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Whatever Comes Next with Tom Osman

Getting to know the music makers out on the fringes

On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more. tomosman.substack.com

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Episode 26: Gregory Jacobsen (Lovely Little Girls)

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2024/07/02

While some fans might know Gregory Jacobsen best for his funny cat paintings, this is only one small sliver of Gregory's art (visual and musical). Avant-rock group Lovely Little Girls (the band Gregory has fronted for more than 20 years) is often a vehicle for some of the darker aspects of the vocalist and lyricist's psyche — and it's the band that we're largely focussed on today. We discuss Lovely Little Girls' latest record Effusive Supreme (out last year on SKiN GRAFT Records) and how the band

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Episode 25: APES

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2024/06/25

Canadian, extreme-metal unit APES just put out their second full-length record, Penitence, on Secret Swarm Records — with the band finding new ways to fulfil their mission statement of being heavy and relentless. I caught up with drummer Gabriel D’Amours to discuss the latest record, the history of the band and how Gabriel keeps his life centred around music. Band photo courtesy of Tom Morin Closing track: "Shadow Walker" from Penitence (Secret Swarm Records, 2024) Thanks for reading (and listening

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Episode 24: Tommy Meehan (Squid Pisser, GWAR, Cancer...

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2024/06/18

Tommy Meehan is a man on a mission to follow the DIY-music-making dream. One of his more recent musical projects Squid Pisser just put out their latest, great, bizarre, head-spinning, glitch-punk-metal album Dreams of Puke (SKiN GRAFT Records). Tommy joined me to talk about the band, the album and how it was put together — as well as the equally wonderful and bizarre artwork (by artist/ musician Gregory Jacobsen). We talk about how Tommy ended up joining his childhood heroes GWAR, his record label

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Episode 23: Olivia Rose (Oh, Rose)

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2024/06/11

Indie-rock-pop group Oh, Rose released their debut EP That Do Now See in 2014. With a ten-year-anniversary reissue coming out this Thursday on Antiquated Future Records, alongside "The Call", the latest single from their forthcoming album Dorothy, songwriter and vocalist Olivia Rose joins the show. She talks about her musical background growing up in Asheville, North Carolina, moving to Olympia, Washington, some of the history of Oh, Rose, the personal story behind the "While My Father Sleeps"

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Episode 22: E

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2024/06/04

Thalia Zedek (Come, Live Skull), Jason Sanford (Neptune) and newest member, drummer/ saxophonist Ernie Kim, are E. With their great, latest record Living Waters released in April on Silver Rocket, the band is about to embark on a North American and European tour. Thalia, Jason and Ernie discuss tours, recording, the making of and meaning in Living Waters, some of Thalia's other musical projects, why they make music and more. This interview originally appeared in a shorter web version for New Noise

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Episode 21: Necrot

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2024/05/28

Oakland, California's death-metal trio Necrot is a band that lives to be out on the road. Having recently released their powerful latest album, Lifeless Birth on Tankcrimes, the band is poised to set off on another North American tour.Vocalist and bassist Luca Indrio discusses some of the trials and tribulations the band went through leading up to the making of the record and how the global pandemic ended up giving the band a much-needed pause that they otherwise wouldn’t have had. The Necrot

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Episode 20: Gravehuffer

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2024/05/21

Joplan, Missouri's Gravehuffer play what I like to call "Psychedelic Heavy Metal Monster Music". That's my best attempt at describing this unique and adventurous band, comprising vocalist Travis McKenzie, guitarist Ritchie Randall, bass player Mike Jilge and newest edition, drummer Wes McNeely. Ritchie, Mike and Wes join the show to share their tales of life in a DIY band, booking tours, travelling the country, building relationships, strange crowds, dangerous roads, sponsorships, the importance of

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Episode 19: Fabien W. Furter (Death W***e, Wheelfall)

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2024/05/14

Although Fabien W. Furter didn’t know it before our interview, both he and Steve Albini are significant to the genesis of this podcast. Before starting Whatever Comes Next I decided that I’m going to write a book about DIY music making. Part of my initial idea was to spend some time with several people involved in DIY music scenes around the world. When I was thinking of who would be great subjects for this project, Fabien was one of the first people I thought of. As well as being a great admirer of

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Episode 18: Neezy Dynamite (FOX MEDICINE)

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2024/05/07

Neezy Dynamite is one half of bubblegum-doom duo FOX MEDICINE — a band with their own unique sound (and a taste for the caps lock).What is bubblegum doom, you ask? Well, if you’ve already heard the band, you don’t ask (you already know) and if you haven’t, I’ll let Neezy put it in her own words. In any case, the band is something different and a lot of that can be put down to Neezy, with FOX MEDICINE being an extension of her colourful personality. As well as being a great guest, Neezy has a hand

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Episode 17: Matt Cronk (CNTS, Qui)

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2024/04/30

[A shorter print version of this interview first appeared online at New Noise Magazine - you can read it here]Although a minor spelling adjustment has helped LA-punk-rockers CNTS avoid falling foul of online algorithms, it makes little difference when referring to the band out loud. Therefore, welcome to the sweariest episode yet of Whatever Comes Next.So hold onto your hats — and if you need to, clutch your pearls. Matt Cronk is the frontman of said CNTS and boy, has he been through some tough

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Episode 16: ATER

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2024/04/23

ATER is an extreme metal group from Chile, combining a love of Meshuggah with other elements like black metal to create a unique sound. Their latest record Somber is out now.I spoke with founder, bassist, vocalist, producer and sole constant of the band Fernando “Feroz” Bühring to learn more about this crushing sound that he’s created with the band. I’ve had a lot of fun listening to the record and I had a lot of fun talking with Fernando. Go check out Somber on streaming platforms, their music

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Episode 15: Dolly Dagger

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2024/04/16

Dolly Dagger is an antipodean abroad (we get around). Based in LA, Dolly and her band are carving out their own little space in the indie-rock landscape of LA. Anyone who’s spent a minute checking out Dolly’s Instagram (@dollydagger_xo) will immediately see the commitment to engage with fans and really create a community around the band and the music. Out last week, “Tower” is the latest single, featuring some great lead guitar and drumming alongside the star of the show: Dolly’s powerful singing

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Episode 14: Brother Dege

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2024/04/09

Back in March the writer and performer Brother Dege released Aurora, an album evocative of his home town of Lafayette, Louisiana. It’s a beautiful album, rich in emotion, exploring the cycle of romance, break up and its impacts. Sadly, just weeks after this conversation, and days before the release of the album, Dege died. His backing band The Brethren and record label Prophecy Productions released the following statements.“Our hearts are heavy as we mourn the loss of our Brother, Dege Legg. Thank

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Episode 13: Del Judas

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2024/04/02

Del Judas has quite an eclectic musical story by anyone’s standards. One-time extreme metal drummer, crooner by day, country-goth artist, now having released something separate from all of these elements, new single “Angela”. I was drawn right in by “Angela” on the first listen and intrigued by the shift in tone from the significantly darker debut album Deity. How often do you come across an artist that can be compared in various moments to Chris Isaak, Roy Orbison, Bauhaus, The Cure and Scott

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Episode 12: Bill Kielty (O ZORN!)

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2024/03/26

O ZORN! has been described as post-metal, sludge metal, doom metal, but I’m not one for putting bands in boxes (when I can avoid it), so let’s just say O ZORN! is dark. That’s certainly a suitable descriptor of the band’s latest record Vermillion Haze. The band’s frontman, songwriter and driving force Bill Kielty and I discuss the events leading up to the making of the album and as you’ll hear plenty was going on that would explain the mournful tone of the record. I only have one regret from this

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Episode 11: Songs for Sabotage

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2024/03/19

Lina Sophie & Richey Rose first met in November 2017 in NYC and discovered a shared love of indie-rock bands from the UK like Suede, Manic Street Preachers and The Cure. Forming Songs for Sabotage, the duo’s first album Night of Joy drew from these guitar-centred sources, with splashes of the pop sensibilities of bands like Roxette. Having dubbed their debut their “New York album”, the pair decided to relocate to LA in the midst of the global Covid pandemic, where they completed what would become

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Episode 10: Prisoner

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2024/03/12

Prisoner are a hard band to put into a neat box. The Richmond, Virginia five-piece could be described as sludge metal, crust punk, industrial metal and more besides. What can be said with certainly is that the band’s forthcoming album Putrid / Obsolete makes for a convincing soundtrack to a world going up in flames. As heavy in mood as it is sonically, you might expect (after listening to these raging blasts of intensity) that the makers of this music would be similarly intense and intimidating

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Episode 9: Author Jason Lamb and John Wright of...

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2024/03/05

Victoria, Canada’s NoMeansNo is a band that the average person on the street might not recognise, but their favourite band probably does. In fact NoMeansNo might be their favourite band’s favourite band.Formed in 1979 by brothers John and Rob Wright, NoMeansNo carved out their own bass-and-drum-heavy strain of jazz-infused punk rock for over three decades, before finally putting the band to rest in 2016. Wilfully obscure and surrealist when it came to promos and bios, NoMeansNo developed a certain

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Episode 8: King Yosef

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2024/02/27

King Yosef makes dark, industrial music. If you’re a child of the 90s like me, you might take Nine Inch Nails as a jumping-off point, but that’s only one aspect. Let’s just say the music is intense, often abrasive, but catchy too. It would fit right in in a rock club, you could listen to it in the gym, or going for a run, sometimes you could even dance to it.Yosef has navigated his way through the music business without any label backing, manager or agent, to the point where he’s just returned from

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Episode 7: Timo Silvola of Barren Womb

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2024/02/20

Guitarist/ vocalist Tony Gonzalez and drummer/ vocalist Timo Silvola formed Barren Womb back in 2011. Since then the duo has released five full-length records, the latest being Chemical Tardigrade (F*****g North Pole Records/ Blues For The Red Sun). A band with a social conscience, Barren Womb layers its societal critiques in absurdist humour (and no small amount of abrasive, guitar-driven rock). The music is in your face, sounding as crazed as a barrel-load of ferrets rolling down a mountain. Timo

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