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The Integrated Schools Podcast

Andrew Lefkowits, Val Brown, Courtney Mykytyn

Hosts, Andrew, a White dad from Denver, and, Val, a Black mom from North Carolina, dig into topics about race, parenting, and school segregation. With a variety of guests ranging from parents to experts, these conversations strive to live in the nuance of a complicated topic.

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All Episodes

32:09

The Debrief: Carol Anderson on White Rage

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2022/03/30

Last episode, Carol Anderson on White Rage, was a lot, so we're taking today's episode to discuss. LINKS: White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Nation’s Divide We Are Not Yet Equal – a young readers version of White Rage One Person, No Vote: How Voter Suppression is Destroying Our Democracy The Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America. Eye’s Off The Prize – Dr. Anderson’s 2003 book on the shift from a fight for human rights to civil rights at the NAACP Use these links or start at

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67:48

Carol Anderson on White Rage

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2022/03/16

"Since the days of enslavement, African Americans have fought to gain access to quality education. Education can be transformative. It reshapes the health outcomes of a people; it breaks the cycle of poverty; it improves housing conditions; it raises the standard of living. Perhaps, most meaningfully, educational attainment significantly increases voter participation. In short, education strengthens a democracy." Dr. Carol Anderson is the Charles Howard Candler Professor of African American Studies

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55:56

A Framework for Antiracist Education

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2022/03/02

Founded in 2021, the Center for Antiracist Education’s (CARE) mission is to equip antiracist educators with the knowledge and curriculum to create schools and classrooms that push back on the destructive legacy of racism. Our co-host Val, serves as their academic director in her day job. They recently released a framework for antiracist education that provides teachers and school leaders with concrete, actionable steps to take in their journey towards being antiracist. These steps are organized by

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64:52

An Overdue Reckoning on Indigenous Education

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2022/02/16

We keep a running list of ideas for episodes - topics to cover, guests we'd like to interview, conversations with parents we'd like to have - and near the top of that list, for far longer than we'd care to admit, has been a conversation about Native and Indigenous education. Finding the right voices to tell the right stories is always a challenge, but, if we're being honest, it felt somehow acceptable that we hadn't gotten to it yet. The conversation we haver to share today completely changed that

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66:49

Revisiting Heather McGhee on How Racism Hurts Us All

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2022/02/08

Heather McGhee has been in public policy for the past 20 years, largely focused on economics. After nearly 16 years at Demos, a "think-and-do" tank, including four years as president, she realized that despite incredibly compelling economic research, at times, decision makers made decisions counter to what the best evidence showed. She took a leave of absence as president, and embarked on a journey to try to answer a simple question - Why can't we have nice things? We, being all Americans, and nice

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57:41

Parenting for Racial Justice

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2022/02/02

Angela Berkfield, a White woman living in Brattleboro, Vermont, was deeply committed to social justice. In 2013, she was a co-founder of The Root Social Justice Center, a hub for social justice organizing in Vermont. From food insecurity, to youth empowerment, they have been focused on racial justice organizing, community advocacy, and relationship building for nearly a decade. In 2014, a friend of Angela’s, Annique, asked her if she would be willing to do trainings for parents about how to talk

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55:19

Year End: Listener Questions

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/12/15

Listeners regularly reach out with questions - things that they are seeing in their own neighborhoods, things that we haven't addressed, but should, etc. For the final episode of 2021, we thought we'd answer as many as we could. Thank you to everyone who sent in questions. If we didn't get to your question, or if there is something else on your mind, let us know so we can include it in a future "mailbag" episode - hello@integratedschools.org. As we enter the holiday season and folks are thinking

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50:08

Teacher Check-In Revisited

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/12/01

Back in April of 2020 we had a conversation with two teachers, Kara in the Minneapolis area, and Zoe in Philadelphia. They shared their struggles with shifting to remote school, trying to reach their students to provide devices, hot spots, and food, and the challenge of supporting the students with the greatest needs through the early days of the COVID crisis. Today, it's easy for parents to feel like things are almost back to normal in schools. However, in many ways, teachers are feeling the cost

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57:26

Not Your Model Minority

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/11/17

Dr. Sarah-Soonling Blackburn is an educator, speaker, and professional development specialist. Growing up in a mixed race, Asian and White family, and spending most of her childhood in various countries in Asia, ideas of belonging have always had salience for her. From the classroom to Learning for Justice, her work has focused on the things that help students feel seen and included. She joins us to discuss the myth of the Model Minority and helps contextualize the role of Asian American identities

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59:01

Redrawing the Lines: Undoing the History of Segregation

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/11/03

If you think about a "segregated school", what image comes to mind? Quite often, the cultural narrative says that that is a school with almost exclusively students of color. What about a school with 98% White students? Is that a "segregated school"? While we don't often think of it that way, it is clearly segregated. Tomás Monarrez is an economist by training. As he was studying the question of school and housing segregation at the Urban Institute, he was struck by the ways that the field of

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59:33

Generational Work: Stefan Lallinger on Integration

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/10/20

In 1954, Louis Redding, Delaware's first Black attorney, joined the legal team at the NAACP to argue the Brown v Board case. Having agued two of the lower court cases that were incorporated into the Brown case, he was a key member of the team, along with Thurgood Marshall, who won perhaps the mostly widely known and celebrated court case ever. Sixty years later, his grandson, Stefan Lallinger, found himself teaching at school in New Orleans with over 90% students of color. This segregation wasn't

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60:20

Moving and Choosing A School

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/10/06

The very first episode of the Integrated Schools Podcast featured a conversation between our late founder, Courtney Mykytyn, and two mothers who were early in their journeys toward anti-racist school integration. Since then, Anna and Sarah have continued to be influential members of the Integrated Schools community, and both found themselves moving over the past 18 months. While both of their families had moved in the past, this was the first time they engaged in that process with a deep commitment

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33:22

New Season, New Perspectives . . . New Co-Host!!

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/09/22

In 2016, Val Brown recognized a silence in the education community regarding issues of race, and a gap in learning opportunities for educators. In response she founded #ClearTheAir, a platform for educators to learn about the intersections of history, racism, and education. In 2019, she reached out to Integrated Schools to see if we might walk this road towards anti-racist school integration together. However, she had a question - as a Black mom, she asked, "do I belong at Integrated Schools? Is

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71:47

Learning In Public with Courtney Martin

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/08/04

---SPECIAL NOTE --- If you enjoyed this conversation, a wonderful artist in the Bay Area, named Jen Bloomer, has created a piece of art inspired by Learning in Public. It's beautiful and she has generously offered to donate the proceeds from sales to Integrated Schools. Please check it out and support a wonderful artist and our organization. ------------------ From the time Courtney Martin strapped her daughter, Maya, to her chest for walks around her neighborhood, she was curious about Emerson

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55:10

Reckoning with Plessy: 125 Years of Separate But Equal

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/05/26

One hundred and twenty five years ago this week, The Supreme Court announced its decision in the case of Plessy v Ferguson. The case infamously declared that separate but equal was constitutional. The setting for the case was a train car, but the ramifications on society were profound. And while the Brown v Board decision 63 years later did away with some of those ramifications, in many ways, Plessy remains with us today. Coming in the wake of the civil war, the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments make

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54:39

BvB@67- Greg and Carol Revisited

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/05/14

In the fifth episode in our Brown v. Board at 67: The Stories We Tell Ourselves series, we step away from scholarship to take a moment to listen. I Hope They Hear it in Our Voices is a conversation with two Black parents who live in different parts of the U.S. and who have had very different -- yet very similar -- school experiences. Greg and Carol tell us a lot about how far we have come since Brown v. Board, about how much work we still have to do, and the very real costs of “access to resources”

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44:43

BvB@67 - David Hinojosa Revisted

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/05/13

For the fourth episode in our Brown v. Board at 67: The Stories We Tell Ourselves series, we talk with Civil Rights attorney David Hinojosa. School segregation is too often painted as binary issue between Black and White people; learning other histories shows that this is far from true. Complicating the picture of what preceded and came as a result of Brown v. Board, Mr. Hinojosa shares a history lesson on the segregation of Latinx communities across the US since the late 1800s. We discuss the

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46:23

BvB@67 - Amanda Lewis Revisited

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/05/12

Dr. Amanda Lewis (Despite the Best Intentions: How Racial Inequality Thrives in Good Schools, co-authored with John Diamond) joins us for this third episode of our Brown v. Board at 67: The Stories We Tell Ourselves series. Dr. Lewis’s research takes her to a school that is desegregated on paper but segregated within the building. It is a school, like many, with “race neutral” policies that hide the very real racialized practices in the building. Add to that a dose of opportunity hoarding, and

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38:40

BvB@67 - Noliwe Rooks Revisited

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/05/11

For the second episode in our Brown v. Board at 67: The Stories We Tell Ourselves series, we talk with Dr. Noliwe Rooks (Cornell). Her book, Cutting School: Privatization, Segregation, and the End of Public Education, as well as some of her more recent research around the pushback to school desegregation from communities of color and the decimation of the Black teaching corps following Brown v. Board, provide context in which to understand the full range of outcomes from the court decision. While

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36:16

BvB@67 - Rucker Johnson Revisited

The Integrated Schools Podcast ·

2021/05/10

As we approach the 67th anniversary of the landmark Supreme Court case, Brown v. Board of Education (1954), we are revisiting our series looking at the stories we tell ourselves about Brown v. Board. The way we understand this case and its legacies do the work of making sense of our past and mapping out our future. In this first episode, we are joined by Dr. Rucker Johnson (UC Berkeley). Dr. Johnson shares some of the research and findings in his book, Children of the Dream: Why School Integration

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