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The Meaning Code

Mapping the universe through discussions about physics, art, economics, philosophy, and more. The search for meaning through connections from one domain of knowledge to another. Finding the code that connects the substructures of the universe. For video recordings of these podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgp_r6WlBwDSJrP43Mz07GQ Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/klwong43 View my art here: https://karenwongartcom

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80:40

Is AI Alignment Possible before we have Aligned...

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2023/05/09

Balazs Kegl, a computer scientist with a PhD in AI joins today for a discussion about recognizing the danger inherent in the fears that surround the rapid development of AI. Also available on Youtube.A wide ranging conversation that includes ideas that come from the following resources: Balazs Kegl's Substack: https://balazskegl.substack.com/p/the-case-for-aligning-the-ai-scientist The AI Dilemma: https://youtu.be/xoVJKj8lcNQ Alignment experiments, here both the text and the video are vital

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86:14

Matthew Segall of Footnotes2Plato: An Invitation to...

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2023/05/03

Matt Segall weaves together the thought of Descartes, Kepler and Alfred North Whitehead in a deep synthesis with biology, physics, cognitive science and theology. Timestamps in comments. Matt Segall's website is full of great resources, videos, articles, online classes, etc. https://footnotes2plato.com/about/ His article, the Universe as a Work of Art: Images of the Cosmos in Plato Descartes and Kepler: https://footnotes2plato.com/2011/08/16/the-universe-as-a-work-of-art/ Matt's conversation with

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90:10

Ian Glendinning, aka Psybertron, on Complex Systems...

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2023/05/01

Timestamps 00:00 Introduction 05:32 Geeky Kid to Engineer: Ian Glendinning's Journey Ian Glendinning is an engineer from the northeast of England who has had a long career in the energy business. He grew up as a geeky kid, reading Jacob Bronofsky's Ascent of Man and excelling in STEM subjects. 14:41 Exploring the Complexities of Information Management Ian Glendinning and Karen Wong discuss the complexities of information management, from the physical technology mismatch between office-based design

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80:23

The Hunger for Reality - The Hunger for...

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2023/04/28

Karen and Matt discuss reality, transhumanism, attention and habit formation. The Mary Harrington video clip starts at around 25:00: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy9t-VLrzU&t=1503s The video w Jonathan Pageau, beginning at about 18:00, but the whole thing is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbZk_YDex2E&t=2s The video on bacteria I mentioned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXWurAmtf78 The prayer book Matt mentioned, Orthodox Christian Prayers: https://stmpress.com/ Maximos the

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84:28

Marriage as the Pattern of the Crucible that Unites...

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2023/04/24

Matt and I explore the concepts of rootedness versus stuckness, and discuss how these might work out in the idea of marriage, not just the covenant of marriage, but the way that the idea of marriage is near the very beginning of everything. The summary from AI.Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 00:21 Discussing the Concepts of Being Rooted and Stuck00:06 Karen Wong and Matthew Dean Allison discuss two concepts that have come up in the last month since they last talked: being rooted and being stuck. They bring

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87:04

Love is a Reception that Transforms: The World is a...

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2023/04/21

Sevilla and Karen consider some of the main points from the recent conversation with D C Schindler and how his work may relate to the work of Robert Pirsig (Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance). Here's the AI summary:-) Karen and Sevilla King discussed the idea that love is the source of all being, and that beauty is the interface with reality that allows us to recognize and love God. They discussed how beauty changes us inwardly and how it is received and transforms the appetite. How the left

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92:53

Mind of the Maker: The Relational Nature of Love and...

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2023/04/18

Karen and Ryan continue their discussion of Dorothy Sayers' classic, The Mind of the Maker, using Chapters 7 and 8 as a starting point. Here's the AI summary of the talk. Timestamps0:00 IntroReflections on a message about the hunger for righteousness and how it relates to impostor syndrome. How the law intensifies sin and how Eve chose to fill her hunger for righteousness with the knowledge of good and evil instead of companionship with God. How impostor syndrome can have both a good and bad side,

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83:22

Bruce Ecker on Coherence Therapy and Memory...

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2023/04/10

Bruce Ecker, MA, LMFT, Licensed Psychotherapist, joins the Meaning Code to discuss intersections of Coherence Therapy, Memory Reconsolidation and Listening with This Little Corner of the Internet. This episode is also on YouTube.He speaks of the indelibility of sub-cortical emotional conditioning but also the hope that there is a key to unlock, expose and ultimately nullify the emotional learning that lead to problems in later life.Timestamps may follow later, depending on how much time I have. But

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93:09

Psalm 22 and the Pattern of the Crucifixion

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2023/04/07

Stephen and Karen read and discuss Psalm 22 in preparation for Easter

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82:33

Love and the Postmodern Predicament with D. C. Schindler

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2023/04/03

D. C. Schindler joins Karen and Michael to discuss his book, Love and the Postmodern Predicament. We talk about the centrality of love and beauty, and of the nature of Being and Becoming. D. C. Schindler is professor of metaphysics and anthropology at the John Paul II Institute, Washington, DC. He is the author of eleven books, including Plato's Critique of Impure Reason, Freedom from Reality: The Diabolical Character of Modern Liberty, and many others.

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88:47

Money and Reality: Exploring Austrian Economics and...

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2023/04/01

Brad, a mechanical designer with an interest in measurement, and Ira, a physicist working in fluid mechanics with an interest in Austrian economics, join Karen to discuss Roy Sebag's new book, The Natural Order of Money. This episode is also on Youtube at The Meaning code channel.Along the way, we discuss time, measurement, inflation, economic stability and instability and digital currency v. gold as a standard. Previous videos with these guests: Brad on Measurement, Part 1:

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97:14

Truth v. Lies: Terminology Matters. How should we...

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2023/03/31

Kale Zelden, English teacher and practicing Catholic, joins Karen to discuss Social Justice, its various meanings and the difficulties with clarity of communciation around these ideas. References discussed: Spe Salvi (In Hope We are Saved, Cardinal Ratzinger) Readings on the 1st Vatican Council - Timothy O'Malley George Orwell's essay on Politics and the English Language: https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/politics-and-the-english-language/

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80:38

Where is it Stored? Worlds in Collision: Plato,...

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2023/03/28

Karen and Sevilla discuss the concept that God is personal rather than a force, and look at Jonathan Pageau's definition, including the idea of identity always being one level up. The multiplicity and unity nested all the way up. This leads to looking at Plotinus at one end of the spectrum and current moves in science, bioengineering and morphogenesis at the other. Numbers and numerals Bell curve Logic gates Where are they all stored? God as a communion of love, creating out of the overflow of love,

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83:41

The Mind of the Maker, Part 2: The Greater the...

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2023/03/21

Ryan and I continue our conversation about the elements and principles of art, the creative trinity as set forth by Sayers, and the questions that arise concerning faith, science, principles versus rules and what is meant, creatively speaking, by right and wrong. This episode is also on YouTube: https://youtu.be/wHoK6boKLkEQuote from the Mind of the Maker:"That being so, how can we know that the Idea itself has any real existence apart from the Energy? Very strangely, by the fact that the Energy

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80:44

Gavin Ashenden on Jordan Peterson's Reaction to...

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2023/03/18

In this conversation, we are reacting to an article that Gavin wrote in the Catholic Herald about something Jordan Peterson wrote in a tweet response to the Pope, @pontifex on twitter. Here is the article: https://catholicherald.co.uk/jordan-petersons-twitter-spat-with-pope-francis/ A quote from the article: "What had the Pope written to provoke the world’s most popular psychologist to lay down a Twitter challenge? '#socialjustice demands that we fight against the causes of poverty: inequality and

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98:18

The Proper Place of the Mystical and the Prescience...

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2023/03/14

Video links follow notes: This episode is on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZqTA2QJIhTAStephen Hurn's background is in software development, and his passion is science fiction as literature and the consideration of truth. There was so much hope in programming during the '90's that technology would free us from menial facts, but... The new atheists fought against the straw man of the god of the gaps but failed at explaining the mechanisms behind the world. Godel - for every rational system (the universe

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102:39

Is Emergence "Good"? Is Gnosticism connected to the...

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2023/02/28

Discussing Mark's tweet:The difference between 'being is good' and 'emergence is good' cannot be understated. One is actually good, the other is actually just #Gnosticism.Mark talks fast:-) You might want to put it on .75, but thenI talk slow, so maybe not:-)This conversation is also available on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Ohd7jDO-PyMWe look mostly at emergence, how faith in emergence tends to overlap with gnosticism, we look at some of the questions in evolutionary theory.The example of "emergence"

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99:01

The Mind of the Maker by Dorothy Sayers: a Discussion...

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2023/02/21

Ryan and Karen dig into the ideas in Dorothy Sayers' eye opening work on creativity and through that lens to get a look into the principles that lie at the foundation of the universe.

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81:06

From Quaternion Mathematics to Meaning: Longing to...

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2023/02/17

Discussion with Stephen Hurn, Software Engineer for 18 years. Now working on Game Design and Writing, stay at home Dad. This episode is also on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Di_vUSQw-J0The design process for video games. Levels you operate in. Mechanics (the interaction with the user) up through Dynamics to aesthetic. Aesthetic (idea) informs the process and gets communicated through mechanics. That's the meaning layer. Quaternion Mathematics, 3-D software, triangles and measures Code is like a plan

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79:55

Negating the Real: Discussing James Lindsey's Latest...

The Meaning Code ·

2023/02/14

Michael and Karen discuss a lecture James Lindsay gave on the dangers of the philosophies that have captured the present moment. We try to thread the needle through the truly beneficial part of James' lecture and the parts where he might be speaking outside his expertise.

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