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The SAF Podcast

Welcome to The SAF Podcast, the only podcast on the internet that exclusively covers sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). So if you want to find out the real issues and challenges are for commercialising and scaling SAF production, look no further.Every week we will be hearing from senior industry leaders who are actively shaping the future of SAF and aviation.Hosted by Oscar Henderson and brought to you by the team at SAF Investor. Connect with us at www.safinvestor.com

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42:04

Dario Formenti | ISCC | "It is not just a stamp"...

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2026/09/30

Certification has a reputation for being complicated. Dario Formenti, senior systems manager - sustainable fuels, International Sustainability and Carbon Certification (ISCC) thinks that's overdone, and explains why. On this week's episode of The SAF Podcast, Oscar and Dario cover why certification is far more than a stamp on paper. It underpins market access, compliance claims and the credibility SAF needs to scale. They also discuss: How ISCC handles e-SAF and RFNBOs, including its pr...

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50:02

Manshu Agarwal, HutanBio: Algae's one in a trillion...

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2026/09/23

This week Oscar is joined by Manshu Agarwal, CEO, HutanBio a UK based company aiming to commercialise the use of Algae as a feedstock for sustainable aviation fuel production. Manshu has watched the algae story play out once already. A chemical engineer by training, he cut his teeth at Sapphire Energy and then Synthetic Genomics — two ventures that between them raised hundreds of millions of dollars chasing algae biofuels, only to run into the same wall: the biology simply wasn't good e...

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46:24

Ryan Jackson, Cielo Waste Solution: Show me the...

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2026/09/16

On this week's episode of The SAF Podcast, Ryan Jackson, CEO, Cielo Waste Solutions joins Oscar to discuss the company's project platform to constructing SAF projects. Jackson unpacks Cielo's flagship Nahoonai project, developed in partnership with the Lheidi T’enneh First Nation through Tano T’enneh Enterprises — a co-ownership structure he argues de-risks permitting and helps unlock financing through Crown corporations like the Canada Infrastructure Bank. Alongside the favorable...

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47:33

Hydrocarbon Engineering: The accident that...

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2026/08/05

This week Khaled, Ramon and Miguel of Hydrocarbon Engineering join Oscar on The SAF Podcast to tell the story behind their accidental discovery: a reactor built to produce bio-oil that, instead, yielded a diesel-like hydrocarbon in a single step. Years of reverse engineering later, the Valencia-based team has turned that anomaly into a feedstock-agnostic, single-stage hydrothermal process for producing SAF, renewable diesel and other hydrocarbons — one that removes the need for a ...

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58:07

Iris Warnaar, SkyNRG and Mark Kelly, ICF: SAF Market...

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2026/07/29

For the third year running, Oscar sits down to unpack the 2026 SAF Market Outlook report once again with Mark Kelly (ICF) and this year with Iris Warnaar (SkyNRG). The headline numbers: SAF demand is forecast to reach 12.8 million tonnes by 2030 (3.6% of jet fuel) and climb past 190 million tonnes by 2050, though US policy headwinds have pulled the near-term forecast down from last year's projections. On supply, 2030 capacity now stands at 18.5 million tonnes, creating a brief surplus before ...

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44:25

James Hygate, Firefly: "You can't not do it, if you...

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2026/07/08

James Hygate, CEO and founder of Firefly, returns to The SAF Podcast for the first time since December 2023 — and a lot has happened. James brings his characteristic blend of technical depth, founder candour, and big-picture ambition to a brilliant wide ranging discussion. James opens with a comprehensive update on Firefly's progress: the selection of Turkish engineering firm Altaca as their HTL technology partner, the securing of a site at an existing refinery in Harwich for the downs...

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49:04

Amy Herbert, Arcadia eFuels & Thomas Engelmann, KGAL:...

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2026/07/01

In this episode, Oscar is joined by two guests at the heart of Europe's eSAF scale-up effort: Amy Herbert, Arcadia eFuels, and Thomas Engelmann, KGAL— both key figures within Project SkyPower, the industry coalition to the European Commission to put in place the conditions needed to bring eSAF projects to final investment decision. Amy opens with an overview of Arcadia eFuels and its flagship Project Endor in Denmark — one of the most advanced eSAF projects in Europe, with FEED complete, perm...

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49:33

The SAF World Cup

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2026/06/25

Getting fully behind World Cup fever, SAF Investor is running The SAF World Cup. Gathering experts from different countries, we will be running a knock out style bracket to find the most promising SAF country in the world. Decided by popular vote! Whether it is policies, access to capital, offtakers, feedstock access, infrastructure expertise all these will be key discussion points. Join for a bit of World Cup fun alongside some serious discussion! Speakers include: Trevor Best, Syzyg...

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60:14

Dan Sutton, Syntholene: Building on a volcano and...

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2026/06/10

In this episode, we sit down with Dan Sutton, CEO and co-founder of Syntholene, to explore their geothermally integrated synthetic fuel production technology currently being developed in Iceland. Dan explains why geothermal energy is such a compelling foundation for eSAF production, how Syntholene's solid oxide electrolyzer cell (SOEC) technology — integrated with Iceland's abundant heat and electricity — creates a step-change in hydrogen cost reduction, and why the company believes it can ac...

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49:16

Mikala Grubb, Topsoe: The 100th episode and tech...

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2026/06/03

For the 100th episode of The SAF Podcast, we're joined by Mikala Grubb, Senior Vice President of Technologies, Topsoe — one of the world's leading catalysis and technology companies, whose technology produces an estimated third of all the SAF available globally today. We start with feedstocks — why the constraints on used cooking oil and animal fats are tightening, what a post-2030 feedstock crunch could look like, and which next-generation feedstock options (from intermediate crops and munic...

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54:12

Adam Forsyth, Longspur Capital: Khaki is the new green

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2026/05/27

Adam Forsyth, founder of Longspur Capital joins for the latest episode of The SAF Podcast. A leading voice in clean energy investment, we explore how sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) fits into the broader energy transition — and what it will take to unlock the capital needed to scale it. Adam draws on decades of experience across equity research, corporate finance, and clean energy advisory to unpack the structural financing challenges unique to SAF: the offtake mismatch, the difficulty of sec...

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60:13

Alasdair Lumsden, Carbon Neutral Fuels: Ctrl C, Ctrl...

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2026/05/20

In this episode, we sit down with Alasdair Lumsden, co-founder of Carbon Neutral Fuels, to explore how taking a screwdriver to a VCR led to his time in tech entrepreneurship, which eventually ended up in the world of sustainable aviation fuel. Alasdair walks us through the company's Power-to-Liquid e-SAF project, Project Starling — a commercial-scale facility planned for Workington, Cumbria, targeting 25,000 tonnes per year of SAF by 2031. We dig into the nuts and bolts of CNF's technol...

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64:51

Vinesh Sinha, Fathopes Energy: Revolutionising...

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2026/05/14

This week's episode sees Vinesh Sinha, CEO, FatHopes Energy, joins Oscar Henderson for a conversation on the SAF Podcast. Vinesh Sinha dropped out of university in 2007, inspired by a Top Gear episode, and built FatHopes Energy into one of Southeast Asia's most sophisticated sustainable fuel feedstock operations — with a digital traceability platform years ahead of the competition. In this episode, Vinesh talks feedstock aggregation, the realities of scaling a waste-oil supply chain a...

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45:13

Shubhda Kaushik, Alternative Energy Company:...

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2026/05/07

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, Oscar is joined by Shubhda Kaushik, managing director & chief executive officer, Alternative Energy Company, to explore what it really takes to move sustainable aviation fuel projects from ambition to final investment decision. Drawing on experience at Standard Chartered, Bain and McKinsey and Maersk, giving her a rounded perspective across finance, strategy and commercial practicality. Shubhda explains why capital for energy transition projects is not ...

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54:22

Noaman Al Adhami, Alfanar Projects: Lighting the way...

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2026/04/15

Noaman Al Adhami, UK Country Head at Alfanar Projects, is this week's guest on The SAF Podcast. He joins Oscar for a discussion into Lighthouse Green Fuels — one of the UK’s most closely watched sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) projects. We begin by looking at why Alfanar chose to initially focus SAF production in the UK and the decisions around site selection. We then explore what it takes to develop a second-generation SAF project at scale, including the gasification and FT-SPK pathway...

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47:44

Patrick Sieb, Climate Tech Partners: Getting into the...

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2026/04/08

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, Oscar is joined by Patrick Sieb, Managing Partner at Climate Tech Partners, for a conversation on what it really takes to finance and scale sustainable aviation fuel. From Series A climate tech investing to corporate-startup partnerships and the infrastructure challenges behind SAF production, Patrick shares a practical investor’s view on how promising technologies can move from early traction to commercial deployment. Climate Tech Partners investment model...

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49:32

Nico Nicholas, ZEERO Group: One person's waste is...

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2026/04/01

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, Oscar is joined by Nico Nicholas, Co-Founder and CEO of Zeero Group, for a discussion on the commercial and strategic realities of scaling the Hydrothermal Liquefaction SAF pathway. The conversation goes beyond the technical basics to look at how waste-to-fuel projects are financed, how they can be tailored to local infrastructure needs, and why collaboration across sectors may be essential if SAF is to scale at pace. We dive into a variety of topics includ...

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41:20

Maria Whittaker, Abra Group: The quest for SAF in...

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2026/03/25

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, host Oscar is joined by Maria Whittaker, Corporate Responsibility Officer at Abra Group — the airline group behind Avianca and GOL, serving nearly 70 million passengers across Latin America. Maria unpacks the unique challenges and opportunities of scaling sustainable aviation fuel in a region where aviation provides essential connectivity, fuel costs represent up to 40% of operational expenses, and SAF production is still in its earliest stages. We cover:

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65:52

Kenneth Hill, BioCarbon Strategies: Deciphering SAF's...

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2026/03/18

Kenneth Hill, BioCarbon Strategies joins us for this episode of The SAF Podcast as we knee deep in the alphabet soup of North American tax policy. Ken brings unique insight as a former U.S. Department of Energy financing official who worked on projects like Montana Renewables and Gevo, combined with current experience vetting SAF projects and advising investors on bankability across the US, Canada, and emerging markets. Key Topics Covered: 🇺🇸 US SAF Market Grade: From B+ (one year ago) ...

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48:50

Jan Toscka, Zaffra: Realising the romantic potential...

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2026/03/11

This episode of The SAF Podcast sees Jan Toschka, CEO at Zaffra, join Oscar for a wide ranging discussion on the potential of eSAF and the Power-to-Liquid pathway. Jan brings 27 years of energy sector experience—including leading Shell Aviation as its president—to his role building Zaffra, a 50/50 joint venture between Sasol and Tops. Together, they're leveraging their technology expertise and project development experience to commercialize eSAF. Key Topics Covered: 🇩🇪 The Concrete

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