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Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein

In-depth interview podcast with leading corporate governance experts, including world-class founders, scholars, board members, executives, investors and more. The content is structured as a long-form conversation to explore not only the latest corporate governance trends, but also to get some personal insights from some of the best and brightest minds behind America"s boardrooms.

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00:55:52

Stephen Davis: On the Rise of Investor Stewardship.

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2023/02/06

0:00 -- Intro.2:12 -- Start of interview.3:00 -- Stephen's "origin story". His start with IRRC in Washington, DC (1988). His focus on international corporate governance.7:01 -- The anti-Apartheid divestment campaign in South Africa. "Most people don't quite realize that in the U.S. the real corporate governance movement -what we might call today the ESG movement- stems from the campaign for anti-Apartheid sanctions and divestment." (early 1970s).10:27 -- On the historical background of investor

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00:51:42

Mario Mancuso: Geopolitics, National Security and...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2023/02/01

0:00 -- Intro.1:42 -- Start of interview.3:31 -- Mario's "origin story". 9:25 -- The origin, evolution and impact of CFIUS. "The (regulatory) process is the bottle, national security is the wine." The driver of CFIUS is national security.13:11 -- On the Foreign Investment Risk Review Modernization Act of 2018 (FIRRMA). 18:18 -- His recommendation on how boards should think about CFIUS matters. His book: "A Dealmaker’s Guide to CFIUS: Answers to Common Questions from Boards, Bankers and

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00:42:59

Joe Grundfest: 2022 in Review and Governance Trends...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2023/01/23

0:00 -- Intro.1:50 -- Start of interview.4:09 -- His take on the state of capital markets. From the highs of 2021 to the lows of 2022: the impact of interest rates in asset valuations.6:59 -- On tech layoffs. "The effects on the labor market are not as large as the numbers suggest."8:34 -- The impact of downturn on public and private investors.10:07 -- On AI, ChatGPT and the emergence of this new technology.12:45 -- On the crypto industry and its regulation challenges. "There is going to be more

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01:03:36

Peter Gleason: "We Look at Board Directorships as a...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2023/01/05

0:00 -- Intro.1:31 -- Start of interview.1:57 -- Peter's "origin story". 2:40 -- His career prior to NACD, including at Institutional Shareholder Services (ISS). Peter joined NACD in 2000.4:52 -- On the origin and mission of the National Association of Corporate Directors (NACD). Founded in 1977 by John Nash. Today the organization has grown to 23,000+ members. 7:02 -- About the NACD Directorship Certification (created three years ago). About 2,800 candidates have registered, and about ~1,100 have

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00:58:22

Lydia Beebe: On Corporate Secretaries and the...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/12/26

0:00 -- Intro.1:40 -- Start of interview.2:25 -- Lydia's "origin story". 3:35 -- On her career at Chevron, particularly as Corporate Secretary and Chief Governance Officer. She was the first woman elected Officer at Chevron.7:22 -- On board agendas.10:28 -- On how the Corporate Secretary and Chief Governance Officer roles have evolved in U.S. public corporations. 13:56 -- Her personal path to corporate board memberships.[14:36] HCC Insurance Holdings (acquired one year after she joined)[15:19]

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00:53:55

Bob Zukis, CEO of the Digital Directors Network: On...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/12/19

0:00 -- Intro.1:38 -- Start of interview.2:06 -- Bob's "origin story". His professional career with PwC and management consulting globally.4:31 -- On globalization, China and current geopolitical tensions.6:14 -- His career post PwC. He led a venture-backed SaaS company and became an Adjunct Professor at USC.7:28 -- About the Digital Directors Network, focused on digital and cybersecurity in the boardroom. "It's an educational/training, advocacy and advisory platform."11:40 -- The value of digital

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00:49:26

Mary Cranston: "A Good Strategic Lawyer Should Be a...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/12/12

0:00 -- Intro.1:34 -- Start of interview.2:28 -- Mary's "origin story". About her legal career at Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP. On the influence of Toni Rembe on her board career. 9:13 -- On her transition to a board career, and lawyers as corporate directors. "Boards have prejudice against putting lawyers on boards. I think that is wrong and extremely short sighted [But I think we are starting to see a real trend of more lawyers on boards.]" The ABA and Catalyst's DirectWomen Initiative

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01:00:12

Insights from Silicon Valley: Who’s Up, What’s Down &...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/12/05

0:00 -- Intro [Evan Epstein]1:30 -- Intro [David Beatty]3:50 -- Start of interview.4:55 -- Discussion on unicorns. [see research on unicorn exits]. 9:17 -- On the rise of private markets.11:57 -- On startup governance.15:31 -- The importance of governance in downturns (in contrast to bull markets).16:32 -- Elon Musk and his companies.18:42 -- On layoffs in the tech industry this year.20:05 -- How boards are adapting to the "digital tsunami" (board composition: age, 'tech savvy' directors, etc).23:21

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01:16:11

Bill McNabb: Talent, Strategy and Risk. How Investors...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/11/28

0:00 -- Intro.2:21 -- Start of interview.3:14 -- Bill's "origin story". 6:57 -- On why he joined Vanguard in 1986, and what makes the company so special. "Intellectual rigor of Wall Street with mid-western values."10:30 -- On Bill's board career. He first joined the Philadelphia Zoo (he stepped down this summer after 16 years) and currently serves on the boards of UnitedHealthcare Group and IBM, plus other PE and VC-backed companies and non-profit boards. The connection between public and private

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01:00:00

Susan Angele and Stephen Brown: Insights from the...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/11/21

0:00 -- Intro.2:09 -- Start of interview.2:54 -- Susan's "origin story". 4:18 -- Stephen's "origin story". 6:24 -- The origin and mission of the KPMG Board Leadership Center. It started with the Audit Committee Institute in 1999.12:12 -- The progress on board diversity and onboarding insights for new directors. Example: Board Readiness Program from LCDA. "Two important elements for new directors to think about: 1) to deeply understand the role of the board and how that differs from management, and

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00:58:50

Henry Sanderson: Volt Rush, the Winners and Losers in...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/11/14

0:00 -- Intro.2:10 -- Start of interview.3:00 -- Henry's "origin story". His other book "China's Superbank: Debt, Oil and Influence - How China Development Bank is Rewriting the Rules of Finance") (2012)5:03 -- His current role at Benchmark Mineral Intelligence.6:09 - The origin of his book Volt Rush: The Winners and Losers in the Race to Go Green (2022).10:09 -- On the new battery age and the origin of lithium-ion batteries for EVs.12:53 -- On Contemporary Amperex Technology (CATL) and its

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00:52:05

Alison Davis: "U.S. Boards Could Benefit From More...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/10/17

0:00 -- Intro.2:08 -- Start of interview.2:45 -- Alison's "origin story". 5:07 -- Her experience in management consulting with McKinsey & Co and Kearney.5:49 -- Her experience as CFO at Barclays Global Investors (now BlackRock) and with private equity as the managing director of Belvedere Capital, focused on investing in US banks and financial services firms. The challenges of banking post-financial crisis and Dodd-Frank (2010).9:26 -- Her pivot to fintech and blockchain investing. Since 2014

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00:55:16

Nora Denzel: On the Future of the American Board.

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/10/10

0:00 -- Intro.1:38 -- Start of interview.2:06 -- Nora's "origin story". 4:33 -- How she got started on her board journey. 6:25 -- The distinctions between serving on advisory boards and private venture-backed company boards.11:27 -- On serving on non-profit company boards. Nora has served on the boards of NACD, YWCA of Silicon Valley and the Anita Borg Institute.13:50 -- On serving on private equity (PE) backed company boards. *Prof Ron Gilson's article on Boards 3.0.16:34 -- On serving on public

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00:51:01

Louis Lehot: "It All Happens Outside of the Boardroom."

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/10/04

0:00 -- Intro.1:28 -- Start of interview.2:04 -- Louis's "origin story". 4:14 -- His current role at Foley & Lardner.5:48 -- On the question of "compromised independent directors." Reference to the Delaware case Goldstein v. Denner.10:25 -- The higher scrutiny over independent directors in this downturn (particularly on M&A, downrounds and recaps).14:22 -- How venture terms have changed in this environment. From "founder-friendly" to "investor-friendly." Supervoting shares, liquidation preferences

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00:52:26

Claudia Fan Munce: "The Board's Role is to Challenge...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/09/26

0:00 -- Intro.1:30 -- Start of interview.2:27-- Claudia's "origin story". She was born in Taiwan and grew up in Brazil. She came to the US after college. She studied CS and later went to work for IBM, where she had a 30 year career including founding the firm's Venture Capital Group. Post IBM, she joined NEA as a venture advisor, and has served on several corporate boards.8:31 -- On the evolution of corporate venture capital (CVC) at IBM, and the industry generally. In 2012, she was the first CVC

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01:17:18

Beatriz Infante: "There Is A Very Clear Bright-Line...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/09/19

0:00 -- Intro.1:26 -- Start of interview.2:01 -- Beatriz' "origin story". She was born in Cuba, grew up in NY and Miami. She was part of a NSF pilot program in Miami to "raise the next generation of scientists," starting in middle school. She learned to program computers in high school, and from there she got into Princeton where she studied computer science. She then went on to Caltech to continue her CS graduate studies. Her first job after grad school was with HP. She later founded a startup

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01:00:00

Kris Pederson and Jamie Smith: Takeaways from the...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/09/12

0:00 -- Intro.1:40 -- Start of interview.2:20 -- Kris' "origin story". 5:20 -- Jamie's "origin story". 7:30 -- About the EY Americas Center for Board Matters. It has three mandates: To conduct primary research in corporate governance (Jamie is the research lead). They have a proprietary proxy database and benchmarking database. Insights for directors.To support boards of directors. For example with board committee work, new board formation (IPO, divestitures, spin-offs, etc.)To organize and

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00:50:33

Adam Sterling: The Independent Director Initiative.

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/08/23

0:00 -- Intro.1:23 -- Start of interview.3:32 -- Adam's "origin story". He grew up in southern California where he attended UCSD and graduated from UCLA. In college he became an activist focusing on the conflict in Darfur, Sudan, and developed a "targeted divestment" model. After college he became a social entrepreneur based in Washington, DC.4:06 -- His decision to pursue a JD/MBA from UC Berkeley. While in grad school "he fell in love with the startup tech scene" and during business school he

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01:13:15

Santiago Siri: Crypto Governance, DAOs, Digital...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/08/15

0:00 -- Intro.1:30 -- Start of interview.3:32 -- Santi's "origin story". He was born and grew up in Buenos Aires, Argentina. "The year 1983 was a symbolic year in Argentina because it's the year that democracy came back to the country." "My generation was tainted by two events: the hyperinflation of 1989 and the collapse of 2001 (peso devaluation and bank deposit freezes)."5:11 -- Argentina's strange political case. 7:24 -- Santi's professional background going from gaming, to founding "Partido de

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01:08:45

Sandra Guerra: "The G in ESG is the Driver of...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2022/08/08

0:00 -- Intro.1:47 -- Start of interview.2:39 -- Sandra's "origin story". She was born and grew up in Sao Paulo, Brazil. After graduating from UNIP with a degree in communications she worked as a journalist for 10 years. She later transitioned to executive roles. In 1995, she was invited by Bengt Hallqvist to join a group to discuss issues impacting boards in Brazil. "She had nothing to do with boards at the time." "[B]ut she fell in love with the topic." That led to the creation of the Brazilian

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