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The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession

Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals

Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

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All Episodes

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Ep 440 – The Business of Paper: “Business or...

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2024/05/31

Paper is everywhere in a small business. In this episode of Business or Pressure, host Allissa Haines discusses how to handle it properly and even reduce the use of paper when possible. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Resources: https://www.abmp.com/updates/blog-posts/4-steps-managing-business-paperwork

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21:03

Ep 439 – Feeling Anatomy: Your Practice in 3D with...

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2024/05/28

Being a skillful feeler is a huge part of what we do in the massage room. And beyond being a good palpator, our touch influences the anatomy our clients feel. In this second episode in our three-part series “Your Practice in 3D,” we discuss the concept of feeling anatomy from the point of view of both the therapist and the client and how AnatomySCAPES dissection lab trainings are improving therapists’ ability to understand the anatomy they touch. Resources and Author Links: Journey Into the

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19:43

Ep 438 – Challenging Ourselves with Self-Inquiry

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2024/05/21

What’s the difference between coaching, counseling, and psychotherapy? In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Angie Parris-Raney is joined by Mary McEvilly-Hernandez, a master certified and professional coach, to discuss what the framework of coaching consists of, how it requires presence, deep listening, and curiosity, and how it’s a transferable skill for massage therapists. After growing increasingly uncomfortable in corporate America, Mary McEvilly-Hernandez built a coaching practice in 2011 to

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13:06

Ep 437 – Dual Relationships in Your Massage Business:...

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2024/05/17

The mix of money, business, and family can be tricky. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines provides some tips to add structure and avoid resentment in these potentially awkward situations. Resources: www.calm.com Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Author links:

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16:38

Ep 436 - Pulmonary Fibrosis—An Aberrant Matrix: “I...

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2024/05/14

A person with rheumatoid arthritis and lupus develops new back pain in her mid-upper left side. It feels like “it’s coming from under my ribs,” she says. First, it’s diagnosed as arthritis, but interventions don’t seem to make a difference. Finally, a year into this unremitting pain, a rheumatologist asks about her breathing and discovers she has developed a complication called pulmonary thrombosis, probably related to her autoimmune diseases. They start treatment and voilà, her back pain is

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14:20

Ep 435 - The Greater Omentum: The Greatest Superhero...

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2024/05/07

The Greater Omentum is one of the cooler parts of our anatomy. So cool, in fact, that it is deserving of superhero status. In this episode of The Rebel MT, Allison takes a look at this incredible piece of our viscera and unveils what she believes its superhero name should be. Host:      Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com      Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com          Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at

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11:29

Ep 434 – Saving for Time Away from Work: “Business or...

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2024/05/03

Emergency funds are for emergencies, but how do we save for planned time away from our businesses? Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines walks through the process of saving money for a leave of absence. Resources: Ep 425 - Budgets and Savings in Your Massage Business https://www.abmp.com/podcasts/ep-425-budgets-and-savings-your-massage-business-business-or-pressure-allissa-haines Foster Creative Design https://www.fostercreativedesign.com/ Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing

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23:23

Ep 433 – Simons and Feldenkrais: A Retrospective Look...

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2024/04/30

Two names that are well known within the bodywork community—Dr. David Simons, author of Myofascial Pain and Dysfunction: The Trigger Point Manual, and Moshe Feldenkrais, engineer, physicist, and founder of the Feldenkrais Method. Who were these pioneers in the bodywork profession and what can we learn from their origins? Resources: Myofascial Pain and Dysfunction: The Trigger Point Manual: https://www.amazon.com/Myofascial-Pain-Dysfunction-Trigger-Manual/dp/0683083635 Feldenkrais Method:

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31:03

Ep 432 – Walking That Fine Line of Friendship and...

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2024/04/23

Darren Buford is joined by Cal Cates, founder of Healwell, to discuss the concept of co-regulation in therapeutic relationships, how to balance a welcoming and friendly atmosphere while maintaining professionalism, navigating boundaries while still fostering trust, and techniques that could help ensure that client interactions are supportive, balanced and professional. Cal Cates is an educator, writer, and speaker on topics ranging from massage therapy in the hospital setting to

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08:37

Ep 431 – Avoiding the Sunk Cost Trap: “Business or...

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2024/04/19

Sometimes, we overvalue the time, energy, or money we put into a project, which clouds our decision-making. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines talks about the sunk cost trap—and how to avoid it—in your massage business. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Author links:

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15:18

Ep 430 - Fentanyl Patches – Another Look: “I Have a...

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2024/04/16

A client uses fentanyl patches to manage chronic pain from a back injury. What kind of risk does this present to the therapist? And, if we’re not careful, the bigger risk might be to the client. Check it out on this episode of “I Have a Client Who . . .” with Ruth Werner. Resources: Cai, B., Engqvist, H. and Bredenberg, S. (2015) ‘Development and evaluation of a tampering resistant transdermal fentanyl patch’, International Journal of Pharmaceutics, 488(1), pp. 102–107. Available at:

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13:54

Ep 429 -The Thumb: The Rogue Digit: “The Rebel MT”...

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2024/04/09

The thumb seems to live in its own reality. That's because it does. In this episode of the Rebel MT, Allison describes how the thumb is like a digit that has gone rogue and explains how getting to understand its plane of existence can help how you approach this funny piece of anatomy. Host:                  Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com            Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com                    Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber

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21:43

Ep 428 – Lower Expenses and Increase Income in Your...

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2024/04/05

Small, practical adjustments help your massage business run more efficiently, so you take home more of the money you earn. Tune in to this episode of Business or Pressure to hear money saving tips, as well as how to generate more income. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Author links:

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Ep 427 – Connect, Encourage and Acknowledge with...

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2024/04/02

Have you ever noticed how clients talk about their pain? All too often people express negativity and even outright anger toward their bodies, which is counterproductive to healing. Join Cindy as she shares a simple method to increase awareness and encourage a healthy relationship and communication style when working with clients (and also yourself!) Host: After earning a degree in Sociology from Indiana University in 1997, Cindy Williams stumbled upon her calling as a massage therapist and

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Ep 426 – 5 Words to Inspire Any Practitioner with...

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2024/03/26

Join Kristin Coverly, ABMP director of professional education, as she asks four leaders in the massage and bodywork field, “What’s your five-word piece of advice for practitioners?” Gain inspiration you can immediately apply to your professional and personal lives! Resources: ABMP CE Summit: https://www.abmp.com/summit ABMP Education Center: https://www.abmp.com/learn/ “A Field Guide to Color” by Lisa Solomon, http://www.lisasolomon.com/books.html “From Strength to Strength” by

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19:32

Ep 425 – Budgets and Savings in Your Massage...

The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage &... ·

2024/03/22

Planning how to spend and save money in your business is not always intuitive. Allissa walks us through some strategies for intentional spending and saving to keep your business sustainable. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Author links: Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community Instagram:

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16:31

Ep 424 – Cancer, Clots, and COVID—A Complicated...

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2024/03/19

A client was recently treated for colon cancer—and it didn’t go well. She had surgical complications, a bout of sepsis, and more. She has substantial abdominal scar tissue, which is giving her a lot of pain. But after finding a massage therapist who is helping a lot, things are looking up . . . until she gets COVID. And now she’s having a long, slow recovery. The highly educated MT wants a little more information about COVID-related clot risk before they go back to work. How can they determine when

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15:10

Ep 423 – What’s In A Name? Trigger Finger: “The Rebel...

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2024/03/12

Inflammation may not be romantic, but William Shakespeare was on to something. In this episode of The Rebel MT, join Allison as she merges the worlds of the repetitive strain disorder known as trigger finger (or stenosing tenosynovitis) and the form of poetry known as iambic pentameter into iambic digitorum pentameter. Host:      Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com            Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com                    Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and

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15:45

Ep 422 – Handling Taxes in Your Massage Business:...

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2024/03/08

Understanding how small business taxes are filed and what information to gather in preparation is crucial for a smooth tax season. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines discusses the steps to help you be your tax preparer’s favorite client. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Author links:

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24:08

Ep 421 – Assessment for Treatment Success with...

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2024/03/05

Assessment is a critical part of helping people who come to see you. Many people may have had some initial exposure to assessment in basic training, but have you really made it an integral part of your practice? In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Whitney explores the crucial importance of assessment and how it impacts your treatment success. It really doesn’t matter if you are working in a clinical setting or doing wellness-related relaxation massage. Everyone is doing some degree of assessment

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