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Just us On Justice and Other Things

Dan Jones & Scott Jones

Brothers, Scott and Dan Jones have both worked in the justice system for over 25 years. Their unique perspectives are often paired with remarkable guests they"ve met along the way. On this podcast they will discuss lived experiences, gaps and challenges in systems, stories of resilience and success, trauma informed justice, efforts and ideas to effect change, wellness strategies and much more. The topics, views and opinions discussed on this show are their own and are not representative of the

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71:32

A great visit with Jocelyn McLean

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/11/16

Today we got to have a wonderful visit with Scott’s sister in-law Jocelyn. We talked about Gitxzan, healing, racism and much more. Apologies for the couple of coughs into the mic again!RESOURCES:Edmonton Area Mental Health 24-hour Distress Line: 780-482-4357 (HELP)Alberta Indigenous Mental Health Support 1-888-495-6588 ACRONYMS & DEFINITIONS:Gitxsan: Northern Alberta Indigenous communityEPS: Edmonton Police Service

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60:28

An absolutely Guest-less conversation

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/11/08

Today we spoke about many things Guest-less. Dan had a bit of a residual annoying cough but the conversation meandered around corrections Canada and the issues that are present. We discussed what we can do to make a better system and how the current system is ineffective. Scott discussed his 12 hour walk and that led to the November mens mental health month. Time to change time to heal.RESOURCES:November is Men’s Health Awareness Month and an opportunity to join in healthy, vulnerable conversations

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64:13

A conversation with Jeff Westman

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/11/03

In this episode we discuss police culture, wellness and vulnerability. What it was like to be the first openly gay male in a large police organization. Where we are, where we were and where we should be as justice organizations when it comes to trauma informed, compassion and vulnerabilityRESOURCES:November is Men’s Health Awareness Month and an opportunity to join in healthy, vulnerable conversations to better wellness.Canadian Mental Health Association Distress Line (Edmonton) 780-482-4357Movember

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70:02

Interview with Jay Belland

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2022/10/27

This episode talks about leadership, compassion, growth through stress. Scott corrects Dan as he should in this instance. Poor Folgers’ gets it once again but a huge shoutout to Red Rose.Universal precautions: A methodology for trauma-informed justice by Dan Jones: https://www.journalcswb.ca/index.php/cswb/article/view/194Romeo Dallaire: https://www.romeodallaire.com/ ACRONYMS & DEFINITIONS:SIDS: Sudden Infant Death SyndromeTrauma Sliming: Debriefing that happens without warning or permission, and

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51:42

Snap your head back with Rob Pue

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/10/13

In more of an other things episode we talk with comedian and great guy Rob Pue. We laugh talk a bit about politics and if comedians are really funny! It was a blast! We chat about Marty (Scotty’s brother in law) arrogance and marriage as well!! SOURCES:“A Little Sketchy” TV show article: https://www.ntd.com/ntd-launches-new-comedy-show-a-little-sketchy_768676.html“A Little Sketchy” Episode 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcDaMS5_L-U‘Til You Can’t by Cody Johnson:

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61:44

Interview with Emily

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2022/10/06

***Content Warning, Possibly Triggering, Explicit Content*** Today we talked about Somatic Sex Education. We discussed biases, law and touched on feminist theory. We delved into the concepts of is sex work real work and the construct of choice. We also had a few fun facts about Magpies.RESOURCES:Edmonton Area Mental Health 24-hour Distress Line: 780-482-4357 (HELP)Sexual Assault Centre of Edmonton Support 780-423-4121Alberta’s One Line for Sexual Violence 1-866-403-8000Bedford Decision:

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64:34

Very Guestless

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/09/24

In this episode we meandered around discussing organizational trauma, operational trauma and legitimacy. We also discussed instant coffee and Mc Chickens. We discussed stress wellness and Criss Cross Apple SauceEpisode 12 - Show Notes]RESOURCES:Renee Mitchell: https://www.blueline.ca/psychological-debriefing-are-we-doing-more-harm-than-good-6321/https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/13-renee-mitchell/id1412813382?i=1000445242486Wesley Skogan -

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55:54

Interview with Enyinnah Okere

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2022/09/15

Another unprepared conversation that covered immigration, policing, racism, micro aggression and leadership. It then wound its way to wellness, vulnerability and mens mental health.RESOURCES:Sandra Bucerius & Sara Thompson – When “Soft Security” Is Smart: On the Importance of Building Strong Community – Police Relationships in the Context of National Security:

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61:54

Interview with Andrea Heinz

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2022/09/08

*Trauma Trigger Warning* This episode was an eye opening look at the sex industry and society. We discuss an insider view to licensed and regulated sex work. This was an outstanding discussion that will provide different perspectives on what can be a polarizing topic.RESOURCES:Edmonton Area Mental Health 24-hour Distress Line: 780-482-4357 (HELP)Alberta Indigenous Mental Health Support 1-888-495-6588Sexual Assault Centre of Edmonton Support 780-423-4121Alberta’s One Line for Sexual Violence

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66:51

Interview With Teresa

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/08/31

In this episode Teresa Strong provides a lived experience monologue that touches on trauma, resilience, survival and compassion. This is followed by an excellent discussion between the three. Teresa is raw, vulnerable and witty.Episode 9 - Show Notes]RESOURCES:Edmonton Area Mental Health 24-hour Distress Line: 780-482-4357 (HELP)Alberta Indigenous Mental Health Support 1-888-495-6588Sexual Assault Centre of Edmonton Support 780-423-4121Alberta’s One Line for Sexual Violence 1-866-403-8000ACRONYMS

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40:56

Just us In Gitxsan

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/08/20

While at the Gitxsan Nation at Scott’s brother in law’s wedding, we sat by the River and had a chat. We talked about retirement, wellness, systems, organizational vs operational stress, anxiety responses and what our futures look like. We had a flyby from a bald eagle and an amazing view that will eventually make it to our Insta page.[Episode 8 - Show Notes]RESOURCESBook: How to Retire Happy, Wild and Free by Ernie J. ZelinskACRONYMS & DEFINITIONSRisk to abscond - The increased risk to harm

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58:38

Interview with Jodi Calahoo Stonehouse

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/08/12

Jodi Calahoo Stonehouse is Cree and Mohawk from Michel First Nation. She is a police commissioner and a provincial NDP candidate. She and Dan have been connected friends for years and her relationship with Scott is new and blossoming. We touch on so much from Justice, Over-Incarceration, Wellness, Culture and so much more. We hope you find it as enjoyable as we did.RESOURCES:Edmonton Area Mental Health 24-hour Distress Line: 780-482-4357 (HELP)Alberta Indigenous Mental Health Support

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72:14

The interview with Myrna McCallum “The Trauma...

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/07/26

*Trauma Trigger Warning*In this episode we get to spend some time with Myrna McCallum who is amazing. She is inspirational and amazing. RESOURCES:Edmonton Area Mental Health 24-hour Distress Line: 780-482-4357 (HELP)Alberta Indigenous Mental Health Support 1-888-495-6588Gladue Decision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_GladueDr. Ivan Zinger Correctional Investigator’s Report: https://www.oci-bec.gc.ca/cnt/comm/press/press20220208-eng.aspxHarold R. Johnson:

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60:47

Just a chat with Scott and Dan (a case of unexpected...

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/07/14

Todays PodCast was an unexpected guestless chat. Due to unforeseen circumstances our guest was unavailable. So we just had a chat. We spoke about wellness, resilience, trauma and meandered around about much more. RESOURCES:ACES: www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/aces/index.htmlUniversity of Alberta Prison Project: www.canadiancriminology.com/projects/uappDr Caroline Angel - https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-meyer-angel-a3623316/Harold Johnson – Book: In Peace and Good OrderHarold Johnson – Podcast:

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69:35

Interview with Art

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/07/06

Explicit Content* This is a great episode with our first real guest, Art Ladoucer. We talk about the justice system, compassion and trauma informed justice, film school and reminisce about high school and being friends in prison when one is inside and the other is a Correctional Office. We get a little excited and say a few swears so there is some language issues hence the warning.

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41:25

The Interview With Scott!

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/06/15

In Episode 3 Dan interviews Scott. We talk about trauma, policing, yoga, and so much more.

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40:45

The Interview With Dan!

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/06/03

In the first full episode Scott interviews his brother Dan to help the listener understand who your podcasters are. They talk about everything from career, trauma and even pyjamas. The next episode will feature Dan interviewing

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2:25

Introduction to the Just Us on Justice & Other Things...

Just us On Justice and Other Things ·

2022/05/01

A quick intro on our new podcast

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