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The Meaning Code

Mapping the universe through discussions about physics, art, economics, philosophy, and more. The search for meaning through connections from one domain of knowledge to another. Finding the code that connects the substructures of the universe. For video recordings of these podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgp_r6WlBwDSJrP43Mz07GQ Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/klwong43 View my art here: https://karenwongartcom

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109:26

Approach the Sacred: Offer Gratitude, Dwell in...

The Meaning Code ·

2025/10/23

Dr. Iain McGilchrist and Dr. Chris E W Green join The Meaning Code to speak of the way back from our current wandering in the wilderness. Introductions to the two follow the timestamps, which regrettably only cover the first hour. If anyone wants to add the second hour, go for it. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:00 Reflections on Spirituality and Hope 01:25 Iain McGilchrist reads poem by Hermes Trismegistus 06:37 The impact of Reductionism on Art and Experience 13:16 The interplay of Death, Life

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97:32

Grey Hamilton on Friends, Family and Flourishing

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2025/09/20

Grey Hamilton, a 28 year old husband and father, joins Karen to discuss relationships, education and the impact of societal changes on family and community dynamics.

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72:14

Cassidy Van der Kamp on the Breakwater Festival,...

The Meaning Code ·

2025/09/18

Cassidy joins the Meaning Code to talk about the excitement around the upcoming Breakwater Festival in Culemborg, The Netherlands from November 7-9, 2025She also fills us in on past conferences, and what to expect at this one.For more information:Breakwater Festival Culemborg, The Netherlands: November 7-9 2025Crowdfunding/Pre-sale ticket link: https://igg.me/at/BackingBreakwaterBreakwater Email: contact.breakwater@gmail.com

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82:25

9 Steps to Build a Life of Meaning by Rick Walker:...

The Meaning Code ·

2025/08/16

Rick Walker, Entrepreneur, Podcast Host and Author joins The Meaning Code to discuss his new book, 9 Steps to Build a Life of Meaning, (endorsed by both John Vervaeke and Paul VanderKlay) which tells the hard fought lessons he has learned through trauma, loss and building multiple businesses while doing his best as a husband and father. Book Link: https://a.co/d/6fjDRXr Rick Walker website: https://rickwalker.com Rick Walker Podcast, also available on pod bean, Spotify and YouTube

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90:25

Play as a Metaphor for understanding the Dynamic and...

The Meaning Code ·

2025/08/07

Chris Green is Professor of Public Theology at Southeastern University (Lakeland, FL), Bishop of the Diocese of St Anthony (CEEC), and Director for St Anthony Institute of Theology, Philosophy, and Liturgics. He is the author and editor of a number of books, including most recently All Things Beautiful: An Aesthetic Christology. (cewgreen.com) Discussion topics: Theological Concepts of Creation and Christology Dynamics of Optimization and Context in Natural Selection Metaphors in Music and Existence

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91:35

AI, Language and Art through the Lens of Coding,...

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2025/07/31

Intersection of AI, Language, and Psychology The hardware and software distinction in language processing. Programming languages build layers of abstraction that relate to human cognition. The Creative Process: Hardware vs. Software Creative process in painting, compared to coding, highlighting the need to transform abstract ideas into tangible forms. This iterative process is similar to scientific investigation and everyday decision-making. The Hardware-Software Distinction in Perception Parallels

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70:00

an Linguistic Systems: What can we learn from AI...

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2025/07/24

Michael and Karen consider the theories of Elan Barenholtz, an Associate Professor of Psychology at Florida Atlantic University. His self-description: "I use behavioral and embedded computational approaches (i.e. neural networks running in robots) to study the brain and behavior with the goal of developing a broad theoretical framework of neural function." The videos that Michael and Karen were discussing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca_RbPXraDE with Curt Jaimungal, Elan Barenholtz and William

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81:05

Why Isn't Your Story Working? Storycraft analysis of...

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2025/07/11

Exploring Story Craft and the Intersection of Faith and Hollywood with Justin Wells, filmmaker of documentaries, professor teaching documentary and story craft. On X as @onejwells https://www.youtube.com/@justinsmorningcoffee Seeing Story Structure through the lens of Complexity Theory Justin elaborates on the five-act structure of storytelling, emphasizing the importance of updating a character's mental map as they navigate challenges. He connects this process to complexity theory, outlining the

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82:03

Infinite and Finite, Call and Response, What We Do...

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2025/06/12

Matthew Allison discusses the metaphysical and theological implications of infinity plus the influence of dualism and Gnosticism on philosophical discussions. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:30 Matthew on the Infinite 06:00 Heidegger 06:55 Wittgenstein 08:00 The significance of chiasms in biblical texts and how they reflect divine inspiration 14:00 Phenomenology 22:00 Reflections on Hebrews chapter 11, focusing on the theme of faith and the biblical figures who endured suffering without receiving God's

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97:45

The Depths of Time: an Exploration of Julian...

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2025/06/05

Karen and Haris explore Julian Barbour's theory of time and the universe, "nothing without ratios" while discussing the role of ratios in both mathematical theories and artistic expression.

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100:45

AI Researcher and C S Lewis Scholar discuss Language,...

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2025/05/22

Balazs Kegl, Head of AI Research for Huawei Paris, meets Annie Crawford, C S Lewis Scholar, to discover the crossovers between AI research and Lewis' concept of transposition of the higher into the lower, also looking at Michael Levin's Bowtie Theory, Chiastic Structures and Modes of Knowing. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro and overview of AI and Transposition 13:17 Exploring AI Text Generating and style adaptation 15:31 Understanding Randomness in AI Outputs 20:10 Consciousness and Communication27:04 C S

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84:12

The Unbelievable Complexities of Music: Lenses,...

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2025/05/08

Drew, with a master's in ethnomusicology and a voracious interest in all things music, joins The Meaning Code today to open up the ancient view of music as relationships, balance, proportion. Through the lens of Aristoxenus and Boethius, we explore -memory as the mother of the muses -the original meaning of Harmonia as proportion and balance -relationships between notes in a melody -principles of Melos - realign, reharmonizes body, soul, mind -dunamis (function - power & potential) Music doesn't

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85:17

Metamodernism, Transcending Critique, Optimal Degrees...

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2025/04/26

Brendan Graham Dempsey and Cory Barker help Karen to gain a greater understanding of Metamodernism. Brendan is writer, poet, farmer, and systems thinker. As Director of Sky Meadow Institute, he works on productively bridging the divide between science and spirituality. Cory has a Master of Arts in Social Science and Informatics and is working on a PhD with a research focus on applying big picture thinking to improved AGI design. He serves as President of the Archdisciplinary Research Center

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79:36

C. S. Lewis' Essays on Transposition and Bulverism

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2025/04/05

Brantley Vosler, host of the Transposition Podcast, joins Karen to talk about C S Lewis' essay of that name, as well as Lewis' argument against Bulverism. Along the way, we dive into the symbolism of Silo! Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:00 Exploring the Concept of Transposition 09:08 The Transposition of Ideas in Music 14:26 Vertical Causation and Spirituality 20:50 Themes of Power and Weakness in Scripture 27:34 Symbolism in "Silo" and Christian Hope 37:04 Discussion on Themes of Hope and Love in

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96:44

Neal asks: Is beauty an independent force in nature,...

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2025/01/21

Neal initiated a discussion on the intersection of evolutionary principles and human social phenomena, particularly in relation to organizations and art. He critiqued the dominant scientific perspective that views beauty as a byproduct of natural selection, proposing instead that beauty and design principles are independent evolutionary forces. Neal introduced a dual force model that includes a push away from vulnerability and a pull towards an instinct for quality and beauty, referencing eight

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71:06

Seeing Progressivism through the Rear View Mirror

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2025/01/17

Karen Wong and Joy Frimpong engage in a conversation about progressivism, exploring how Joy's educational experiences contributed to her understanding of the ideology. Joy notes that while she can't point to a specific moment of indoctrination, the influence of media and cultural narratives played a significant role in shaping her views. She describes this influence as a "cultural dis-ease" that permeated her academic environment. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:00 The nature of progressivism and its

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93:00

Tyler on pathfinding algorithms for building...

The Meaning Code ·

2025/01/14

Tyler Hollett, a problem-solver and facilitator within Discord communities, shares insights from his journey through various online spaces and the creation of the Metagora project, which aims to streamline educational curricula within a community setting. They conclude by discussing the potential of Tyler's website, which features a dynamic visual representation of available knowledge along with opportunities presented by challenges as catalysts for growth and innovation. Timestamps: 00:00 Exploring

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82:41

The Narrative Format of Language, Art-making and...

The Meaning Code ·

2025/01/10

Michael has been a regular on The Meaning Code discussing such topics as Owen Barfield, data compression and radical orthodoxy, and today, he joins to consider the meaning and role of narrative. Topics Covered: Exploring Particle Self-Organization The Limits of Objective Perspective in Science and Transcendence Computational Epistemology and Meaning in Tradition Exploring Desires and Identity through the Lens of Jesus The Intersection of Science and Christianity Evolution of Scientific Narratives

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93:45

Artistic Expression as a Path to a Healed Life: The...

The Meaning Code ·

2024/12/05

Much of this conversation can be enjoyed In podcast form, but if you want to see Lester's art during the discussion, the YouTube format would be better.https://youtu.be/DsLS-vojqt4A rich dialogue between Karen Wong and Lester Rappaport, focusing on their artistic journeys and the intellectual influences (Jordan Peterson and John Vervaeke, among others) that have shaped their work: The conversation sets a collaborative tone, with both participants exploring their artistic processes and the broader

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84:52

The Transforming Power of Constant Surprise: Further...

The Meaning Code ·

2024/11/28

Brantley Vosler is a worship pastor and joins Karen to talk about the nature of meaning as it relates to music, as a language and as a path forward.

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