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Smoke "Em If You Got "Em

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151. YMCA, God's Divine Plan, and the RNC

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2024/07/19

Nancy is in the woods, Sarah is in bed, where she does her best work, when they chat over the phone about the epic spectacle that was this week’s Republican National Convention and the hot mess that is Democratic politics. “God is among us,” Tucker Carlson told the crowd, and the thing is: Nobody can fact-check God. Is it true? Is it false? No one can say. We’re in the realm of belief, and in the days following Trump’s assassination, what’s clear is: People want to believe in him.Also discussed:*

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150. The Biden Apocalypse, Alice Munro's Dark Past

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2024/07/12

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comBiden on the ropes! What’s the over-under on his time in the race? Who might replace him? Sarah and Nancy discuss the political theater of a broken system. What’s the solution? Here’s Nancy: “Let it fucking break, man.” Then, Alice Munro’s daughter reveals family secrets that cast her mother and her writing in a troubling new light.Also discussed:* “Those Australians are so confused”* New word: Parkinsonism* As

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149. America, Fuck Yeah!

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2024/07/03

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThe hustle, the friendliness, the informality, the unshakeable faith that we can be anything we want to be — all while drinking Diet Coke and huffing donuts. Fuck yeah, America! In honor of July 4, Nancy and Sarah celebrate our country’s bounty in the long shadow of all that is wrong. (For example: Presidential debate!) Nancy and Sarah can’t quite decide: Is the American experiment over? Or does our scrappy

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148. Make Sex Great Again

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2024/06/27

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comThe first Trump-Biden debate is hours away, and pundits are predicting along punditry lines (Trump gonna Trump! Biden’s booster-packet will conk out midway!), including the only person to have debated both Trump and Biden opening a “What I’m watching for…” piece by telling us about the new Broadway play she’s producing.But before we get to Hillary Rodham Clinton, we cite some odds out of Vegas, including whether

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147. BRATS! West Coast Liberals + '80s Movie Stars

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2024/06/18

Nancy and Sarah are one-on-one today for a roving conversation that covers: Nancy’s Portland story in a Nicholas Kristof NYT column about West Coast liberalism, a violation of privacy in the latest Free Beacon scoop, and revisiting the Gen X fever that was The Breakfast Club and St. Elmo’s Fire.Also discussed:* Civics Bee!* In defense of plastic straws …* Purple states = the place to be* Keeping the memory of Rachael Abraham alive* West Coast liberalism, so bad even Nicholas Kristof admits it* Who

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146. Mike and Milo Pesca on the "Boy Crisis" and...

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2024/06/13

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com“Boys in crisis.” People write books about it. Melinda Gates just pledged $20 million to study it. Pundits make their bones rolling the phrase around in their mouths. But a crisis according to whom? Who profits when the American Psychological Society claims “traditional masculinity—marked by stoicism, competitiveness, dominance and aggression—is, on the whole, harmful"? And is telling boys they must change, with

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The Slow Leave Taking: On Watching My Mother Slip Away

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2024/06/07

by Nancy RommelmannI’d like to introduce you to my mother. Not the woman I am sitting one foot away from in a Connecticut hospital bed, the skin on her hands as fragile as phyllo dough, the veins showing livid purple and the blue-green of old tattoos. Though it is true, her hands have always been this way.“You have such beautiful big veins,” I recall six-year-old Karen telling my mother. Maybe it was during one of the weekends Karen’s mother and my mother, not yet 33, drove a carful of kids out to

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145. Kat Rosenfield on Women's Right to Shuck...

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2024/06/05

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comOur guest Kat Rosenfield is one of the best cultural critics of our day: Funny, incisive, fast-moving, and a great novelist to boot (see You Must Remember This). She’s a third-timer on this pod, which might be a record, and she’s just landed a plum gig as a columnist for the Free Press. You may know Kat from her podcast Feminine Chaos, with Phoebe Maltz-Bovy, or you may know Kat from Twitter, where she always

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144. GUILTY! Olivia Nuzzi on the Strange Sadness of...

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2024/05/30

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comOlivia Nuzzi is the Washington correspondent for New York Magazine, and a total fox, not that it’s AT ALL relevant to the work she does, which is top-tier. She began her career as a teenager at an alt-weekly in New Jersey and worked on the Anthony Weiner campaign (oh boy), and a story she wrote about that experience brought her to prominence. These days, she’s a rock-star writer with bylines in Politico, GQ,

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143. Magic Wade on Gun Violence, Media Gaslighting,...

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2024/05/27

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comEveryone knows gun violence is a problem, but whose problem, exactly? Big cities or rural areas? Republicans or Democrats? Most people respond to these questions with emotion, best guesses, knee-jerk anger, but our guest Magic Wade responds with data. A professor in Illinois, Wade started the profound 1000 Cities Project on Substack to show that “gun violence isn't merely a ‘red state’ or ‘blue city’ problem

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142. Dirty and Delicious and Not Celibate

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2024/05/20

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comPeople are mad, version five million: A recent anti-celibacy ad on Bumble sparks outrage, a Catholic commencement speaker touting Catholic values sparks outrage, a rap mogul caught enacting violence that rap moguls are only supposed to rap about (not actually do) — well, you see the pattern.Nancy and Sarah find themselves out-shouted by the online hordes of angry social media users, ticked-off feminists,

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141. Ken Ilgunas on How Podcasts Saved Our Lives

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2024/05/16

Ken Ilgunas may be the coolest writer you haven’t heard of yet. Sarah worked with him at Salon, where he wrote personal essays about: living in a van while attending Duke University; camping in the rain at Occupy Wall Street; and hiking the XL Pipeline. He’s since written memoirs about discovering the natural world and himself, including Walden on Wheels. He’s lived in Alaska and now lives in Scotland, but as a boy, he never went hiking, never went hunting, knew nothing of the natural world outside

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140. Andy Mills on How Curiosity Can Save Journalism...

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2024/05/08

You may not recognize Andy Mills’ name, but you likely know his work: He co-created The Daily podcast for The New York Times, where he also produced Rabbit Hole, a fantastic series on the internet, and – quite fatefully! – the war on terror podcast, Caliphate. Shit happened. It was complicated. Andy is no longer at The New York Times. But he’s struck out on his own. Last year he gave us The Witch Trials of JK Rowling, one of 2023’s best podcasts, and now he’s back with a new podcast, Reflector,

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139. Kegels for Peace: The Great Smoke 'Em...

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2024/05/04

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comApril 22, 2022 will go down in the history books — for some reason, surely, though it’s also the date of our first Smoke ‘Em podcast. We celebrate our second year on the books with a pop quiz, some serious giggles, and (of course) Kegels for Peace.

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138. Coleman Hughes and The View of a Better Racial...

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2024/04/30

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comColeman Hughes was still an undergrad at Columbia in 2018 when the Quillette contributor landed a high-profile appearance on Sam Harris’ podcast. Since then, his own podcast Conversations with Coleman — along with his writing on race, tribal politics, and free expression — have made him one of the country’s most important commentators. He’s also a very talented musician and rapper and, as of this year, an

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137. Harvey Weinstein, Interrupted

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2024/04/27

Married journalists Ann McElhinney and Phelim McAleer are the forces behind “The Harvey Weinstein Trial: Unfiltered” podcast, in which actors read daily excerpts of the courthouse testimony verbatim. Released during the trial in 2020, it’s an extraordinary document of a cultural flashpoint, providing a far deeper and more troubling portrait than most media coverage did at the time. Nobody was shocked when Weinstein was slapped with a 23-year sentence, but it seems many people were when that

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136. KC Johnson: What the Hell Just Happened with...

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2024/04/24

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comTitle IX started as a modest part of the Education Amendments of 1972; it was the part that prohibited sex-based discrimination in education programs. In the 50+ years since, it’s become shorthand for many things: Women in sports, a sexual reckoning, a cultural over-correction, a legal shitshow. What no one ever seems to ask is: Why are colleges adjudicating sexual matters between students anyway?Our guest KC

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135. Eli Lake on Campus Protests, Israel, and...

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2024/04/20

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comEli Lake is a longtime journalist, but we know him best for the tremendous “Re-Education With Eli Lake” podcast (Nancy’s #1 pod pick in 2023). Lake has recently become a contributor to the Free Press, where he writes about this world as it explodes. Nancy and Sarah talked with him about the paradox of anarchists attending meetings, why writers can be precious little bitches, the upcoming DNC in Chicago, and how

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134. Michael Moynihan and the Eternal Orgasm (updated)

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2024/04/17

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comMichael Moynihan, FIFTH COLUMN co-host and man about town, joins Nancy and Sarah to discuss The Incomparable Mr. Buckley, the new PBS documentary about conservative firebrand William F. Buckley. They discuss his eloquence, mistakes, and political evolution, and Sarah calls the old Firing Line episodes “a call to civility in a time of chaos.”Also discussed: * Sarah puts her vibrator on time-out* The unfortunate

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133. OJ Simpson and the Crash of Celebrity

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2024/04/11

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit smokeempodcast.substack.comNancy’s still pissed they interrupted the 1994 Rockets-Knicks NBA finals to show the slow-speed OJ Simpson chase on every LA channel, and Sarah is driving through Texas in, yes, a Bronco, as the gals talk OJ Simpson, who died yesterday of cancer at age 76. Where were they heard about the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, and that OJ was the main suspect? What were the factors behind the nation’s

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