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A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica

Claire Mazur & Erica Cerulo

Hosts Claire Mazur and Erica Cerulo, who you might know as the co-founders of the website Of a Kind (RIP!) or the co-authors of the book Work Wife, are all about discovery and enthusiasm. We"ve heard this weekly podcast described as a "unique mix of urgent discussions of non-urgent things and thoughtful discussions of important, and often otherwise ignored, things," and we"re very much on board with that take.

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00:52:30

French Cuffing, Biz Rizz, and I’ll Have What She’s...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/11/06

French-cuff your pants and open your Notes app because this week we’re diving into some cooking thoughts, new vocab, Nora Ephron lore, and more! Cookbooks! S/o to this tweet from Jen Rose Smith and Ali Slagle’s I Dream of Dinner, which has been Claire’s dinner salvation of late. As for the It veggies of the season, we present Grub Street’s “When Did Cabbage Get So Sexy?” and T mag's ”Radicchio Is in Season — And in Style.” New terms to use in a sentence: biz rizz, friend-in-law, and RFP, as

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00:58:44

Doppelgänger and Thingies c/o Karah Preiss, Our...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/10/30

We’re back to talk Thingies with Karah Preiss, the co-founder of Belletrist, an online reading community and production company she started with Emma Roberts. She’s an executive producer of Tell Me Lies and First Kill and so many things you will watch IN THE FUTURE, and she’s also just an absolute delight. First things first, we gotta discuss Doppelgänger by Naomi Klein. Karah’s Thingies include The Cockmark (somehow reading-related), May December (out November 17), Rosie O'Donnell (and

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00:46:40

Scary Stories, True Citrus, and the Dangers of Flossing

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/10/23

We’re pursuing some new interests this week including picking apart oral-care TikTok, attending monster truck rallies, and finding angry aunts that give incredible advice. OOOH, and don’t forget to hit us up with your gift-guide requests—the phone lines are open! Need noise-cancelers for your next monster truck rally (or Eras viewing)? We’re fans of Loop Earplugs. And! Zach Helfand on Monster Jam for The New Yorker. Highly recommend The Brooding column by Kathryn Jezer-Morton for The

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00:39:22

Chicken Salad, Gas-Station Shopping, and Sandra...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/10/16

We’ve got a grab bag for you today featuring tampon testing, Boynton Blends, Chicken Salad Chicks, and capturing the elusive joy of shopping while at the gas station. We were blown away by this Mother Jones article “Wait, Tampons Weren’t Being Tested With Human Blood?” We’re back on our Sandra Boynton beat! See Audrey Gelman’s piece for The Strategist about Boynton Blends coffee, Anne Diven's Gaga x Sandra TikTok, and an eBay trove of vintage wallpaper. Friends, we had to do a deep-dive on

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00:52:27

Rats, Rain Clogs, and Romance

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/10/09

Finally, it’s time to talk about our current favorite Rs: rats, rain clogs, and romance! Our rain-clog conversation has reached new heights! As in: We have a Calzuro review for you. Holiday shopping season is starting early because the Staten Island Pizza Rat hats are back in stock. Now onto romance! For an IRL one, try Julia Allison and Noah Feldman. Fictional romances we love include You, Again by Kate Goldbeck (bonus read: this Vulture story about fanfics-turned-bestsellers by

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00:48:39

Tattoo Season and Music, Music, Music

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/10/02

Question for you all: Is tattoo season a thing? Follow up: Are tattoos cooler now than they used to be? Please think about your answers while listening to country artists we’re loving right now (and Post Malone while you’re at it). On country music having a moment: Vulture and Rolling Stone. Here are some artists (and their songs!) to dig into: Luke Combs (“When It Rains It Pours” and his cover of “Fast Car”), Zach Bryan ("I Remember Everything" featuring Kacey Musgraves, “Something in

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00:46:50

Nyming, Labor Musicals, and Autograph Books

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/09/25

We’re *nyming*! This week we’re covering the new era of nyms (acronyms): LIWMs (Laura Ingalls Wilder Museums), ABs (autograph books), LMs (labor musicals), SKSs (squeaky kids shoes), and CPAs (co-parenting apps). TTYL! Our new nyming era is inspired by one of our greatest TikTok minds, Jake Shane (see the toks here and here). We also reminisce on Erica’s chronicles of the Laura Ingalls Wilder Museum and Nancy Meyer’s Instagram post about her daughter’s autograph book, and we can’t get over the

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00:55:24

Alpaca Fashion Shows and Beauty Insider Priya Rao's...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/09/18

A new day calls for new Thingies with Priya Rao, executive editor of The Business of Beauty at BoF and creator of the Glossy narrative skin-lightening podcast Unfair. But first: a camelid costume contest. Priya’s beauty-centric Thingies include 111 Skin Eye Lift Gel NAC Y²™, Augustinus Bader The Rich Cream, Ilia Limitless Mascara , and Half Magic’s Glitter Pill. Her non-beauty Thingies? Cadets shorts for her kiddo (Claire also loves Billie Blooms), Lovevery Play Kits, The West Wing (and, ok,

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00:47:54

Same Grade, Mood Boards, and Why We Don’t Get the...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/09/11

The oddness of mood boards, some back-to-school content, and one heck of a food journey, featuring international ice cream, dream potato-chip collaborations, and dip delicacies worth dealing with baggage claim. Buckle in! Erica loves Word. notebooks, and Claire is all about the MochiThings checklist ones. Some foods discussed: Magnum Double Starchaser, Jon and Vinny’s house salad, the 40 Aprons creamy clam dip recipe, Tenayo bean dip, Brothers Products black bean chipotle hummus, NYT's

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00:40:48

Crowd Favorite: How We Vacation-Plan and Y2K Trends,...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/09/04

Coming at you today, a 2022 favorite starring two topics we’re still struggling with: So you picked a travel destination…and then what? We’re sharing the (only somewhat insane!) steps we take and the resources we love for planning a vacation. Also: Let’s spend a moment discussing the late nineties/early aughts trends that are re-catching our eyes and the ones we think we won’t wear again. Some reflections on the Miu Miu skirt ℅ this NYT article “Brief Encounters With a Micro

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00:50:44

Morning Baths, Workout Wear, Butter Money, and Kale...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/08/28

Make sure to double-knot your shoes because we’re running through a bunch of activewear brands, morning baths, kale phones, butter money, and COTC (corn on the cob, clearly). You can read more about Vuori’s lore in Courier (and try out their Pose fitted polo, Daydream drew, and All the Feels bra for yourself). Other workout wear of interest: Splits59 (specifically their Raquel flared leggings), Wilson (how ‘bout these Wynne pleated pants and the pleated court short?), Tracksmith ( their Article

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00:46:41

Regrettably Worth It and Driving

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/08/21

Get in, bitch, we’re going…to talk all about cars, with a sprinkling of Thingies that are regrettably worth it. Some regrettably worth it submissions from IG (and our brains) include Skims (related from The Cut), sleep consultants for toddlers, law school, putting your phone in another room after 8 p.m., professional framing, going to Ikea, getting your shoes repaired at Leather Spa (see also: New York Sneaker Society), peeling chickpeas, and stretching. Do you love car washes as much as

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00:42:23

The Notebook, Stickers, and Your Pioneer Intel

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/08/14

We share our (hot?) takes on stickers and The Notebook; we share yours on your younger selves and Pioneer Day. This week’s past-selves quotes come to you via Slouching Towards Bethlehem by Joan Didian and this profile of Ryan Gosling in GQ by Zach Baron. The Notebook—James Marsden also has thoughts, ℅ this W mag profile by Evan Ross Katz. Related-ish: Roger Ebert’s own love story "Roger loves Chaz." Stickers! Sandylion on Etsy, @stickerarchive, Red Bubble's nineties collection, and the

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00:48:26

Parenting Brush-Offs, Your Thingies, and Corn

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/08/07

Today we’re diving into *your* Instagram Thingies submissions, rain clogs (yes, again), parenting stuff, and—wait for it—cotton-candy burritos. We learned about cotton-candy burritos via Amy Sedaris’s wonderfully random IG account. Who’s opening that Creamberry franchise? Two most popular Thingies right now: Checking out cookbooks from the library and the Owala FreeSip water bottle. Speaking of beverages, y’all have many ideas, including ice-cold Lillet Blanc with frozen orange slices, a

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00:47:42

PMS and Joy (Brought to You by Jubilance!)

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/07/31

This week, we’re talking all things PMS and the many, many joy-givers in our lives. Shout-out to this ep’s sponsor, Jubilance, the most advanced scientific PMS mood relief supplement. Yes, that’s a thing—one that you can try by heading on over to jubilance.com/AThingOrTwo or using the coupon code ATHINGORTWO at checkout. Kicking things off strong with the TikTok Taylor Swift Albums as Period Flows Pt. 2, which reminds us how major it was when Kotex used red liquid instead of blue and when Always

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00:50:04

Covered Wagon Core, Friendship Ambition, and Summer...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/07/24

Coming through with some thoughts on the intersection of friendship and ambition, covered wagon core (not to be confused with cottagecore!), and ~summer movies~. Following up on our Wilder conversation, we’d like to discuss covered wagon core. See Kim K.’s CR Fashion Book spread “The Pioneer Woman,” Rudy Jude, Salter House, and making jam. Re: actual covered wagons, Conestoga does a luxe wagon and a bar wagon, both, and Pioneer Woman has a roundup of campgrounds with covered

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00:47:04

Squishy Cheeses and Life-Improvers

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/07/17

Cottage cheese, pimento cheese, and us bringing our trademark cheese??? Cottage cheese—"whey cool," per the WSJ; a forever classic, per us. Skip the TikTok recipes and try this savory Bon Appétit salad or this (also BA) horseradish dip. If you’re in NYC, get yourself to Dimes for the breakfast Papaya D’Lite. (Somehow related: charred Mexican zucchini recipe.) Calling all pimento cheeseheads: We rec Callie’s and Zingerman’s, wanna try this NYT Cooking frittata, and got a real history lesson

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00:46:01

Laura Ingalls Wilder, Savannah Bananas, and the Floss...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/07/10

It’s time to revisit some ghosts of podcasts past, from rain clogs to private creative practices to an incredibly detailed review of an electric flosser. Our discussion of fun sports experiences is ongoing thanks to the Savannah Bananas, an exhibition baseball team that’s a must-follow on Instagram and TikTok. More on their founding story via WBUR. A morning-pages follow-up: Wendy MacNaughton created a DrawTogether 30-day Drawing Habit Experiment Challenge as a visual companion/alt. A

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00:36:57

Crowd Favorite: Guest Thingies We’ve Tried and Loved

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/07/03

Another 2022 crowd-pleaser coming at you! We road-tested a whole slew of the Thingies recent guests recommended, and we have much to share! Join us for this and some extremely entertaining voicemails responding to our question “What’s the sorority version of ‘praise and polish?’” From our episode with Rumaan Alam, Claire was inspired to listen to the audiobook version of Empire of Pain by Patrick Radden Keefe, and Erica has been using Fitbod (but only doing the exercises she wants to). Thanks to

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00:45:11

The Other Summer Dressing, Overhosting, and Minor...

A Thing or Two with Claire and Erica ·

2023/06/26

It’s time to soothe your mind about summer (salad) dressing stress! Also, we talk the ideal American sporting event and overhosting, a term that speaks to us more than we’d like. Some dressings for summer and really whenever: Via Carota’s, Toro Bravo's, and Kewpie’s BUT FROM JAPAN. Both Mark Bittman and Samin Nosrat do a strong miso-mustard, and our no-recipe recipes are a honey-mustard (just honey, French’s yellow, red-wine vinegar, and olive oil) and the never-fail combo of ketchup, mayo,

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