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01:28:35

355 - The Grit! January 16, 2026

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2026/01/16

In today's episode Chas and David muster the courage to face their biggest childhood foes, they influence Kai Lenny into prone enlightenment, introspect about their desires to shame surf influencers out of the lineup, ask ChatGPT to help consolidate their quivers, and determine if it's ever okay to take a mint board on a surf trip. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:12:18

582 - Bob McTavish: Part Two

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2026/01/15

In today's episode Bob McTavish explains how one of his most iconic designs came to him in a dream and Joey Cabell's influence in it, he shares the inception of the swallowtail, his afternoon spent with Duke Kahanamoku, the epiphany he had at Rincon in 1967, why he renounced competition for a mortgage and children, climbing out of suffocating debt with an assist from the cast of Jackass, the board he most recently made for Kelly, and reveals the unsung surf heroes who most influenced his journey

01:13:54

441 - Spit! January 14, 2026

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2026/01/14

In today's episode Scott and David delve deep into the shapers personalities and tensions competing for the crown at Stab In The Dark X, character clashes, old rivalries revitalized, attempted marketing campaigns thwarted, and a shocking amount of design variation within a tight 27.5 liters, plus Kelly offers insights into recovery and optimization, and a 25 year old DJ takes December's Wave of the Winter title at Pipe. Plus Dukes, Kooks, and more! Enjoy!

59:12

581 - Bob McTavish: Part One

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2026/01/12

In today's episode Bob McTavish shares stories from surfing in an era prior to foam cores and surf wax, charts the path from dropping out of school to surf, to being homeless with only $10 to his name, to stowing away on a ship to Hawaii for the North Shore winter, the jail time that resulted, and he reveals the only two surfboards he's ever purchased in his life. Enjoy!

01:27:49

354 - The Grit! January 9, 2026

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2026/01/09

In today's show Chas and David examine the Blood Feud between former surf comic Jonathan Wayne Freeman and Simmons acolyte @Hydrodynamica, seeking to understand the moment wherein ideology rewires what one's eye's witness, they seek enlightenment in pursuit of Kelly Slater's ayahuasca journey, discover their own narrative arc paralleling that of The Grinch, feel the pang of frothstration, and uncover the inverse relationship between polyamory and collecting surfboards. Plus Barrel or Nah?

01:01:14

440 - Spit! January 9, 2025

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2026/01/09

In today's show David and Scott share the historic and untold stories shared by PT and Shaun Tomson at Surf Expo, dive into the influential showmanship of Peter Drouyn, spill spoilers from the upcoming Stab In The Dark x Kelly Slater, review day one of Da Hui Backdoor Shootout, and survey what boards and brands sold best in 2025. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

01:35:44

353 - The Grit! January 2, 2025

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2026/01/02

In today's show David and Chas pick up the pieces from NYE and embark on the New Year with intel about Tom Curren's hair dye, a new crown and title at Pipeline, a major shift from CT Champs that devalues legacy surf brands and spikes value in one surfer-owned brand, Jack Robinson offers you financial advice, shapers offer religious guidance, and we all learn difference between "butt hurt" and butt pleasure. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:15:44

439 - Spit! December 31, 2025

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2025/12/31

In today's show Scott and David pay homage to the pervasive Hoffman family legacy in California surfing, breakdown the massive sponsor disruptions in the top tier of men's surfing and what it reveals about surf industry economics, discuss the savvy and bias agenda to select a "Best Of The Year", and bid a final farewell to the surfing great's who kick out in 2025. Happy New Year and enjoy!

01:33:25

352 - The Grit! December 26, 2025

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2025/12/26

In today's show David and Chas recap the glory of Christmas and ponder the possibility of The Lost Week, count the number of times they've executed what they intended to do while surfing, survey two recent surfing Blood Feuds, perplex over Curren's hair color, Julian's shift to LGBTQ-friendly leisurewear, and map a winning plan for NYE. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:42:19

580 - Jeff Divine

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2025/12/24

Surf photographer and photo editor Jeff Divine's imagery has largely framed our perspective on North Shore surfing from the 70s and 80s. Today he shares stories from the era defining Expression Session in 1971, reveals that he didn't befriend Gerry Lopez until a decade after they had helped build one another's careers, he discusses how the inception of clothing brands altered surf mags editorial style, shares how to showcase personality through still imagery, the best photo he's ever missed, and how

01:09:22

438 - Spit! December 24, 2025

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2025/12/24

In today's show Scott and David attempt to identify which surfer had the most impact in 2025, note new potential surfing world records, analyze the pattern of symbiotic worldwide surfboard design evolution, dive deep into Reno Abellira's largely under appreciated contributions, and celebrate this season's unofficial Triple Crown winners. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

01:30:51

351 - The Grit! December 18, 2025

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2025/12/18

In today's show David and Chas discover why bodyboarding reigns supreme over surfing, learn the virtues of not getting paid, pro surfing gets litigious, JJF brands Pipeline and lobbies to become Mister, a pro surf Catfish stands trial for wanton domestic abuse, and learn why your mail carrier deserves a parting gift. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:41:35

579 - Max Stewart: Eye Symmetry Surfboards

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2025/12/16

In today's show board builder Max Stewart explains the inverse relationship between product quality and business growth, tales from early days at Hayden Shapes, how Tom Carroll has informed how he takes custom orders and why he factors your personality into the order card. Enjoy!

01:16:55

350 - The Grit! December 12, 2025

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2025/12/12

In today's show dingleberries Chas and David learn about Kelly's suspicious (alleged) scrubbing of the Internet, Bethany's threat from the WSL, Sterling gets Curren to finally run his mouth, the boys learn how surf music becomes iconic, why Chinese wax jobs are here to stay, and which vehicle value is too great to bring to the beach. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:39:38

578 - Matt Warshaw

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2025/12/12

In today's episode the Encyclopedia of Surfing's Matt Warshaw discusses the risks of having surf history chronicled by a single man, who's gotten short shrift on the EOS, how much and how little has changed in surf culture since the first magazine, an examination of pioneering female surf photographers, the first surfer to go at Backdoor, and why he got screamed at (and run over) on his most recent surf trip. Enjoy!

01:28:27

349 - The Grit! December 5, 2025

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2025/12/05

In today's show David and Chas review the nearly released Surfline footage that potentially captured UFO activity, predict the implications and wonder if Harry Bryant tapped into the resource, they learn how Dale Webster soothed a weary cord lord's Great White trauma, provide the ultimate holiday gifting guide, learn the beneficial chemical reaction of triethyl citrate, and explain the precise and only appropriate usage of "sick". Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

01:08:56

435 - Spit! December 5, 2025

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2025/12/05

In today's episode Scott and David learn why a swing might be the perfect gateway toy to learn to surf, Tanner Gudang keeps a thread of energy alive five decades on, Hugh Jackman violates an ancient surfing code and the WSL applauds him, MFeb narrows it down to the final four, and a 58 year man fends off the Grim Reaper at full sized Nazare. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

01:01:32

577 - Jordan Rodin

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2025/12/01

In today's episode Jordan Rodin joins us to chat about life lessons and hazing gleaned from Derek Hynd, make a case for heavier surfboards, explain his 5 year hiatus from getting barreled, why you should be stripping down used boards and reshaping them, what famous sculptors of centuries past can teach us about surfing, why sometimes the smallest movements can translate to the biggest things. Enjoy!

01:06:36

576 - John Philbin

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2025/11/30

In today's show actor John Philbin recounts his life as an escape artist, shares dangers of achieving one's life goals, the false paradigm of self-confidence, why he is not a good actor, how to reform a bitter and angry disposition, and why he doesn't trust anyone who isn't a hypocrite. Enjoy!

01:11:10

348 - The Grit! November 29, 2025

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2025/11/29

In today's show David and Chas innumerate a Gratitude List and explain why the modern era is the best time to be a surfer, welcome Benedict Cumberbatch into the brotherhood, honor Mom John as the greatest mother of all time, wonder where they'd be without surfing's quiet gift of discipline, realize that cold plunges are free, and explain why it's okay to pretend to be religious. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!

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