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Emerging Form

Christie Aschwanden

Emerging Form is a podcast about the creative process in which a journalist (Christie Aschwanden) and a poet (Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer) discuss creative conundrums over wine. Each episode concludes with a game of two questions in which a guest joins in to help answer questions about the week"s topic. Season one guests include poets, novelists, journalists, a song writer, a circus performer, a sketch artist and a winemaker. emergingform.substack.com

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Episode 81: Nature and Creativity with Florence Williams

Emerging Form ·

2023/02/09

If you’ve noticed that being outside improves your creativity, you’re right. We speak with Florence Williams about the science of awe, why cultivating openness is your muse’s best friend, and specific ways to nourish your creative practice by engaging with the natural world. We also talk about the writing of her new book, in which she studies how we recover from heartbreak. It’s an episode that appeals to heart, brain and the unselved soul, exploring “the science of the ineffable.”Florence Williams

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Episode 80: Holiday Mathis Wrote a Novel!

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2023/01/26

“Put on your zeitgeist hat,” says Holiday Mathis, syndicated astrologer and author of How to Fail Epically in Hollywood, “then pour everything you can into the part of your art you can control.” In this episode of Emerging Form, we talk about how to gather “textures” from daily life for creative practice, what she’s learned from writing, editing, publishing and narrating her new novel, the importance of beta readers, dreaming big, and the healthiest relationship to rejection letters we’ve ever

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Episode 79: Lauren Fleshman on Telling Her Story to...

Emerging Form ·

2023/01/12

Lauren Fleshman knows firsthand the challenges of being a female runner, and how some of the greatest challenges come from the system meant to support athletes. In this episode of Emerging Form, she talks about how and why she came to write her memoir, “bringing a pulse to the research.” She tells us about the challenges of trying to write a book during a global pandemic while parenting young children and how depression threatened to derail the project. Our discussion includes frank talk about her

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36:57

Episode 78: End of the year reflections

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2022/12/29

How can looking back at your creative practice over the last year help steer you forward into next year’s creative practice? Join Christie and Rosemerry as they do their annual review of things they’d hoped might happen, what really happened and where they think their creative lives are going next. The conversation reveals several epiphanies about creative practice vs. career, what really matters, and the power of planning (and changing plans). Bonus: they hand out magic wands for you to make your

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31:34

Episode 77: Poet aaron abeyta on how art gathers us

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2022/12/15

“Art gathers us,” says poet aaron a. abeyta. In this episode, we talk with the celebrated poet about his newest collection of poems and letters, ancestor of fire. In this episode, focus on what is the work of the writer? How do we save language? What are the benefits of writing longhand? How do we give voice to what is broken? How does repetition echo storytelling? Why is it important to write what you don’t know? Plus aaron shares many lines and bits of wisdom from his mentors and literary

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37:46

Episode 76: Paying attention with Chris Duffy

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2022/12/01

Paying attention is an essential part of creative practice, and in this episode, we speak with comedian and TV writer Chris Duffy about how he transforms what he notices into a career in comedy. He also talks about why jokes and poems are versions of the same thing, how to structure a comedy set, why math is so important to comedy, how to maximize a laugh, the importance of vulnerability and how to arrange word order for maximum effect. He also offers incredible writing and performing advice,

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35:40

Episode 75: What is Success?

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2022/11/17

Image: Rosemerry and her daughter definitely succeeded in making a delicious chocolate beet birthday cake. What is success? How have your ideas about success changed over time? Who is someone you think of when you think of a successful person in your field? How has their success made an impact on you? What risks have you taken for success? In this conversation, co-hosts Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer and Christie Aschwanden explore the importance of role models, external vs. internal markers for success,

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Episode 74: T.A. Barron on the Magic of Stories

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2022/11/03

“There is a magic to stories well told,” says novelist T.A. Barron, and in this thoughtful, heart-opening, life-affirming episode, he explores how story weaves through every part of our lives. He talks about how he went from rejected novelist to successful business leader to best-selling author. He speaks of the story as a boat containing treasure–and of the magic not only in his stories about Merlin, but also in our daily lives and how creative practice helps us share this treasure. To close, he

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32:12

Episode 73: Steve Magness on Doing Hard Things

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2022/10/20

Creative projects are rewarding, but let’s be honest: they’re also hard. Today’s guest, Steve Magness, is an expert on doing hard things and he has some good advice on how to break through. Steve discusses the benefits of a quiet ego, how to feed and reward the positive voices in your head, how shifting to talking to yourself in second or third person can help you quiet negative self-talk, and how spending time alone and practicing boredom can foster creativity.Steve Magness is a world-renowned

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Episode 72: Nicola Twilley and Geoff Manaugh on...

Emerging Form ·

2022/10/06

Emerging Form is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new episodes and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Imagine researching a theoretical global disaster that, while you are writing your book, comes to pass. In this episode, Emerging Form welcomes Nicola Twilley and Geoff Manaugh, who were writing their non-fiction book Until Proven Safe: The History and Future of Quarantine before the COVID-19 pandemic. We talk about writing as metabolic process–how it helps to

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Episode 71: Aging and Letting Go of Identity as a...

Emerging Form ·

2022/09/22

In all of our other shows, we have talked about creative practice and how you develop your own voice, your own identity, how you make your own creative mark. And in today’s episode, we speak with poet and performer and teacher Kim Rosen, who will guide in thinking about the opposite–how we might let go of our creative identities as we age, and why that is essential work. Kim Rosen, M.F.A., author of Saved by a Poem: The Transformative Power of Words, has awakened listeners around the world to the

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Episode 70- Checking in One Year Later

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2022/09/08

How has creativity served us in times of trauma? Last year, Christie and Rosemerry released an episode mid-September about the very difficult life events that had occurred for them in August–Christie’s father’s nearly fatal stroke and the death of Rosemerry’s son. As we come back from a much-needed summer break, we revisit the past year to look at how things have changed–and stayed the same. In this episode, our hosts talk about how years of creative practice can be a gift we give our future selves

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Episode 69: Travel and the Muse with Laurie Wagner

Emerging Form ·

2022/07/07

Noticing and being present are two essential ingredients for creativity, and in today’s episode, writer Laurie Wagner discusses how travel can facilitate creative traits like these and help you connect with your muse. She tells us about how being in a foreign place helps her move slower and see things anew. “Our lives are passing, and we think we are going someplace,” she says, but meanwhile life is passing us by in this present moment, and that’s where creativity lies. PLEASE NOTE: we are taking a

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Episode 69: How Rachel Feltman Wrote "Been There,...

Emerging Form ·

2022/06/23

How does a book come together? We speak with Rachel Feltman, author of Been There, Done That: A Rousing History of Sex, about the evolution of her book, from first inklings to years of research to organization to completion. She explains how she answered the burning question, “How do I make this a book and not just a pile of words?” Her secrets include A 500-mile ride on a tandem bike, a morning routine, a great agent and editor, the willingness to turn in her “hottest garbage,” and a three-word

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Episode 67 – Inspiration from other genres

Emerging Form ·

2022/06/09

Need inspiration? Look to other arts. This practice, known as ekphrasis–the art of making art inspired by other art, can “fill the well” and create a rich field of ideas to play with. In this episode, Rosemerry offers a provocative list of specific ways one might engage with another work of art and gives examples from her recent poems responding to the paintings of Vincent van Gogh and the music of our previous guest Kayleen Asbo (episode 27, Creative Communities). And Christie talks about novels

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Episode 66: Life Cycle of A Creative Project with...

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2022/05/26

Some projects take on a life of their own–what begins as a side project might grow into a life-style change and new career. But how do we know if or when to end it? How do external factors influence it? What do we learn about adaptation and trust? In this episode of Emerging Form, we bring back podcaster Laura Joyce Davis, host and executive producer of the award-winning narrative podcast Shelter in Place. We talk about committing to projects you don’t know how to do, learning from failure, spin off

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Episode 65: A Creative Walk with Valencia Robin

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2022/05/12

Walking. So simple, and yet putting one foot in front of the other is one of the most profound things you can do for your creative practice. In this episode of Emerging Form, we speak with award-winning poet and painter Valencia Robin about how walking has inspired her practice. We bring in science to support what we all know intuitively–moving the body helps open the brain. And Robin (as we call her throughout the podcast) shares poems by contemporary poets and herself, too, that invoke the art of

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Episode 64 bonus: Alison Luterman on coaxing the form...

Emerging Form ·

2022/05/09

“You wouldn’t yell at a preemie baby,” says poet, lyricist, playwright and teacher Alison Luterman. In this bonus episode, we talk about Alison’s “coaxing” approach for her new work, about patience, self-compassion, starting the morning without screens, the benefits and detriments of having many projects at once, and, of course, the importance of coffee. Alison Luterman's four books of poetry are The Largest Possible Life; See How We Almost Fly; Desire Zoo, and In the Time of Great Fires. Her poems

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Episode 64: Alison Luterman reprise -- it's ok to not...

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2022/04/28

Is talent necessary? Is it possible, with devotion, hard work and help and time, to develop a creative practice that doesn’t come to us naturally? In this episode of Emerging Form, we talk again with poet, lyricist, playwright and teacher Alison Luterman. As an exuberant young girl who loved to sing, she was told by a choir director to just mouth the words. For decades the wound festered. “It is hard to do the things you’ve been told you’re bad at,” she says. And yet, we talk with her about her

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Episode 63: Reviving abandoned projects with Holiday...

Emerging Form ·

2022/04/14

Ninety-seven percent of people who begin a novel don’t finish it. But what about all the people who finish it and then set it aside? What happens to that novel in a drawer? Well … sometimes it goes to novel heaven and finds a publisher–and we have proof. In this episode we talk to Holiday Mathis (who was our guest in episode 23, The Daily Grind), and she tells us how she wrote her new novel, why she set it aside, why she picked it up again, what she learned from the experience, how the world changed

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