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34:20

Spotify’s Road to $100B and Profitability

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2025/01/06

Spotify went from a $14 billion market cap in 2022 to crossing $100 billion toward the end of 2024. A lot has changed in two years, but there’s more to the story than just the past 24 months. Join me and Sleepwell Capital, an investor, to break down Spotify’s journey to profitability. Hope you enjoy!04:59 Spotify vs Big Tech DSPs10:16 Spotify's growth signifies change in music distribution.14:26 Netflix comparisons21:44 YouTube vs Spotify28:19 Is Spotify's PE ratio too high?32:31 Major

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30:15

Winners and Losers of 2024: Part 2

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2024/12/24

Here’s Part 2 of the winners and losers of 2024 in streaming, artist, and record label with Zack O’ Malley Greenburg. We talked about the shifting terrain of the music industry, down to the decline of festival headliners and the emergence of “Peak Superstar”. Hope you enjoy!02:00 Live music - winners and losers08:22 M&A - winners and losers24:38 Comeback players of the year28:13 Honorable mentions

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36:00

Winners and Losers of 2024: Part 1

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2024/12/24

Here are our winners and losers of 2024 in streaming, artist, and record label. Part 2 coming in a few days. Hear me and Zack O’ Malley Greenburg break it all down!00:00 Streaming - winners and losers15:23 Artist - winners and losers26:00 Record Label - winners and losersListen in for our Chartmetric Stat of the Week!

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29:04

What Superfans Really Want with SoundCloud CEO Eliah...

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2024/12/19

Here’s my fireside chat with Eliah Seton, CEO of SoundCloud, from our Trapital Summit. We talked about the company’s sale process, how it became profitable, SoundCloud as a platform for tastemakers, and more. Hope you enjoy!06:25 Connecting music creators and fans07:48 How SoundCloud became profitable13:30 Adding value for superfans20:24 Helping smaller artists monetize and engage fans25:26 The latest on the sale process29:42 AI and artist autonomy will alter music

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27:27

The State of Hip-Hop with Def Jam CEO Tunji Balogun -...

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2024/12/16

Here’s my fireside chat with Tunji Balogun, Chairman and CEO of Def Jam, and our Trapital Summit. We talked about the evolving landscape of Universal Music Group, fluidity of music genres, the state of hip-hop, and the role of artist development. Hope you enjoy!04:31 Def Jam's evolution11:32 Hip-hop’s current state and influence across genres20:29 Artist development28:11 Afrobeats' global rise.This episode was brought to you by music creation platform Splice.

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28:40

The Future of Music Creation with Splice CEO Kakul...

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2024/12/12

At our Trapital Summit, we had a fireside chat on the overlooked areas of music with Splice CEO Kakul Srivastava and MIDiA Research’s Tati Cirisano. They discussed why it matters to invest in the new generation of talent, the tension between creators and rightsholders, and AI’s influence in music creation. Hope you enjoy!08:22 Exploring differences between recorded music and creator tools.08:56 Focus on creative vision, subscription model success.12:34 Creating tools for human-centered artistic

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27:32

Founder Mode vs. Manager Mode with Believe’s Denis...

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2024/12/09

At our Trapital Summit, we had to talk about Founder Mode vs. Manager Mode. We were joined by the founder and CEO of Believe, Denis Ladegaillerie. Believe is global music company that owns TuneCore and had its IPO in 2021. But in 2024, a consortium led by Ladegaillerie tried to take the company private, while fending of a takeover attempt from Warner Music Group.We talked about that experience, Believe’s plans to 2025, and more.Note: This conversation was recorded on October 3, 2024, before

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29:07

Unpacking The Value of Music

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2024/12/06

The global value of music copyright is now $45.5 billion. In this episode, we'll explore the global music market with friend of the pod, Spotify’s former chief economist, Will Page. We examine how glocalization is transforming the industry from Colombia to Brazil, Mexico, and beyond.We'll also discuss the difference between value and volume, streaming revenue, the need for better measurement of emerging markets, and more.**Stay tuned as we unravel the complexities and opportunities of the

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33:28

What is Drake's Goal?

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2024/12/04

Aubrey Graham has taken two legal actions against Universal Music Group, Spotify, iHeartMedia, after the success of "Not Like Us." Are Drake's claims of inflated streams and defamation of character valid? Even if they are, what is Drake's end game with all of this?Listen to me and Brian "Z" Zisook, Audiomack co-founder, break it all down.This episode is brought to you by elgato, my go-to for podcasting.

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28:27

What's Next After Streaming? Troy Carter - Trapital...

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2024/11/27

Here's my fireside chat with Venice Music CEO and co-founder, Troy Carter, live from the summit. We talked about the shift to independence, the need to sell more than just an audio experience, why it's a sellers market for music distributors, and the next revenue driver for music will be after streaming.We'll be sharing more conversations from the summit over the next few weeks!This episode is brought to you by Hangout, the new social music platform.Listen in for our Chartmetric Stat of

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31:58

TikTok’s Future in Music

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2024/11/21

TikTok has had quite the 2024, especially in music. The year started with a very public dispute with UMG. But TikTok also saw the rise of SoundOn, the end of TikTok Music, lingering threats of a US ban, the force of TikTok Shop, and more.Join me and MIDiA’s Tati Cirisano as we break it all down.Sponsors:HubSpot: download your free AI playbook here. Chartmetric: check out our Stat of the Week!

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29:10

AI and Music - Trapital Summit

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2024/11/18

Here’s another great fireside chat from our Trapital Summit. Listen to Warner Music Group’s chief digital officer Carletta Higginson and MIDiA Research’s Tatiana Cirisano discuss AI’s impact on music, and the ongoing tug-of-war for startup founders asking for permission vs forgivenes.Higginson has seen it from all sides of the table; as an attorney, at YouTube, and now at a major label and rights holder.Enjoy!This episode was brought to you by Too Lost, the all-in-one technology solution for

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43:17

Inside the NFL and Roc Nation Partnership

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2024/11/14

The NFL and Roc Nation just renewed their five-year partnership to lead the Super Bowl Halftime Show production and its Inspire Change Initiative. Let’s dive into what led to the initial deal in 2019, how it’s gone, Jay Z’s involvement, the twists, turns, and whole lot more. Join me and Zack O’Malley Greenburg as we break it all down.Sponsors:CD Baby: https://cdbaby.com/Splice: https://splice.com/Chartmetric: https://www.trapital.com/chartmetric

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28:03

The Future of Music Rights with Sherrese Clarke...

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2024/11/08

Here's my fireside chat with the Founder and CEO of HarbourView Equity Partners, Sherrese Clarke Soares, live from the Trapital Summit. We talked about the future of music rights, future-proofing assets, media companies, sports, and more.We'll be sharing more of our conversations from the summit on this feed, so stay tuned for that!This episode is brought to you by elgato, my go-to for podcasting tools. Learn more here. Listen in for our Chartmetric Stat of the Week.

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32:30

Why The Grammys Moved to Disney

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2024/11/01

Big news! The Recordings Academy announced that in 2027, the show will move to Disney and be broadcasted on ABC, Disney+, and Hulu in a new deal worth over $500 million. This is a huge loss for CBS, the home to music's biggest night since the early 1970s.In this episode we break down the reasons for the move, along with upcoming storylines from the 2025 Grammys in February. I'm joined by LA Times pop music critic, Mikael Wood!This episode was brought to you by elgato, my go-to for podcasting

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19:24

Ghazi on EMPIRE's Rise in Music - Trapital Summit

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2024/10/24

Here's my fireside chat with the Founder and CEO of EMPIRE, Ghazi, live from the Trapital Summit. We talked about the success behind his label's hit record, Shaboozey "A Bar Song (Tipsy)," the rise of indie music, and why he will never sell his company.We'll be sharing more of our conversations from the summit on this feed, so stay tuned for that!This episode is brought to you by music creation platform Splice, the world’s best sample library. Learn more here.Listen in for our

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44:22

Clive Davis: The Business Behind The Golden Ears

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2024/09/23

Please take our annual listener survey here! There's arguably no executive more synonymous with the music business than Clive Davis. His influence still shapes the industry today. From his creative and business balance, to the outlook for newer genres, and the salacious scandals. In today's episode, we break it all down with Zack O'Malley Greenburg, who interviewed Davis years ago for his 2012 autobiography. Hope you enjoy!Sponsors:TIDAL: This episode is brought to you by TIDAL, who are

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1:14

It's Time to Hear From You

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2024/09/20

Can you fill out Trapital's short 5-min annual survey? We want to learn more about you and get your feedback to help make Trapital even better.Trapital has evolved quite a bit. Our newsletter and podcast continue to get great feedback. Our reports and events have become a cornerstone of what we offer to the community.Your survey responses will help shape the topics we cover, events we plan, and the sponsors and partners we include that will be most relevant to you and your businesses.Can you

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37:08

Where Does Drake Go From Here?

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2024/09/16

It's crisis management time for Drake. He's in rare territory right now as his reputation has taken a hit. What should his next moves be? What's realistic and what's not? How did we get to this point in the first place?I'm joined by journalist and author, Sowmya Krishnamurthy. We break down Drake's career and what's ahead for Aubrey Graham. Enjoy!Thank you to our sponsors:Songtrust - Start your music publishing journey todayChartmetric - Providing our Stat of the

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3:27

Trapital Summit: October 3 in Los Angeles

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2024/09/09

A few big updates on our Trapital Summit in LA on October 3! Tickets are available here. Use promo code RUNCIE for a discount.You'll hear from Issa Rae, (writer, producer, actress), Denis Ladegaillerie, (Founder and CEO, Believe), Kakul Srivastava (CEO, Splice), Tunji Balogun (Chairman and CEO, Def Jam), Sherrese Clarke Soares (Founder and CEO, HarbourView Equity Partners), Eliah Seton (CEO, SoundCloud), and Troy Carter (Co-Founder and CEO, Venice Music), Larry Jackson, (Co-Founder and CEO,

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