve into a variety of pertinent topics, including: SpaceX vs everyone elseRemote sensing business modelsLEO vs GEO broadband operatorsCapacity shortages across operatorsEffective telecom regulation And

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00:52:58

The Venture Studio, with Leon Alkalai (Mandala Space...

Valley of Depth ·

2023/10/19

Today’s Pathfinder episode features Leon Alkalai, former Technical Fellow of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) and now the founder of Mandala Space Ventures. Having spent 32 years at JPL, we dive into his leadership roles for the GRAIL mission in 2007, which mapped the Moon's gravitational field and the Insight Lander in 2012, a first of its kind mission aimed at exploring Mars' deep interior. Leon now runs Mandala, a combination of space venture studio meets venture fund. In addition to all

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00:53:11

Into a Riot, with Will Coffield (Riot Ventures)

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2023/10/10

Today’s Pathfinder episode features Will Coffield, cofounder and General Partner of Riot Ventures. Riot has a proclivity for investing in early-stage companies with transformative tech ideologies dedicated to revolutionizing traditional industries. Today’s conversation also features the space and space-adjacent companies that Riot has invested in including True Anomaly, Integrate, and Azimuth.In addition to Riot’s origin story, Mo and Will discuss:Mapping real customer demandLiquidity within deep

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00:52:09

End-to-End Space Transportation, with Bill Weber...

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2023/10/03

Today’s Pathfinder episode brings in Bill Weber, CEO of Firefly Aerospace, hot on the heels of the U.S. Space Force’s VICTUS NOX mission success. Bill shares insights on the prep work that propelled the mission, with a nod to his past life helming a public company. The discussion offers a glimpse into the meticulous planning and execution required in modern space missions. In addition, Mo and Bill chat: Firefly's next-generation launch vehicleWorking with Northrop GrummanSupply/demand dynamics of

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00:54:25

Management Masterclass, with Chris Celtruda (ATL...

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2023/09/26

Today’s Pathfinder episode features Chris Celtruda, CEO of Valence Surface Technologies and Operating Executive at ATL Partners. With over 30 years of leadership experience, Chris offers a masterclass on scaling aerospace & defense businesses and implementing successful management styles.In addition, Mo and Chris chat: Chris' experience building multiple A&D businessesATL Partners’ new focus on spaceThe current investment landscapeRaising capital in today's marketAnd much more…This episode is

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00:50:06

Program Logistics, with John Conafay (Integrate)

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2023/09/19

There’s a growing demand for streamlined communication and collaboration tools in the space industry. Integrate Space, based in Seattle, is tackling this challenge head-on. Co-founded by John Conafay, a veteran with ties to the USAF, ABL, Spaceflight, and Astranis, the startup aims to modernize program management, offering digital solutions to track development schedules, coordinate missions, and improve vendor collaboration. John believes that a platform like Integrate needs to be part of every

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00:50:54

Space Biotech, with Mark Kugel (Yuri)

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2023/09/12

Space's unique environment holds vast potential for biotech advancements, Mark Kugel, co-CEO and cofounder of German space biotech company Yuri, told Payload. Why space? In this week’s Pathfinder podcast, Mark says that space changes biological systems in commercially valuable ways:– Complex Cell Development: Enhanced growth results in superior organoids, optimizing drug testing and tissue engineering.– Crystal Quality and Size: Space improves the formation of protein crystals, bolstering drug

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00:57:20

Next Gen Space Infrastructure, with Clay Mowry (Voyager)

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2023/09/05

The clock is ticking on Voyager’s aspirations in LEO.In 2021, the Denver-based space exploration company announced its goal to launch a commercial space station by 2028, three years ahead of the ISS retirement. Clay Mowry, the chief revenue officer of Voyager Space and one of the driving forces behind that vision, joins Pathfinder this week to dive into the company’s plans to build infrastructure in Earth orbit. The LEO significance: With the ISS bowing out, LEO-based ventures like Voyager’s Starlab

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00:54:09

The Future of Astra, with Chris Kemp (Astra)

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2023/08/29

This week’s Pathfinder podcast features Chris Kemp, the founder and CEO of Astra, the publicly-traded launch company based out of Alameda, CA that went public via SPAC in the summer 2021. Since then, Astra's valuation has seen a dramatic decline, plummeting from a peak of approximately $4B to a mere $67M today. Chris paints a vivid picture of two contrasting narratives. On one hand, there's a satellite propulsion business, acquired through the purchase of startup Apollo Fusion, with a 278-engine

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00:58:01

Empowering Humanity, with Anousheh Ansari (XPRIZE)

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2023/08/22

This week’s Pathfinder podcast features the CEO of the XPRIZE Foundation, Anousheh Ansari – our first guest who’s actually been to space (it’s shocking to us too that it’s taken this long). After immigrating to the United States from Iran as a teenager, she co-founded Telecom Technologies, a telecommunication company that integrated voice and data. In 2006, she became the first first-privately funded female and Iranian-American to travel to space and the International Space Station.Catch up: The $10

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00:51:45

Space Policy Trends, with Jacqueline Feldscher (Payload)

Valley of Depth ·

2023/08/15

What do a baseball enthusiast, a craft beer podcast host, and a space journalist have in common? A role at Payload! Today's Pathfinder podcast features a very special guest: Payload’s very own Managing Editor, Jacqueline Feldscher. Fresh out of college, Jacqueline aspired to become a sports reporter, but D.C. soon drew her into the worlds of policy, national security, and, fortuitously for us, space. After stints at renowned media organizations such as Politico and Defense One, she felt the

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00:50:02

Nuclear Power in Space, with Tyler Bernstein (Zeno...

Valley of Depth ·

2023/08/09

Nuclear technology is having its moment, according to Zeno Power cofounder and CEO Tyler Bernstein.NASA has used radioisotope tech since the 1960s, but the systems have historically been too expensive and heavy to be widely used. Zeno Power, which develops radioisotope power systems (RPS) that are lighter, more efficient, and more cost-effective than legacy systems, is trying to change that.How it works? Zeno Power's RPS works by converting the heat from decaying radioisotopes into electricity. Its

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