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The Other 22 Hours

Michaela Anne, Aaron Shafer-Haiss

"Artistry flourishes in shared conversation." Everyone struggles with self-doubt and motivation in their careers. The Other 22 Hours Podcast features conversations with renowned musicians and artists, sharing tools for resilience, helping you feel more inspired, connected, and confident in your creative journey. Hosted by music producer Aaron Shafer-Haiss, and singer-songwriter Michaela Anne, these are artist-lead conversations - not your typical outsider journalist interviews.

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00:49:23

The Secret Sisters on leveling out, non-linear...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/05/22

The Secret Sisters are a Grammy-nominated (sister) duo from Alabama who have put out 5 records, and navigated a rollercoaster of highs and lows from being signed to Universal records and produced by T Bone Burnett, getting dropped, to lawsuits with a manager, bankruptcy, opening for (and being produced by) Brandi Carlisle, and onto a Grammy nomination. We talk about that ride, the lessons learned and experience earned, motherhood, doing the hard internal work and how that improves your creativity,

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00:49:00

The Brother Brothers on authenticity, autonomy and...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/05/15

The Brother Brothers are identical twins who have released 5 records together, as well as touring/collaborating with Courtney Marie Andrews, Lake Street Dive, Big Thief, Sarah Jarosz, Keb Mo and being part of the early incarnations of Hadestown the musical. We chat with them about how authenticity lasts in this industry, the theory that everyone (musician/artist) just needs autonomy and validation, following the momentum, economics, and we share some good old tour horror stories.Get more access and

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01:03:34

Guster on running toward fear, trying to fail, and...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/05/08

Guster formed in 1991, and has since released 9 records, had a Top 40 hit, a gold record, played Woodstock 99, started the label Ocho Mule, and is still growing today. We sat down with lead singer Ryan Miller, who is also a film composer, sometimes writer for The Atlantic, budding Broadway composer/writer and a former host on Vermont Public TV. We talk with Ryan about managing so many spinning plates, running towards fear, parallels between a music career and entrepreneurship (iterating, failing,

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00:46:02

Rissi Palmer on the year of no, speaking for the...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/05/01

Rissi Palmer signed her first record deal at 19, with her debut in 2007 she was the first black woman to make the country music charts in over 2 decades, she has toured with the likes of Taylor Swift, and the Eagles, appeared on Oprah, Good Morning America, at the White House, the Grand Ole Opry, and Lincoln Center, is the host of Apple Music's 'Color Me Country', and the director of the Color Me Country Artist Grant Fund. We talk about one of our favorite topics - saying no, prioritizing self care,

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00:41:25

Ana Egge on co-writing with your dreams, meditation...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/04/24

Ana Egge - who Lucinda Williams calls 'the folk music Nina Simone' - has released 13+ records, starting with her first in 1994, and including some produced by Steve Earle, is a luthier, and has toured with John Prine, Shawn Colvin, Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Ron Sexmith, Lucinda, and Iris Dement amongst others. In one of our more intriguingly esoteric conversations, we talk a lot about meditation practice and how that influences your creativity and approach to your career as a whole, as well as how Ana

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00:50:45

Larry Campbell & Teresa Williams on finding the joy,...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/04/17

Larry Campbell and Teresa Williams have released 4 albums as a duo, and were members of Levon Helm's band for over a decade, but the married couple also have a long musical history prior to becoming a formal duo. In addition to producing Levon's later career Grammy-winning records, Larry has played with Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Elvis Costello, Emmylou Harris, Judy Collins, Willie Nelson, Shania Twain, and Tracy Chapman, to name a few. We have a great conversation about being in it for the joy of

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00:48:44

Morgxn on when not to quit, transparency, and farming.

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/04/10

Morgxn is an indie-pop artist born and raised in Nashville who has had songs on the top 10 Billboard alternative charts, that Billie Eilish has personally named as inspiration, he has songs featuring Sara Bareilles, and has performed at Lollapalooza, Bumbershoot, on Jimmy Kimmel and more. We talk with Morgxn about the struggles of being in an industry that do a whole lot to actively support artists, the work it can take to break through imposter syndrome and identify as an artist, when not to quit,

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01:17:46

Steve Poltz on life as a treasure hunt, creating your...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/04/03

Over the last 30+ years Steve Poltz has released more than 14 records both solo and with his 90's band The Rugburns, on his own label as well as Mercury Records, as well as a longtime collaboration with Jewell including co-writing her hit "You Were Meant for Me." We talk with Steve about everything from having a stroke on stage, mid-song (and continuing to sing the song), all the way to viewing life as a treasure hunt, slaying the dragons, his infectious positivity and optimism, and getting pinned

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00:57:35

Sierra Hull on nature vs nurture, disappointment as...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/03/27

Sierra Hull is the definition of child prodigy - she made her Grand Ole Opry debut at 10, played Carnegie Hall at 12, and signed her first record deal at 13. She has since gone on to become the first woman to win IBMA Mandolinist of the year (3x in a row), be nominated for a Grammy, perform with Garth Brooks, Indigo Girls, and Allison Krauss and Gillian Welch, and perform at the White House. We chat with Sierra about growing up learning on stage with people 3x her age, the contrast of then studying

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00:47:45

Langhorne Slim on getting out of the mind and into...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/03/20

Langhorne Slim has released 10 records over the last 20 years on a handful of labels (currently Dualtone Records), played festivals ranging from Newport Folk to Lollapalooza, late night shows from Letterman to Conan, and has had his music used in many many television shows and commercials. We go deep and vulnerable pretty quickly on everything from addiction/sobriety, the relentless inner monologue, mountain top envy, his new-found parenthood, and a whole lot more.Get more access and support this

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00:48:54

Devon Gilfillian on freedom in routine, machine...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/03/13

Devon Gilfillian has released records on both Capital and Fantasy Records, played on Colbert and Kimmel, and opened for The Brothers Osborne, My Morning Jacket, Mavis Staples, Gladys Knight and more. We chat with him about how routine can create freedom in your life, the importance of physical wellbeing both on the road and at home, building a machine that can provide for your people, using your platform and voice as an artist, and all points in between.Get more access and support this show by

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00:59:44

Margo Price + Jeremy Ivey on balancing approaches,...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2024/03/06

Margo Price and Jeremy Ivey are both artists, songwriters, and are married with kids. They've released records on Loma Vista, Anti-, Third Man and independently, and under Margo's project have been nominated for a Grammy, played SNL, won awards, and more. We talk about balancing the many rolls in their lives, both together and independently, creating together while also parenting together, going from having a band together (Buffalo Clover) to 'separate' careers, and so many metaphors from table

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00:48:44

Mary Chapin Carpenter on owning the process,...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2023/12/27

Mary Chapin Carpenter is an 18x Grammy nominated, 5x Grammy winning, 6x platinum-selling singer-songwriter with over 16 albums and decades of touring so far in her career. We talk with Mary Chapin about her songwriting process, including her need for solitude and her practice of "song walking," we talk about how she still faces rejection even with all of her accolades and commercial success, how common and easy it is to personalize mistreatment from people in power (and how to combat that), and much

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00:56:14

Glen Phillips (Toad the Wet Sprocket) on the joy of...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2023/12/20

Glen Phillips, lead singer of Toad the Wet Sprocket as well as a solo artist, has released 7 records with the band - 2 of which are multiplatinum - and 7 solo albums, spanning a career that started 37 years ago when Glen was just 15 years old. We talk about creating, and navigating the industry as both an active platinum-selling band, after the break-up, and now as the band has reformed, focusing and prioritizing the sheer joy of creating, how community can inspire and inform your creativity, and

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00:44:16

Laura Veirs on staying aware, planning a sabbatical...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2023/12/13

Laura Veirs is a prolific singer-songwriter with over 14 albums released on her own label as well as Nonesuch Records and Bella Union, is a member of case/lang/veirs (w/ Niko Case & kd lang) and is a painter, (brief) podcast host, and author of a children's book on Elizabeth Cotton. We talk about staying aware of the beauty and joy that surrounds you, planning (and taking) a sabbatical year as a self-employed creative, ceding control of your social media accounts, stage fright, running your own

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01:00:09

Gretchen Peters on recalibrating your definition of...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2023/12/06

Gretchen Peters is a Grammy-nominated, CMA Song of the Year winning member of the Songwriters Hall of Fame, who had an extensive touring, has released 14 albums (mostly on her own label), and had songs recorded by the likes of Etta James, Martina McBride, George Strait, Patty Loveless, Shania Twain, Neil Diamond, Trisha Yearwood, and Bryan Adams, just to name a few. This episode jumps right in with Gretchen's decision, and the public (and private) reactions, to retire from touring, and we go on to

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01:02:18

Robert Ellis on present consciousness, getting back...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2023/11/29

Robert Ellis is a singer-songwriter, producer, and multi-instrumentalist who has put out 6 albums both self-released and on New West Records, and having worked on records by Jamestown Revival, White Denim, Khruangbin, Nicole Atkins and others. We chat about the many benefits of mindfulness and being in the present moment, using adversity and tough times to return to having fun creating, parenting and perceptions, sobriety, and just saying f*ck it let's try something new!Get more access, including

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00:55:45

Samantha Crain on asking questions, self advocacy,...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2023/11/22

Samantha Crain has released 8 records, started touring at 19, eventually supporting artists such as The Avett Brothers, Neutral Milk Hotel, Brandi Carlile, Buffy Sainte-Marie, Gregory Alan Isakov, The Mountain Goats, and MANY others, as well as joining First Aid Kit for an appearance on 'Conan', and self-producing many of her own records, as well as records for other artists. We explore the power of asking questions, both as a way to learn more in craft and business and as a means of self-advocacy

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00:44:39

John Craigie on the art of storytelling, the optics...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2023/11/15

John Craigie is a singer-songwriter based out of Portland OR but who spent years living on the road, has released 12+ albums, and toured with the likes of Jack Johnson, Gregory Alan Isakov, Shawn Colvin, Sean Hayes and more. Craigie is known for his engaging live show that weaves a hefty dose of storytelling - in the vein of Arlo Gutherie - as well as comedy between his songs, so we send a lot of time talking about the art of storytelling and it's place in a concert, comedy, how he sustains such an

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01:06:32

Joe Henry on the creative stream, daily aesthetics,...

The Other 22 Hours ·

2023/11/08

Joe Henry is a songwriter, producer, and writer who has released over 15 solo records on labels such as A&M and Anti-, and has produced records for a long list of artists such as Bonnie Raitt, Elvis Costello, Solomon Burke, Allen Toussaint, Rodney Crowell, Aimee Mann, Ani Difranco, Teddy Thompson, John Doe, and more. We have a diverse conversation about keeping yourself in the creative stream, knowing when to step away, acceptance, and much surrounding the Tom Waits quote, "How you do anything is

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