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369 - The Grit! April 24, 2026

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2026/04/24

In today's show Chas and David mark the entry to professional surfing's new era of ultra fitness, and then witness surfing's core score plummet as Kim K enters the lineup, Zeke joins OnlyFans, "Yew!" hits peak saturation, then Garet from Central Coast outshines Kelly Slater with a single wave, and Andy Irons returns to yet again for another merch drop opportunity. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:17:13

368 - The Grit! April 21, 2026

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2026/04/21

In today's show David recaps his Nicaragua trip and shares new enlightenment gleaned through exhaustion and surf satiation, then Chas offers a gentle acceptance of Prince Harry into the surf world brethren, and the boys review surf etiquette signs and attempt to find universality for a code of conduct before discovering the perils of cliff diving and drinking on the job. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

56:27

454 - Spit! April 18, 2026

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2026/04/18

In today's episode David reports from the ground in Nicaragua detailing the waves and preferred board choices, and then he and Scott recap Bells, Margaret's opening day, the Yago vs Wilcox beef, and the official changing of the guard in the women's division. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

01:18:46

591 - Eden Saul: Dead Kooks

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2026/04/10

In today's show board builder Eden Saul explains his shifting manufacturing practices in response to erratic US tariffs, injury's endless travails on a shaper's livelihood, the blessed gift of finding a committed apprentice, the scary first step of scaling and delegation, how to create a brand aesthetic while still letting you lam team go nuts, and a patriotic fervor for the new crop of CT shredders. Enjoy!

01:26:05

367 - The Grit! April 10, 2026

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2026/04/10

In today's show Chas and David get even deeper scoop about Britt vs Kelly's burgeoning Blood Feud, identify the biggest headline coming out of Bells despite the horrendous surf, survey the potential good that Firewire has done for local craftsmen shapers, get a reality check about their own obnoxious privilege, and warn of the dangers of calling your in-laws "mom" and "dad". Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:15:42

453 - Spit! April 8, 2026

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2026/04/08

In today's show Scott and David sift through the tiresome opening rounds of Bells and pull from decades of data to offer a solution for how the WSL can put the best surfers in the best waves, they lament their horrible Surfival picks, and then marvel at the brilliance of Ethan Ewing's savant level surfing in Sumbawa, and doff the cap at the unsung ghost shapers of surfing. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

01:20:15

366 - The Grit! April 3, 2026

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2026/04/03

In today's show David Lee Noem get's outed in the most provocative Doppelgänger yet, one surf commentator openly opines about a 21 year old surfer's derriere, RC surfers return to harass grumpy locals, the boys receive a call from Tom Curren's parrot, and get an update from the flooded front lines of the North Shore, and Sterling Spencer teaches how to lure an audience with the use of ASMR. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:34:48

590 - Rob Machado | The Surfrider Podcast

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2026/03/31

Legendary pro surfer Rob Machado is widely regarded as one of the most influential and stylish surfers of all time. But Rob's relationship with and impact on surfing and the ocean run much deeper than his professional career. In this episode, Rob shares about his deep family roots in Southern California and traces his personal journey as an ocean advocate — from taking water samples for Surfrider's Blue Water Task Force as a high school student in Cardiff to founding the Rob Machado Foundation,

54:28

589 - Gerry Lopez: PodAloha with Paul Strauch

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2026/03/31

Today's episode features a conversation between Gerry Lopez and early Hawaiian surf pioneer Paul Strauch. Strauch thanks Lopez for preventing crowds at Sunset, discuss the virtues of surfing pre-leash, reflect on the deeply integrated influence of Duke's spirit still in their lives and the special bond of communicating with him in native Hawaiian, growing up in Hawaii before statehood, surfing through the vast surfboard design evolution, and the essential role of mindfulness in the act of surfing

01:15:46

365 - The Grit! March 27, 2026

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2026/03/27

In today's show Chas reveals the story behind his new Surfer's Journal piece on Laird Hamilton as David reveals Laird latest display of ridiculousness, Slater is revealed as a fallen angel by the Fittest Flat Earther, and the boys learn why stretchy board shorts created their poor style, and how to smoke screen your friends on your next trip. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

55:03

588 - Greg Noll: PodAloha with Paul Strauch

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2026/03/27

Today's episode features a conversation between Greg Noll and early Hawaiian surf pioneer Paul Strauch. Noll and Strauch reflect on early lessons hard earned on North Shore in the 1960s, regale with stories of larger than life friends and waves, chart the path of how big wave surfing has developed from their early exploits, and recognize the tremendous gift that surfing was in their lives. PodAloha originally aired in 2019 and is being made available to you today through the Strauch family

01:52:23

587 - Skip Frye: PodAloha with Paul Strauch

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2026/03/26

Today's episode features a conversation between Skip Frye and early Hawaiian surf pioneer Paul Strauch. From Strauch, "Skip Frye is a legendary figure in the surfing world, renowned for his exceptional skills and significant contributions to surfboard design. With a career spanning several decades, Skip has been a key innovator, known for his work in shaping surfboards that have influenced modern surfing techniques and styles. His deep connection to the ocean and his expertise in big-wave surfing

01:20:46

364 - The Grit! March 20, 2026

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2026/03/20

In today's show The Grit! influence finds it's way to Tom Curren, Caio Ibelli delivers an ominous warning to new CT qualifiers, Israel joins the Tour, elitists SoCal surfers show how abandon your corporate overlords, Chas designs a plan to fix Malibu while David manifests never coveting it, and they begin a petition to get paternity wildcards for beleaguered WSL fathers-to-be. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:24:40

363 - The Grit! March 13, 2026

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2026/03/13

In today's episode David and Chas delve deep into the Harvey Weinstein and WSL connection and determine when to distance yourself from lecherous friends, analyze the veracity of Joel Tudor's accusations against Kelly Slater for his BJJ stolen belt valor, dig into the devastation of soft tops for the culture and the environment, learn the worst possible place to camp on a surf trip, and discover why you should definitely book dance lessons for you and your spouse. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:13:58

449 - Spit! March 11, 2026

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2026/03/11

In today's show David and Scott find the verified truth about the irrepressible Reno Abellira, sift through Joel Tudor's latest fiery tirade, update their Survival League with the latest CT qualifiers, take the toll on the environmental devastation caused by soft tops, take a peek inside the cult of Skip Frye, and bare witness to the single greatest ride ever at Puerto Escondido. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

01:27:15

362 - The Grit! March 6, 2026

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2026/03/06

In today's show Chas confronts (and maybe reconciles) his longboard spite, Tony Hawk teaches Kelly Slater a lesson in how to contribute to the surf community while David designs a plan for redemption for Slater through exorcism, Gerry Lopez gets outed as a member of an elite secret society, Steph becomes an actual Barbie doll, and we learn which is the best culinary contraband to bring into the lineup. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:37:40

361 - The Grit! February 28, 2026

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2026/02/28

In today's show David and Chas investigate the ISA's latest bid to devalue the WSL and bolster their own reputation as the governing body of competitive surfing, discover Taylor Knox's new career opportunity as Hollywood stunt double, one listener confronts a shocking revelation of how he almost imploded his happy marriage, and Chas is forced to reckon with a heartbreaking realization. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:23:44

586 - Brenden "Margo" Margieson

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2026/02/26

Genre defining pro freesurfer of the 90s, Margo, joins us to discuss ushering pro surfing from cottage to corporate, humility gleaned while working as a baggage handler, how a passion for bird watching led to his greatest work, and what sparked the revival in his surf career at age 50. Enjoy!

52:10

447 - Spit! February 26, 2026

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2026/02/26

In today's show Scott and David analyze whether longboarding still fits into their surf experience, the virtues of EPS, how the new ISA qualification system reveals a power move for a competing governing body of surfing and a wrestling of power away from the WSL, they profess a deep love for the people of Mexico in response to the recent wanton violence erupting in the streets, and debate the relevance of wave pool clips. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

01:34:42

360 - The Grit! February 20, 2026

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2026/02/20

In today's show David and Chas share the harrowing details of Kolohe's recent near tragedy, report on the massive shakeup underfoot of Gabriel Medina, pit Chris Hemsworth vs Josh Brolin in the ultimate surf celeb battle, learn why a pedicure may be the ultimate sign of a core surfer, and discover why rum may be JJF's secret weapon. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

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