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The Modern Therapist"s Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

Curt Widhalm, LMFT and Katie Vernoy, LMFT

The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide: Where Therapists Live, Breathe, and Practice as Human Beings It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when clinicians must develop a personal brand to market their private practices, and are connecting over social media, engaging in social activism, pushing back against mental health stigma, and facing a whole

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Two Years In: Is 988 Actually Helping People Facing...

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2024/07/15

Two Years In: Is 988 Actually Helping People Facing Mental Health Crises?Curt and Katie check back with the now two-year-old program and identify what’s working and what’s not with the crisis hotline. There is data that it is 98% but there are also concerns that have been raised. We look at reports of data sharing without transparency, increases in police involvement and involuntary hospitalization, and inconsistently (and potentially inadequately) trained hotline workers. We also explore what

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42:41

Don’t Let TikTok Fool You – Being a Therapist is Hard...

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2024/07/08

Don’t Let TikTok Fool You – Being a Therapist is Hard Work: An interview with Sandra Kushnir, LMFT and Anita Avedian, LMFTCurt and Katie interview Sandra Kushner and Anita Avedian about how the therapy business works now. We talk about how the profession and those who are entering it has changed over the years. We look at what new therapists can expect when they join a group practice, pushing back against some of the broadly held misconceptions of what it is like to be a therapist

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38:56

No Cap: It’s Time to Glow Up Your Teen Therapy Skills

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2024/07/01

No Cap: It’s Time to Glow Up Your Teen Therapy SkillsCurt and Katie chat about how to work effectively with teen clients. We look at what adults often get wrong about teens as well as how therapists can develop real relationships with their teen clients. We also look at the differences that can show up in how you do therapy with teens. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode we talk about effective therapy with teenaged clients Curt and Katie have

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69:39

More Than Cogs in the Machine: Bringing...

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2024/06/24

More Than Cogs in the Machine: Bringing trauma-informed principles into the workplaceCurt and Katie chat about trauma-informed workplaces. We explore what a trauma informed workplace is, why it is important to implement, and how best to do so. We also explore some practical challenges to creating a trauma-informed workplace and ideas for how to handle these challenges. This is a continuing education podcourse. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast

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39:05

Pursuing Happiness as a Therapist: An interview with...

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2024/06/17

Pursuing Happiness as a Therapist: An interview with Stevon Lewis, LMFT Curt and Katie interview Stevon Lewis, LMFT, about how he makes his career more sustainable. We look at his current philosophies around low effort, alignment, and fun. We also explore how he was able to initially able temper his expectations, work through misaligned paths, and pivot when needed. Finally, we talk about what it looks like behind the scenes to pursue a number of different revenue and marketing streams. Transcripts

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39:01

On The Move: How Run Walk Talk Therapy Reshapes...

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2024/06/10

On The Move: How Run Walk Talk Therapy Reshapes Mental Health An interview with Sepideh Saremi, LCSWCurt and Katie interview Sepideh Saremi, LCSW, on her therapy model, Run Walk Talk. We look at the practicalities and clinical benefit of including movement (specifically running and walking) in therapy. We talk about the principles of movement as method, movement as modulator, and movement as metaphor. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode, we

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32:43

What Can Therapists Do About the Loneliness Epidemic?

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2024/06/03

What Can Therapists Do About the Loneliness Epidemic? Curt and Katie chat about loneliness as a presenting problem in therapy. We explore the misconceptions about loneliness and how therapists often go to fix the problem rather than understand the problem. We also look at the clinical considerations, including gender differences, the impact of Covid-19, and the changes in how people socialize. Finally, we identify treatment strategies to support individuals struggling with loneliness. Transcripts

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67:14

When Doing “No Harm” Isn’t Good Enough: Bringing...

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2024/05/27

When Doing “No Harm” Isn’t Good Enough: Bringing beneficence to your clients Curt and Katie chat about ethics again. We look at how therapists decide what is beneficial for clients. We also contrast the concept of “beneficence” (doing good) versus “nonmaleficence” (doing no harm). We specifically explore how to identify when something is in the therapist’s interest versus the client’s interest as well as what therapists can do when clients hold harmful, untrue beliefs. This is a law and ethics

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41:13

Is Seeking an “Abundance Mindset” Toxic?

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2024/05/20

Is Seeking an “Abundance Mindset” Toxic?Curt and Katie chat about abundance and scarcity mindsets, looking at what the research actually says about these often-used terms. We explore the dangers of how the abundance mindset is often weaponized against entrepreneurs (like private practitioners) in how they think and how much they should pay for coaching services. We also look at the role of privilege in how these mindsets are often talked about. Finally, we explore what might be better to focus on

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41:55

How to Navigate Shifts in the Mental Health Field and...

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2024/05/13

How to Navigate Shifts in the Mental Health Field and Your Career Path: An interview with Dr. Melvin Varghese Curt and Katie interview Dr. Melvin Varghese about how he’s navigated his career path. We look at a life changing event that helped him to get perspective on what is most important to him. We also explore practicalities of prioritizing personal life as an entrepreneur. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode, we talk about how to prioritize

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36:16

Are Therapy and Coaching All That Different?

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2024/05/06

Are Therapy and Coaching All That Different? Curt and Katie chat about the differences between coaching and therapy, for a second time. We look at some common myths (and how coaches continue to share this misinformation). We also look at how therapists can effectively incorporate coaching into their therapy sessions, with client consent. Finally, we discuss the challenges inherent in coaching and in therapy, and why therapists may feel they need to choose one or the other. Transcripts for this

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Are You Too Burned Out to Work? An ethical assessment...

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2024/04/29

Are You Too Burned Out to Work? An ethical assessment of therapist burnout and impairmentCurt and Katie chat about the ethics of working while burned out. We look at what burnout is, how it develops and what the impacts are on clients and treatment outcomes. We also explore individual and systemic strategies to mitigate the risks of burnout. This is a law and ethics continuing education podcourse. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode we talk

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42:04

What Therapists Need to Know About Menopause and...

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2024/04/22

What Therapists Need to Know About Menopause and Perimenopause: An interview with Dr. Sharon Malone, MD Curt and Katie interview Dr. Sharon Malone, MD, author of Grown Woman Talk, about menopause and perimenopause. We explore the mental health impacts as well as the differential diagnosis when assessing a woman over 40 who might be experiencing this phase of life. We also talk about what good treatment can look like, including discussing the debate about hormone therapies. Transcripts for this

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Conscious and Trauma-Informed Leadership: An...

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2024/04/15

Conscious and Trauma-Informed Leadership: An interview with Kelly L. CampbellCurt and Katie interview Kelly Campbell about her work with leaders. We explore the ways in which trauma can impact leaders, their teams, and their organizations. We also look at what trauma-informed leadership coaching can look like, including overarching goals for trauma-informed and high conscious leadership. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode, we explore

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39:09

Is It Worth It? Analyzing return on investment for...

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2024/04/08

Is It Worth It? Analyzing return on investment for your therapy practiceCurt and Katie chat about different types of return on investment (ROI) for a therapist in private practice. We look at what therapists often get wrong when deciding how to invest their time, money, or energy. We also give some ideas of what can be more effective in getting the highest ROI (of all types) for your therapy business and career. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast

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38:53

Don’t Forget to Pay Yourself and Other Money Planning...

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2024/04/01

Don’t Forget to Pay Yourself and Other Money Planning Strategies: An interview with Carla TitusCurt and Katie interview Carla Titus, Fractional CFO about what therapists get wrong when budgeting for their private practice. We explore financial strategies to maintain a viable business as well as how you can grow your business responsibly. We talk about making sure to pay yourself first, then set up a rainy-day fund, and follow that with saving additional extra funds for hiring or new services before

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An Expert Witness Weighs in on Therapist Malpractice:...

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2024/03/25

An Expert Witness Weighs in on Therapist Malpractice: An interview with Dr. Frederic ReamerCurt and Katie interview Dr. Frederic Reamer about his perspective as an expert witness opining on therapist conduct. We talk about the three types of cases he sees (mistakes, challenging decisions, and misconduct) as well as what therapists can do to protect and set themselves up for success. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast.com! In this podcast episode, we share an expert

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36:00

Are You Burned Out or Are You Bored?

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2024/03/18

Are You Burned Out or Are You Bored?Curt and Katie chat about another type of burnout, “bore out.” We explore the difference between burnout and boredom. We talk about what might be unique to therapists’ jobs that would lead to boredom. We also dig into how dissociation can show up as either burnout or boredom. Finally, we share ideas on how modern therapists can mitigate some of the impacts of burnout, boredom, and vicarious trauma. Transcripts for this episode will be available at

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39:43

Seeking Purpose Beyond Accomplishment: An interview...

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2024/03/11

Seeking Purpose Beyond Accomplishment: An interview with Kasey ComptonCurt and Katie interview Kasey Compton, LPCC, on her new book, In Search of You. We explore her journey of healing and what it was like to put that healing into a public space. We also talk about Kasey’s challenges with being bullied in her home town due to the choices she has made (getting divorced and then choosing a same-sex relationship) and how her “hard head” has helped her to get through it all. She also shares some ideas

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39:39

When Your Clients are Wealthy and Well Known: An...

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2024/03/04

When Your Clients are Wealthy and Well Known: An interview with Dr. Holly Daniels, LMFTCurt and Katie interview Dr. Holly Daniels about working with high profile clients. We talk about the lifestyle factors (like isolation and dehumanization) that come with celebrity as well as the differences when working with famous and powerful people who bring in more common concerns like relationship challenges. We also explore the skills and trustworthiness required to be able to succeed with these

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