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Political Gabfest

Voted “Favorite Political Podcast” by Apple Podcasts listeners. Stephen Colbert says "Everybody should listen to the Slate Political Gabfest." The Gabfest, featuring Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz, is the kind of informal and irreverent discussion Washington journalists have after hours over drinks.Want more Political Gabfest? Join Slate Plus to unlock weekly bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from

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1:04:37

20 Years Since 9/11

Political Gabfest ·

2021/09/09

Emily, John and David reflect on 9/11; the fight for the infrastructure agenda, and declining college enrollment among men.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Garrett M. Graff for the Atlantic: “After 9/11, the U.S. Got Almost Everything Wrong”The Only Plane in the Sky: An Oral History of 9/11, by Garrett M. GraffAdy Barkan for The New York Times: “Home Care Keeps Me Alive. It Should Be Fully Funded.”Jamelle Bouie for The New York Times: “$1 Trillion Isn’t as Much as It

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1:03:05

$10,000 Bounty

Political Gabfest ·

2021/09/04

John, Emily and David discuss SCOTUS letting the Texas abortion ban go into effect; the Afghanistan exit; and Dr. Atul Gawande joins the show to explain how Costa Rica has surpassed US life expectancy by getting serious about public health.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Atul Gawande for the New Yorker: “Costa Ricans Live Longer Than Us. What’s the Secret?”Here’s this week’s chatter:John: Erin Donaghue for CBS News: “Officers and Paramedics Charged in Death of Elijah

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59:54

Back to School

Political Gabfest ·

2021/08/26

Jamelle, Emily and David discuss the Afghanistan evacuation, starting school during delta, and the path forward for infrastructure.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Jamelle Bouie for the New York Times: “$1 Trillion Isn’t as Much as It Sounds” Here’s this week’s chatter:Jamelle: Godzilla: The AlbumEmily: Jessica Stoya for Slate: “What We Can Really Learn From the OnlyFans Debacle”David: Atul Gawande for the New Yorker: “Costa Ricans Live Longer Than Us. What’s the

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58:58

Tragedy of Afghanistan

Political Gabfest ·

2021/08/19

Emily, David and Alexandra Petri discuss the Afghanistan withdrawal, with guest Annie Pforzheimer; California’s recall election; and personal pandemic ethics.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Annie Pforzheimer for the Washington Post, “Leaving Afghanistan Will Lead to Yet Another Civil War There”Annie Pforzheimer for the Washington Post, “In Afghanistan, a Summer of Pain Awaits”Annie Pforzheimer for the New York Times, “The Long Road Out of Afghanistan”Rachel Feintzeig for the

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58:03

Little Fires Everywhere

Political Gabfest ·

2021/08/12

Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Report Little Fires Everywhere, by Celeste Ng Public Citizens: The Attack on Big Government and the Remaking of American Liberalism, by Paul SabinPaul Sabin for the New York Times: “How Liberals Can Attack From the Left—and Win”Charged: The New Movement to Transform American Prosecution and End Mass Incarceration, by Emily BazelonThe Genius Factory: Unravelling the Mystery of the Nobel Prize Sperm

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58:58

Impeach Today

Political Gabfest ·

2021/08/05

John and David are joined by Andrea Valdez of The Atlantic to discuss New York Mayor Andrew Cuomo refusing to resign, the survival of the eviction moratorium and the arrival of vaccine passports.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Annie Lowery for the Atlantic: “The Time Tax”Here’s this week’s chatter:Andrea: Planet Money: “Three Reasons for the Housing Shortage”; Jerusalem Demsa for Vox: “Homeownership Can Bring Out the Worst in You”John: Jason Kottke for Kottke.org: “This App

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50:44

Medieval Battle

Political Gabfest ·

2021/07/29

Emily, John and David discuss the January 6th Commission, the return of masks and they are joined by guest Annie Lowrey to talk about the "time tax."Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Annie Lowrey for The Atlantic: “The Time Tax: Why is so much American bureaucracy left to average citizens?”Here’s this week’s chatter: John: Max Fisher for the New York Times: “Disinformation for Hire, a Shadow Industry, Is Quietly Booming”Emily: The Vanishing Half and The Mothers by Brit

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48:28

Actually It Is ‘Infrastructure Week'

Political Gabfest ·

2021/07/22

Emily, John and David discuss the Delta variant and the vaccination decline, the bipartisan infrastructure plan living another day, and the pandemic Olympics.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:David Leonhardt for The New York Times: “Why Aren’t the Vaccines Approved?”Matthew Yglesias for Slow Boring: “Let's Get More People Vaccinated”Ross Douthat for The New York Times: “How to Reach the Unvaccinated”John Dickerson for CBS News: “Governor Asa Hutchinson on ‘Face the Nation,’

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55:38

Mature Minor

Political Gabfest ·

2021/07/15

John, David and Josie discuss the escalating threats to democratic elections, minors’ rights to vaccination, and Josh Levin on the podcast One Year: 1977.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Slate’s One Year: 1977The Queen: The Forgotten Life Behind an American Myth, by Josh Levin Citizen KaneUlysses, by James JoyceHere’s this week’s chatter:John: Gaia Pianigiani and Emma Bubola for The New York Times: “Italy’s Government to Ban Cruise Ships From Venice”; The New York Times: “How

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54:56

Gab Me Baby One More Time

Political Gabfest ·

2021/07/08

Emily, John and David discuss New York City’s primary election, J.D. Vance’s Senate run, and injustice illuminated by Britney Spears.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis, by J.D. VanceMolly Ball for Time: “Breakfast with J.D. Vance, Anti-Trump Author Turned Pro-Trump Candidate”Ronan Farrow and Jia Tolentino for The New Yorker: “Britney Spears’s Conservatorship Nightmare”Caitlin Flanagan for The Atlantic: “You Really Need

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58:28

Failed Justice Breyer Countdown

Political Gabfest ·

2021/07/01

Emily Bazelon is joined by Ruth Marcus and Jamelle Bouie to discuss the infrastructure negotiations, alarming Supreme Court decisions and Bill Cosby’s release.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Catherine Rampell for The Washington Post: “Three Things That Could Still Blow Up The Bipartisan Infrastructure Deal”Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America, by Ari BermanRuth Marcus for The Washington Post: “I’ve Urged Supreme Court Justices to Stick Around

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49:46

F School, F Softball, F Cheer, F Everything

Political Gabfest ·

2021/06/24

Emily, John and David discuss the post-pandemic workforce, Tucker Carlson, and student wins at the Supreme Court.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Ben Smith for the New York Times: “Tucker Carlson Calls Journalists ‘Animals.’ He’s Also Their Best Source.”Slate: “David Plotz and Tucker Carlson Debate Scott Brown, Health Care, and More”Andrew Van Dam for the Washington Post: “The Seven Industries Most Desperate for Workers”Deep Work: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted

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52:56

New, New, New Cold War

Political Gabfest ·

2021/06/17

Emily, John and David discuss President Biden's G7 summit and the meeting with President Putin, McConnell’s plans to block a Biden Supreme Court nominee, and they are joined by guest Melissa Murray on what “critical race theory” is and is not.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Julia Ioffe for Tomorrow Will Be Worse: “‘Everyone Gets What They Deserve’: Biden Takes On the Putin Singularity”Strict Scrutiny podcast Amicus podcastThe New York Times Magazine: “The 1619 Project”Deep

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59:59

Manchin on the Hill

Political Gabfest ·

2021/06/10

Emily, John and David discuss Joe Manchin, how the Trump DOJ lives on, and George Packer’s four Americas.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:John Dickerson for CBS News: “Sen. Joe Manchin on Face the Nation, June 6, 2021”Ruth Marcus for the Washington Post: “Attorney General Garland, Please Stop Digging”George Packer for the Atlantic: “How America Fractured Into Four Parts”Last Best Hope: America in Crisis and Renewal, by George PackerGeorge Packer for the Atlantic: “Can Civics

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1:01:06

The “Murder Mystery” Edition

Political Gabfest ·

2021/06/03

Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:The Ezra Klein Show: “Obama Explains How America Went From ‘Yes We Can’ to ‘MAGA’”Uneasy Peace: The Great Crime Decline, the Renewal of City Life, and the Next War on Violence, by Patrick Sharkey AmericanViolence.orgMonica C. Bell for the Yale Law Journal: “Police Reform and the Dismantling of Legal Estrangement”Penn Wharton Budget Model: “COVID-19 School Closures: Long-Run Macroeconomic Effects”Hang Up and Listen: “The Naomi Osaka Withdraws

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55:21

The “Gain of Function” Edition

Political Gabfest ·

2021/05/27

Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:David Leonhardt for The New York Times: “The Lab-Leak Theory”Nicholson Baker for New York Magazine: “The Lab-Leak Hypothesis”Nicholas Wade for The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists: “The Origin of COVID: Did People or Nature Open Pandora’s Box at Wuhan?”Anne Applebaum for The Atlantic: “Other Regimes Will Hijack Planes Too”The Skies Belong to Us: Love and Terror in the Golden Age of Hijacking, by Brendan I. KoernerEric Levitz for New York

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56:30

Hot Button Issue

Political Gabfest ·

2021/05/20

Emily, John and David discuss the violence between Israel and Gaza, abortion at the Supreme Court, and the book Nine Nasty Words with author John McWhorter.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:John Dickerson for CBS: “Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on "Face the Nation," May 16, 2021”Bernie Sanders for the New York Times: “Bernie Sanders: The U.S. Must Stop Being an Apologist for the Netanyahu Government”Nine Nasty Words: English in the Gutter: Then, Now, and Forever,

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1:02:19

Million Dollar Jab

Political Gabfest ·

2021/05/13

Emily, John and David discuss the post-pandemic economy; vaccine hoarding; and they're joined by Alex Stamos to talk about infrastructure, cybersecurity and the Colonial Pipeline hack.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:David Leonhardt for the New York Times: “A Misleading C.D.C. Number”Dana Goldstein for the New York Times: “President of Key Teachers’ Union Shares Plea: ‘Schools Must Be Open’ in Fall”Brian Krebs for Krebs on Security: “A Closer Look at the DarkSide Ransomware

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1:00:32

Martyrdom of Liz Cheney

Political Gabfest ·

2021/05/06

David, John and Emily discuss Liz Cheney's defiance of Trumpists; Trump’s Facebook suspension; and meatlessness getting (more) political.Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:Kimberly Robinson for Bloomberg Law: “Video: The Wild Hypotheticals Posed by Justice Stephen Breyer”John Dickerson for CBS News: “Ron Klain on ‘Face the Nation,’ May 2, 2021”Evelyn Douek for Lawfare: “It's Not Over. The Oversight Board's Trump Decision is Just the Start.”These Truths: A History of the United

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46:06

Live at 100 Days

Political Gabfest ·

2021/04/29

A live Gabfest with Emily, David and John on the policies and politics of Biden’s first 100 days— with special guest Jamelle Bouie!A reference from this week’s show:Thomas B. Edsall for The New York Times: “Should Biden Emphasize Race or Class or Both or None of the Above”Here’s this week’s chatter:John: The Premonition: A Pandemic Story by Michael Lewis; Gertrude Stein on punctuation from Lectures in America. Emily: Rosanna Xia for The Los Angeles Times: “DDT Waste Barrels Off L.A. Coast Shock

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