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The Chad & Cheese Podcast

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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong

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7:14

Shredded: LinkedIn, Craigslist, Ribbon, All Gravy,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/03

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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41:36

Return to Office is BS with Dr. Jessica Kriegel

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/04/01

In this riotous episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys drag Dr. Jessica Kriegel, Culture Partners’ Chief Strategy Officer, into the clown car of post-COVID work woes. They tackle the return-to-office (RTO) brouhaha like it’s a bad slapstick routine—is it a heroic charge back to the water cooler, or are we all just pratfalling into 2019 with pants that don’t fit anymore?Dr. Kriegel’s swinging the “adapt or flop” hammer, dubbing RTO a dusty VHS tape in a streaming world. The gang cackles

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46:22

Indeed Tanks & Starbucks Forces Joy

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/28

In the latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash dive into a mix of serious industry shifts and quirky tangents. They unpack Indeed’s traffic decline—down due to a 10% drop in job postings and competition from platforms like LinkedIn—while noting its erratic market moves and a pivot to online courses that’s missing the mark with tech candidates. History lesson alert! The duo traces job search evolution from simple boards to AI-driven tools, spotlighting

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6:49

Shredded: LinkedIn, Jolly, Lumber, Grayscale,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/27

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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13:03

Personal Branding for Recruiters with Orlando Haynes

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/25

Live from RecFest USA, The Chad & Cheese Podcast welcomes Orlando Haynes, North American talent acquisition lead at Mosaic. Orlando breaks down why personal branding is a game-changer for recruiters, offering practical tips on leveraging LinkedIn and navigating job searches after layoffs. He also shares how a strong personal brand can transform employees into powerful company ambassadors, boosting recruitment and client attraction. Catch this episode for smart strategies in today’s job

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51:13

Deel & Rippling Spy Games

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/21

This week, Chad, Joel, and Emi sink their teeth into a juicy HR tech showdown: Rippling’s suing Deel, alleging an espionage plot. Rippling accused Deel of planting Irishman Keith O’Brien in its Dublin office, where he allegedly ran 6,000 Slack searches for trade secrets—busted by a fake “#d-defectors” Slack channel. Things escalated when O’Brien trashed his phone during a court-ordered seizure on March 19. Deel’s firing back, denying it all and pointing to Rippling’s own baggage, like alleged

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7:42

Shredded: Deel, Rippling, ZipRecruiter, iCIMS,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/20

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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37:58

EUROPE: Regulation, Randstad, and a Tech Rumble

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/19

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast Does Europe, hosts Chad Sowash, Joel Cheesman, and the suavely named Lieven Van Nieuwenhuyze plunge headfirst into Europe’s recruitment jungle with all the grace of a tipsy tourist. They kick things off with a chuckle-fest intro—because who doesn’t love a podcast that roasts itself?—before Chad regales us with tales of cultural clashes, fresh from his Champions League pilgrimage (think soccer, not superheroes). The trio then pivots faster than a

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13:03

The Power of Diversity with Paige Elliott

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/17

Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, The Chad & Cheese Podcast welcomes Paige Elliott, Global Employer Brand Manager at Veeam Software. Paige shares why authentic diversity stories are critical to employer branding and how aligning internal culture with external messaging attracts talent. She offers practical tips on using video, written content, and audio to amplify diverse voices and build a sense of belonging. The conversation also delves into the growing scrutiny of DE&I commitments,

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47:47

Deel’s Cash Cannon vs. Remote’s Slingshot

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/14

In this week’s episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and career expert J.T. O'Donnell unpack a whirlwind of industry news with their signature wisdom and wit. Kicking things off, they celebrate all-things Chicken Cock whiskey, Keith Sonderling's confirmation at the DOL, cry a little over layoff stories on TikTok and then dive into Remote’s launch of Recruit, a new hiring tool billed as a breakthrough for sourcing global talent, though some question its lack of

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6:57

Shredded: Deel, iCIMS, ZipRecruiter, Fiverr, Remote,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/13

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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42:48

Immigration Game: Trump 2.0 Insights and Impacts

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/12

The Chad & Cheese Podcast looks to tackle immigration now that Trump is back in the Oval Office, roping in Wharton's Dr. Zeke Hernandez and VanHack's Ilya Brodsky for a wild ride through the immigration circus at home and abroad. They kick things off with the U.S., where the immigration system’s stuck in a time warp—deportations are up, sure, but it’s the same old song and dance despite politicians flapping their gums like over-caffeinated auctioneers. Globally, tech talent’s hotter than a

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13:22

A New Era for Employer Branding with Ashten Fizer

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/10

Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Chad & Cheese chat with Ashten Fizer, a dynamic talent brand creator, who brings fresh insights on employer branding to the table. What’s Inside: ✅ The real deal on why authenticity beats overproduced videos in today's branding world. ✅ How effective branding needs cross-department collaboration and creative design systems. ✅ Surprising insights into global recruitment strategies (Hint: LinkedIn isn’t always the answer!). ✅ How a genuine DEI approach

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53:22

LinkedIn Has a Serious Gen Z Problem

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/07

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and Maureen trade barbs and insights like a comedy duo on a caffeine bender before diving into heavier stuff like mental health in a world gone wacky, in addition to the latest news around the world of work.In a rollercoaster of a month, U.S. companies slammed the brakes on hiring, with ADP’s February private payrolls report showing a measly 77,000 jobs added—half of what the eggheads predicted and a steep drop from January’s beefy 186,000

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7:20

Shredded: Workday, Employ, ADP, Google, HeyMilo,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/06

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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30:43

2025 Vision Report for Talent

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/03/04

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash team up with the marketing maestro, Gina Alioto from Shaker Recruitment Marketing, to dive into the wild world of experiential marketing. They chat about how this approach can turn brand experiences into something you'd remember even if you had the memory of a goldfish, by tickling all your senses. Gina drops some knowledge bombs on why employer branding feels like it's stuck in the '90s compared to today's

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52:19

Indeed Lifts Walled Garden

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/02/28

Buckle up, job nerds—Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are back with J.T. O'Donnell, serving up the week’s employment chaos with a side of snark. Joann’s 800 fabric havens are kaput after 80 years—no buyer, 19,000 pink slips. DOGE is slashing like it’s Black Friday: 75,000 “voluntary” goodbyes, 1,000 at Veterans Affairs, 1,300 at Energy, 700 at the CDC—pundits say the total could top 100K, while Blue Origin (1,000) and Starbucks (1,100) join the layoff party, and Polywork’s a December corpse. Buy or

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7:37

Shredded: ZipRecruiter, Robert Half, Adecco, AMS,...

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/02/27

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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15:54

AI and The Future of Talent with Donald Knight

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/02/26

This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, we’re joined by Donald Knight, the People & Culture mastermind from Warner Bros. Discovery. We talk about:💰 The 2022 job market sequel—spoiler: execs are playing musical chairs, and salaries are getting wild. 🤖 AI panic in HR—why some CHROs are still clutching their pearls while others are stealing all the talent. 🎨 Recruiting as an art form—because if you’re not painting with AI yet, you’re about to get left in the dust. 🎭 Hollywood vs. The

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36:56

Firing Squad: Candidly's Hannah Peet

The Chad & Cheese Podcast ·

2025/02/24

In this episode, the boys chat with Hannah Peet, the co-founder of Candidly, an ATS so generic it's called "white-label." Hannah waxes poetic about her grand adventure in HR tech, explaining how Candidly plans to make hiring as simple as a kindergarten art project for SMBs. They dive into the thrilling world of partnerships and the start-ups focus on going to market on the backs of more established companies. What else? How about AI in candidate matching and don't forget the white-label magic

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