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Better Words

Michelle Gately & Caitlin Toohey

A podcast for readers who want to know the stories behind the pages 📖 Join Caitlin and Michelle, two book nerds who bring you in-depth conversations about writing and publishing from those on the inside. Grab a cuppa and get ready to chat books.

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34:34

Non-fiction November Recommendations

Better Words ·

2021/11/20

In this bonus episode, Michelle and Caitlin share some of their favourite non-fiction reads from 2021 just in time for #NonFictionNovember.Before we get into our recommendations, here are some of the books we've discussed and featured on the podcast in 2021...Trivial Grievances by Bridie Jabour (listen)The First Time I Thought I Was Dying by Sarah Walker (listen)Every Lie I've Ever Told by Rosie Waterland (listen) Cultish by Amanda Montell (listen)Michelle's recommendationsThe Five by Hallie

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01:00:58

The future of dystopia and exploring the...

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2021/10/26

Sara Foster was born and raised in England but now lives in Perth with her husband and young daughters. She has previously worked as an editor in-house at HarperCollins UK and then freelance and has worked on many popular titles. She loves dystopian fiction so much that she’s studying the genre for a PhD at Curtin University. So it will come as no surprise that today we are discussing her somewhat dystopian book, and her latest novel, The Hush.Our interview begins at 21 minutes. Mini book club:

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53:40

Gaming, esports and fanthropology with Alexis Nedd

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2021/10/19

Alexis Nedd is a Senior Entertainment Reporter at Mashable where she writes about TV, movies and video games with a sci-fi and fantasy focus. Her writing has appeared across numerous online publications. Today we are pleased to be chatting about her brilliant debut young adult novel, Don’t Hate the Player. Our interview starts at 13 minutes. Michelle recommendsThe Appeal by Janice HallettTold entirely through correspondence, this novel is SO addictive and perfect if you’re looking for something to

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01:26:34

The absurdity of the human body with Sarah Walker

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2021/10/12

Sarah Walker is a writer, artist and photographer. She makes work about anxiety, control and intimacy in text, video and immersive installation across Australia and internationally. She is a Walkley-nominated essayist and critic, and co-hosted the podcast Contact Mic. Today we are discussing her beautiful book, The First Time I Thought I Was Dying. Our interview begins at 20 minutes. Please note that this interview includes discussions about body image and mental health and may be triggering for

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01:29:11

Horror films, acting dynasties and the strange limbo...

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2021/10/05

Danielle Binks was one of the very first people to join us on Better Words, but we’ll be honest the sound quality is pretty bad so don’t try to listen! Anyway, our guest has supported the show from the very beginning and is one of the biggest champions of Australian literature for young adults and children. She is a literary agent and editor - the person who helped several of our previous guests secure their publishing deals. In 2017, she edited the first #LoveOzYA anthology of short stories. Her

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01:13:47

Hybrid genre novels and the world of artificial...

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2021/09/28

Eli Lee was born in Dorset and now lives in London. She writes fiction and non-fiction for a variety of anthologies, magazines and websites. She is the fiction editor and a contributor to the literary journal Minor Literatures and has also worked for Strange Horizons. Her debut novel, A Strange and Brilliant Light, has just been published.Our interview begins at 15 minutes. Mini book club: Cultish by Amanda MontellA thought-provoking and compulsively readable exploration of how cult-ish language

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01:08:39

Unlikely friendships, dads in YA and feedback from...

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2021/09/21

Tobias Madden has a special place in our hearts - a friend of the show and someone we are DYING to one day have a coffee with. Our guest grew up in Ballarat and worked for 10 years as a performer touring Australia and New Zealand with musicals including Mary Poppins, CATS, Singin' in the Rain, and Guys and Dolls. We first spoke to him for Better Words in 2019 when he edited and published Underdog, the first #LoveOzYA short story collection for previously unpublished Aussie writers. In 2019, he also

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01:17:03

Finding characters, PS I Love You and lessons from 18...

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2021/09/14

Cecelia Ahern almost needs no introduction. She is the best selling novelist at 21 when her first book PS I Love You was published and later made into a hit film. Since then she has published 17 other books, sold more than 25 million copies of her books in more than 40 countries. Her highly acclaimed collection of stories, Roar, is being adapted for Apple TV and stars Nicole Kidman and several other huge names. Her latest, and 18th novel, Freckles is out now. Our interview begins at 18 minutes. Mini

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01:05:47

What makes a 'suspense' novel and leaving law for...

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2021/09/07

Sonia Velton grew up living between the Bahamas and the UK. She has worked as a solicitor at an international law firm and lived in the Middle East for eight years. She has since moved back to England where she lives with her three children. Her first novel, Blackberry and Wile Rose, was a historical fiction inspired by real characters and events. Her latest novel, The Image of Her, is something entirely different and that's what we're chatting about today.Our interview starts at 15

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01:07:41

Dramatic teen years and telling stories to find...

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2021/08/24

Samera Kamaleddine is a Sydney-based journalist who spent the early part of her career writing about boys, annoying parents and friendship dramas in the teen magazines we grew up reading - Dolly and Girlfriend. She loves the beach and can be found there whenever she’s not writing (and sometimes when she is). Her debut novel for young adults, Half My Luck, has just been released after winning The Matilda Children's Literature Prize through Harper Collins.Our interview begins at 17 minutes. Mini book

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01:16:35

Millennial malaise, trivial grievances and what...

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2021/08/17

Bridie Jabour is the opinion editor of Guardian Australia. She has previously worked as a journalist for NewsCorp and Fairfax, where she has reported on social affairs, politics and regional issues. She has worked in the Canberra press gallery and was a reporter for Brisbane Times after starting her career at the Gold Coast Bulletin in Queensland. She writes commentary on feminism, inequality, and pop culture, and appears regularly on The Drum, Triple J and ABC Radio Sydney. She is the author of the

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01:02:48

Teenage male friendships, all-boys schools and...

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2021/08/10

Rhiannon Wilde has been telling stories for as long as she can remember - inside her head but also as a journalist and high school English teacher in Brisbane. Her short story inspired by urban Brisbane, You Deserve Nothing, was longlisted for the Queensland Young Writer’s Award in 2014. But in this episode, we will be discussing her debut young adult novel, Henry Hamlet’s Heart. This beautiful story won the Queensland Literary Awards Glendower Award for an Emerging Queensland Writer in 2019 and has

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57:12

Imagining alternate histories and fighting fascism...

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2021/08/03

Jane Thynne was born in Venezuela and moved around the world with her parents and two brothers before settling in London. She is a journalist and writer who has published several historical fiction novels. Today, though, we are discussing her chilling new alternative history Widowland. Our interview starts at 19 minutes. Michelle recommendsThe Miseducation of Evie Epworth by Matson TaylorAn uplifting and joyful novel about a young woman in the 1960s finding her place in the worldCaitlin

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01:41

Welcome to Better Words Season 7

Better Words ·

2021/08/03

Welcome to Better Words. We're so glad you're joining us!

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01:09:04

Life (and writing) after The Flatshare with Beth O'Leary

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2021/04/27

Beth O'Leary is one of the biggest names in contemporary fiction at the moment. Her debut novel, The Flatshare, has sold over half a million copies and her second novel, The Switch has been optioned for film by Steven Spielberg’s production company. Today we’re thrilled to be discussing her brand new novel, The Road Trip.Our interview starts at 21 minutes. Michelle recommendsIt's a SinBeautiful and compelling, make sure you've got tissues at the ready. Caitlin recommendsZero ChillA fun and enjoyable

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01:05:34

Feminism in a nuclear winter and anger as fuel for...

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2021/04/20

Claire Zorn is a multi-award-winning author of young adult literature. Her resume of awards is incredibly impressive including the Children’s Book Council of Australia awards, the Inky Awards, the Prime Minister’s Literary Awards, and multiple state Premier’s awards. Today we are discussing her new novel When We Are Invisible, a sequel to her stunning post-apocalyptic debut The Sky So Heavy. Our interview starts at 16 minutes. Caitlin recommends:Fisk (TV show)An enjoyable and witty new ABC sitcom

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01:23:35

Greek tragedies, feminist gothic literature and the...

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2021/04/15

Phoebe Wynne worked as a teacher for eight years, teaching Classics in the UK and English Language and Literature in Paris. She left teaching to write and we’re delighted today to be talking about her first novel Madam, which has been described as gothic fiction with a feminist twist perfect for fans of Madeline Miller and Margaret Atwood. Our interview begins at 26 minutes. Mini book club: Expectation by Anna HopeWe found this a really fascinating book about friendship and relationships and what we

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01:04:19

Creating a music icon and oral history narratives...

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2021/04/07

Dawnie Walton was born and raised in Florida, but now lives in Brooklyn New York with her husband. She earned an MFA from the Iowa Writers’ Workshop in 2018 and has a journalism degree. She was formerly an editor at Essence and Entertainment Weekly. Her debut novel, The Final Revival of Opal and Nev has been described as a “firecracker” and an “utterly fresh take on finding one’s voice, on systemic racism and sexism, on freedom of expression”. Our interview starts at 16 minutes. Michelle

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01:07:59

Culturally diverse storytelling and the complexity of...

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2021/03/30

Rebecca Lim is a writer, illustrator, editor and lawyer. She is the author of over twenty books and has been nominated for multiple awards. She is a co-founder of the Voices from the Intersection initiative to support emerging young adult and children's authors and illustrators who are First Nations, People of Colour, LGBTIQA+ or living with disability, and is a co-editor of Meet Me at the Intersection, a groundbreaking anthology of YA #OwnVoice memoir, poetry and fiction. Today, we are discussing

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01:18:12

Violence against women, the 'perfect victim' myth and...

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2021/03/23

Leanne Hall is an author of and specialist in young adult and children’s fiction. Her debut novel, This Is Shyness, won the Text Prize and was followed by a sequel, Queen of the Night. Her novel for younger readers, Iris and the Tiger, won the Patricia Wrightson Prize for Children’s Literature at the 2017 NSW Premier’s Literary Awards. This week we're diving into her beautiful and haunting YA novel, The Gaps. Just a note a warning before listening: This episode deals with discussions of violent

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