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The Unforgiving60

Ben Pronk, DSC & Tim Curtis

Two ex-special operations guys armed with MBAs seek out people leading lives less ordinary, in order to find out how they fill their ‘unforgiving minutes’, and what helps them go, always, a little further. Like intellectual bowerbirds, we collect shiny little objects of knowledge that will help build better humans. Co-hosted by Ben Pronk and Tim Curtis.

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All Episodes

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Special Episode- How NOT To win Best New Podcast at...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/11/03

The Australian Podcast Awards just announced their finalists..... and we are not one of them. Here's our 'not winning submission'..... and incidentally, we thought it was quite good. That said, you can still vote for us in the Listeners Choice Award: https://australianpodcastawards.com/vote (Submissions were capped at 15 minutes.... and it was very difficult picking the three episodes as every guest has been amazing). Intelligence Summary 00:00- 7:00. SAS Tactics to Beat the Zombies with

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@RV20 - On Parenting – and other dilemmas!

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/10/29

We’ve been a little slack with the RVs this year – we’re blaming it on the fact that we’ve had a whole heap of outstanding guests, however have found a break in the battle this week to reflect on some of those conversations. During this episode, we’ve grouped a few of the recent interviews into the topic of parenting and childhood. Over the past few weeks, we’ve learnt a lot from Steve Biddulph, Rick Pedley-Smith, David Gillespie and Marc Mexsom on what right (and wrong) looks like when it comes

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01:00:50

S2E25- Louise Baxter Shines Brightly- CEO of...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/10/22

What better cause to commit to than seriously ill children? Well, Louise Baxter is a gun leader and the inspiring CEO of Starlight Children’s Foundation. She has over 30 years' experience in marketing, sales and communication before finding her purpose in the not for profit space. Early in her career, Louise was a member of the Sydney board of Leo Burnett Connaghan and May Advertising, NFPOnline Pty Ltd (the holding company for Livewire) and was founding partner of Brave New World Advertising. As

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01:04:40

S2E24- Marc Mexsom: When your cause is bigger than...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/10/12

Trigger Warning. At the age of 14, Marc Mexsom was sexually abused by two much older men, in positions of power over him. In this moving episode, Marc tells his story; of the impact of that event, of the turmoil of keeping this secret inside him for 22 years and of the unimaginable courage to finally speak out about it. Within 10 days of going public, Marc founded the Australian Not-for-Profit Charity, 'Community Courage', with a stated mission to encourage and support the reporting of current and

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01:19:07

S2E23 – Hard to Keep Killed - McQuilty ‘Coco’ Quirke,...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/10/05

McQuilty ‘Coco’ Quirke has died three times and also been awarded the Nursing Service Cross. In this incredible interview Ben and Tim talk to a career Army medic whose life is anything but ordinary. Coco talks about the incident where he was awarded the NSC, and life beyond into the operational theatres of Iraq and Afghanistan. It was in Afghanistan where Coco found himself blown up by a roadside bomb. After all the medic was not the one who was supposed to get hurt. In the attack, Coco suffered two

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01:04:01

S2E22- David Gillespie – Inside Teen Brains

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/09/25

David Gillespie describes himself as a father of six, a recovering corporate lawyer, a former co-founder of a successful software company and the author of eight bestselling books. He is widely known for his book Sweet Poison, which he wrote after recognising that the traditional dietary advice he was being sold wasn’t working. Since then, he has written extensively on issues that are close to his heart, including his latest work Teen Brain. This fantastic book should be compulsory reading for

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S2E21b – Wayne Jones: ex SAS Sky God and Rock Star...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/09/10

Part B of our special double episode with Wayne Jones. Wayne picks up where we left off last week by talking about his transition out of the military… and into life as a CEO of the ASX listed iFly Australia. Taking a lot of risks and being supported by mentors including Steve Baxter… this is the story. Intelligence Summary (INTSUM) 01:45 Intro from Tongue Charge 02:00 About the song ‘Kelly’s Last Dance … and then we play some of it. 03:50 The song ‘One Crowded Hour’, Wayne could never

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01:02:32

S2E21a- Wayne Jones: ex SAS Sky God and Rockstar...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/09/04

A former SAS soldier, many people would now know Wayne Jones as the co-founder, CEO and Director of the Indoor Skydive Australia Group, an ASX listed company operating wind tunnels throughout Australia and the near region. However, prior to his success in business, Wayne honed his freefall skills within the SAS Regiment, including leading the first operational military freefall mission in the history of the Australian Army. In this special double episode, Wayne talks to Ben and Tim about his

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56:02

S2E20- Understanding Meditation with the Expert- Gary...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/08/28

Based in Byron Bay, Gary is one of the world’s leading meditation teachers, with over 15 years of experience. Gary has given elite persons, actors, personalities and the ‘normal’ amongst us, an ‘edge’ through meditation. His client list includes Jessica Gomes, Jamie Durie, Gemma Ward, Hamish Blake and many many more. More widely Gary has worked with thousands of people from all walks of life and his services are sought after by some of the world’s leading companies for his innovative meditation and

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01:10:07

@RV19- On Beth Eggleston, Dr Linda Monshizadeh, Kim...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/08/20

In this episode, Ben and Tim reminisce about recent chats with some incredible guests, including humanitarian Beth Eggleston, plastic surgeon Linda Monshizadeh and security guru Kim Martens. And following those three amazing ladies, they bring another amazing lady, Monika Georgieva, back into the studio to ask some additional questions about the infamous SAS Selection Course, including the highs and lows, intrinsic and extrinsic motivation and self-doubt. And finally, a whole bunch of outstanding

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S2E19- David Olney: More Blind Insights on...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/08/12

We couldn’t get enough into the first episode (Season 2 Epi 8) so here is the sequel. Another episode with David Olney -the smartest guy in the room on solving complex and wicked problems. In this episode we talk collaboration and innovation. Why is doctrinal thinking rewarded and how can we break paradigms. David lectures on applied thinking, complex problem solving, philosophies of violence, group psychology, terrorism, strategic culture, and the clash of civilizations. He knows plenty of

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01:03:04

S2E18 – Turning Troubled Boys into Good Men with Rick...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/08/05

Rick Pedley-Smith is a good man. And, through his selfless work in developing and running the Rite of Passage Boys’ Program, he’s helping to make more good men. Rick began his career in 1997 as a classroom teacher in Sydney before heading to the UK where he worked as a classroom teacher and outdoor education coordinator for an ‘Emotional & Behavioural Disorder Unit’ in West London. Then for the past 16 years, Rick has worked at one of Sydney’s largest high schools. The Rite of Passage Boys’

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01:11:59

S2E17 – On Parenting with Steve Biddulph, AM

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/07/29

Steve Biddulph is one of the world’s best-known parent educators. Steve has been a psychologist for 30 years and his books have sold over four million copies as well as having been translated into 31 languages. Ben and Tim talk with Steve about their own transformations after reading his books and talk the differences between raising boys and raising girls. As well as plenty of good old-fashioned hugging. It’s alright to be affectionate peeps! Listen in then try a few of Steve’s practical

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S2E16 – Understanding Complexity with Dave Snowden...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/07/22

Tim and Ben have previously drawn extensively on Dave Snowden’s material as a means of sense-making in complex environments. And here he is in person (virtually). In particular, Snowden’s Cynefin (pronounced ‘kin-ev-in’) framework has proven consistently to be an incredibly useful and intuitive sense-making tool for leaders in all contexts. In the period of heightened COVID-19 risk it has been highly instructional to the management teams that Tim and Ben work with. In this episode, Dave joins

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S2E15- Phil M Jones: Using Words for Influence and...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/07/15

Phil M Jones is one of the world’s best salespersons. But Phil admits that his success is related to his ability to only do three things. Phil’s started understanding ‘the art of sales’ with a car wash at the age of 14 when he discovered he was earning more than his school teachers. So, as a result he limited his time going to school! Phil was the youngest Sales Manager in the history of UK fashion retailer Debenhams. He then worked with UK Premier League Football Clubs on negotiating sponsorships

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S2E14- Kim Martens: Surviving High Risk Environments...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/07/08

Kim Martens is a high-risk expert in intelligence and security risk management who has worked extensively in hostile environments. She has been attacked by rockets, mortars and improvised explosive devices in Iraq. She’s even hard core enough to even have proposed to her love in Iraq! And then stood beside that same fiancée after he was later blown up in Iraq. After her first career in the police Kim was one of the first female close protection operators into Iraq. She then worked with the United

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S2E13 – The Beauty from Within - Dr Linda...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/07/01

Dr Linda Monshizadeh is a refugee (and triplet!) who spent her early childhood in Iran before her family moved to Australia. She excelled at school and ended up studying medicine, later specialising in plastic surgery. In this episode, Linda talks about plastic surgery and her specialty – cranio-maxillofacial surgery – before reflecting on the overemphasis being placed on physical beauty in today’s society, exacerbated by social media. Linda provides an amazing perspective on ‘selfie dysmorphia’

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01:11:41

S2E12- Beth Eggleston- The HAG! The Humanitarian...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/06/24

Beth Eggleston is a Fulbright Scholar with over twenty years of experience in humanitarian coordination in a range of peace operations and humanitarian response contexts, working alongside host governments, local and international NGOs, and the United Nations. We discuss the frictions between humanitarian operations and military operations. Beth has field experience in Afghanistan, Liberia, Tonga, Costa Rica, Laos PDR, Timor-Leste, and Vietnam and has been on short-term deployments to Pakistan,

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43:11

@RV18- David Olney, Dr Kate Baecher, Tempus Fugit...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/06/21

In this episode, Tim and Ben look back on their discussions with David Olney, Dr Kate Baecher and the amazing guests from their special Tempus Fugit double episode, before turning a very critical eye on their own performance in Alex Lloyd’s Life on the Line podcast. As always, please let us know what you think! Good, bad or indifferent, we’d love to hear from you – please email debrief@unforgiving60.com. Intelligence Summary (INTSUM) 01:30 Reflections on Dave Olney 01:40 How we first came to

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S2E11- Against Life’s Odds: ‘Fugit Inreparabile...

The Unforgiving60 ·

2020/06/17

"If you want to go fast go alone. If you want to go far go together" .... The Prime Minister of Australia re-quoted Corporal Matt Williams ('Willy') in his 2020 ANZAC Day address. Why? Well, the backstory is around 1700 people are diagnosed with brain cancer in Australia annually and approximately 1200 die from the disease every year. Brain cancer kills more children in Australia than any other disease and more people under 40 than any other cancer. And Willy has got it. Shortly after returning

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