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The SAF Podcast

Welcome to The SAF Podcast, the only podcast on the internet that exclusively covers sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). So if you want to find out the real issues and challenges are for commercialising and scaling SAF production, look no further.Every week we will be hearing from senior industry leaders who are actively shaping the future of SAF and aviation.Hosted by Oscar Henderson and brought to you by the team at SAF Investor. Connect with us at www.safinvestor.com

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49:32

Nico Nicholas, ZEERO Group: One person's waste is...

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2026/04/01

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, Oscar is joined by Nico Nicholas, Co-Founder and CEO of Zeero Group, for a discussion on the commercial and strategic realities of scaling the Hydrothermal Liquefaction SAF pathway. The conversation goes beyond the technical basics to look at how waste-to-fuel projects are financed, how they can be tailored to local infrastructure needs, and why collaboration across sectors may be essential if SAF is to scale at pace. We dive into a variety of topics includ...

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41:20

Maria Whittaker, Abra Group: The quest for SAF in...

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2026/03/25

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, host Oscar is joined by Maria Whittaker, Corporate Responsibility Officer at Abra Group — the airline group behind Avianca and GOL, serving nearly 70 million passengers across Latin America. Maria unpacks the unique challenges and opportunities of scaling sustainable aviation fuel in a region where aviation provides essential connectivity, fuel costs represent up to 40% of operational expenses, and SAF production is still in its earliest stages. We cover:

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65:52

Kenneth Hill, BioCarbon Strategies: Deciphering SAF's...

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2026/03/18

Kenneth Hill, BioCarbon Strategies joins us for this episode of The SAF Podcast as we knee deep in the alphabet soup of North American tax policy. Ken brings unique insight as a former U.S. Department of Energy financing official who worked on projects like Montana Renewables and Gevo, combined with current experience vetting SAF projects and advising investors on bankability across the US, Canada, and emerging markets. Key Topics Covered: 🇺🇸 US SAF Market Grade: From B+ (one year ago) ...

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48:50

Jan Toscka, Zaffra: Realising the romantic potential...

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2026/03/11

This episode of The SAF Podcast sees Jan Toschka, CEO at Zaffra, join Oscar for a wide ranging discussion on the potential of eSAF and the Power-to-Liquid pathway. Jan brings 27 years of energy sector experience—including leading Shell Aviation as its president—to his role building Zaffra, a 50/50 joint venture between Sasol and Tops. Together, they're leveraging their technology expertise and project development experience to commercialize eSAF. Key Topics Covered: 🇩🇪 The Concrete

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51:54

Green Finance Institute - The personal trainers for...

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2026/03/04

In this episode, we dive deep into the financing challenges and solutions driving the sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) industry forward with Mahesh Roy, Programme Director, SAF at the Green Finance Institute. Mahesh shares his unique journey from accidental banking career in Australia to leading green finance initiatives across the UK and EU. He explains what makes SAF fundamentally different from renewable energy industries and why the financing requirements are so complex. Key Topics...

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52:16

DG Fuels - Strategy at the heart of everything

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2026/02/25

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, host Oscar sits down with Chris Chaput — a former Northwest Airlines executive, Morgan Stanley investment banker, and airline restructuring specialist — to unpack how DG Fuels is not just developing a SAF project, but a SAF platform. We cover: DG Fuels' gasification-to-Fischer-Tropsch technology and their patented 97–98% carbon conversion efficiencyHow strategically building your partners (Johnson Matthey, Honeywell, NextChem) and EPC (Samsung & Black &...

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50:19

FGE NexantECA - The building blocks for SAF project...

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2026/02/18

This week's episode of The SAF Podcast sees Clive Gibson and Connie Lo from FGE NexantECA join Oscar. This episode is a must listen if you want a blueprint of how to develop a SAF project, what separates investable SAF projects from optimistic slide decks. Hot off the back of FGE NexantECA's feasibility study with Fathopes Energy completing. Clive breaks down feasibility as a set of parallel workstreams—commercial, technical, ESG, and funding—designed to converge on a real FID, not just a “ba...

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51:08

Dana Shoukroun, Invest Through Flying - Wearing lab...

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2026/02/04

This week Dana Shoukroun, Invest Through Flying is our guest on The SAF Podcast. The conversation is a wide ranging one covering the cost of compliance, why purchasing SAF now will pay dividends in the future and how growing SAF has to go beyond what is dictated by EU Mandates. We also find out which scientists need lab coats. We move onto the potential of nuclear as an energy source for synthetic SAF production. Dana explains the exciting potential and we discuss the obvious challenges...

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59:54

Future Energy Global - SAF's new year's resolutions...

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2026/01/21

This week Natasha Mann, Future Energy Global (FEG) comes back on the Podcast to discuss her busy last few years, we wrap up SAF in 2025 and look forward to what to expect from 2026. We begin by looking at all the deals FEG have signed over the last two since since its founding in 2024. Offtakes with corporates and airlines, the importance of voluntary scope 3 customers to industry scale, how aggregating demand is a crucial component of scaling SAF production and availability globally, a...

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51:13

Fedex - Shipping your cargo on SAF

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2026/01/14

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, Oscar is joined by Mike Fulton, Project Aircraft Engineer at FedEx and widely known as “The SAF Guy,” for a deep-dive conversation on how one of the world’s largest cargo airlines is approaching sustainable aviation fuel at scale. With more than 700 aircraft, making it the world's largest dedicated cargo fleet. Operations in over 220 countries, and aviation responsible for around 80% of its carbon footprint, FedEx sits at the sharp end of aviation decarboni...

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36:39

BookBetter - Bringing SAF to the forefront of travel...

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2026/01/07

We kick off 2026 on the podcast with a great conversation with Nicolas Guillaume and Louis Lammertyn from BookBetter. The platform integrates sustainability costs directly into flight pricing, offering travelers 100% SAF options and alternative transport modes like trains when more sustainable. Unlike traditional airline booking systems that add SAF as an optional extra at checkout, BookBetter prioritizes transparency from the first search, using third-party registries to verify environ...

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43:19

The SAF Podcast: National Laboratory of the Rockies -...

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2025/12/17

The final episode of 2025 brings a fresh perspective as The SAF Podcast welcomes its first Academic, Alon Lidor from the National Laboratory of the Rockies (formerly the National Renewable Energy Laboratory). Alon shares his fascinating journey from aerospace engineering to sustainable aviation fuel research, including his work on solar-driven thermochemical processes at ETH Zurich and his current role at NLR. The conversation explores his groundbreaking research on chemical looping technolog...

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44:02

The SAF Podcast: Avioxx - Developing cleantech and...

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2025/12/10

On this week's episode of The SAF Podcast Chris Hancock, Avioxx joins Oscar to share their waste-to-fuel technology and their UK project development strategy. Chris begins by sharing his journey from fintech entrepreneur to cleantech innovator, explaining some of the parallels between the early days of fintech and today's nascent SAF industry. We also dive into Avioxx's off-grid approach integrating Fischer-Tropsch reactors with solid oxide fuel cells, enabling the plant to generate its...

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51:56

The SAF Podcast: Nexen Biosystems - How celebrity...

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2025/11/26

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, host Oscar Henderson sits down with Hamid, Francis and Sergio from Nexen Biosystems to explore one of the most unconventional and interesting sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) feedstocks emerging today: tequila bagasse. With what seems like every celebrity wanting to start a tequila brand. The market over recent years has boomed, creating an abundant amount of year round feedstock. Tequila production is tightly concentrated by denomination rules, so res...

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31:52

The SAF Podcast: Exolum - Stocking the shelves for...

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2025/11/06

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, host Oscar Henderson welcomes back Gorka Penalva, Exolum, to discuss the company’s latest milestone — the launch of its new SAF blending facility at Redcliffe Bay in the UK. Gorka shares how Exolum is transforming its legacy fuel infrastructure to support a low-carbon future and reveals the vision behind what they’re calling the “SAF Superhighway.” Exolum is taking bold steps forward in the SAF market, moving beyond the traditional wait-and-see approach tha...

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48:55

The SAF Podcast: Alaska Airlines - Focusing on what...

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2025/10/15

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, Diana Birkett Rakow, Executive Vice President of Public Affairs and Sustainability at Alaska Airlines and incoming CEO of Hawaiian Airlines, joins Oscar for a deep dive into how the airlines are shaping their SAF strategy and how it plays into overall emissions reductions ambitions. We dig into Alaska’s five-part path to net zero by 2040—operational efficiency, fleet renewal, SAF, new propulsion and airframes, and only then high-quality removals—and w...

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46:32

The SAF Podcast: Catagen - The modular route to...

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2025/10/08

Hot off the heels of their public announcement, Mel Courtney, Catagen is the latest guest on The SAF Podcast. We discuss the spinning out of Catagen ClimaHtech Green Flight, utilizing the technology honed in the 15 years of emissions testing, for their modular sustainable aviation fuel facilities through electrified reverse water gas shift Fischer-Tropsch. Unlike conventional centralized refineries, their modular approach produces between one and ten million liters of neat SAF ann...

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49:18

The SAF Podcast: PA Consulting - From Cacophony to...

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2025/09/24

This week on The SAF Podcast Kata Cserep and Salem Esber, PA Consulting join Oscar to discuss the recent Cacophony to Symphony: Successfully Scaling Sustainable Aviation Fuel report. With nearly 600 survey participants spanning airlines, airports, fuel producers, investors, and policymakers, the report reveals critical challenges in scaling SAF—most notably fragmentation across the ecosystem, cost barriers, and policy misalignment. Kata, an aviation strategist, and Salem, an energy and ...

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46:06

The SAF Podcast: EcoCeres - Planting the seeds for...

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2025/09/17

This week Matti Lievonen, EcoCeres joins Oscar on The SAF Podcast. Matti shares insights from his illustrious career from the transition from traditional refining at Neste to pioneering renewable fuel production in the rapidly expanding Asian SAF market. The conversation reveals the company's innovative approach to feedstock traceability, managing relationships with over 100,000 restaurants for used cooking oil collection, and their breakthrough "easy tracer" technology that tracks feedstock ...

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63:40

The SAF Podcast: ASAFA - Developing Asia's SAF road

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2025/09/10

This week on The SAF Podcast we turn both eyes and ears to Asia with the three founders of the Asian SAF Association, Fabrice Espinosa, Gabriel Ho and Dietmar Posselt. Covering 48 vastly differing countries from the Middle East across to APAC, ASAFA aim is to promote production levels to decarbonise the regions growing aviation footprint. Rather than waiting for perfect policy frameworks, Asian countries are taking practical steps forward, setting achievable targets that create immediate mome...

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