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Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein

In-depth interview podcast with leading corporate governance experts, including world-class founders, scholars, board members, executives, investors and more. The content is structured as a long-form conversation to explore not only the latest corporate governance trends, but also to get some personal insights from some of the best and brightest minds behind America"s boardrooms.

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00:57:48

Karen Page: Venture Boards, Founder Governance, and...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/11/03

(0:00) Intro(1:25) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:12) Start of interview(3:01) Karen's origin story(3:44) Early Career and Transition to Technology(5:40) The Dot-Com Era and her time at Brobeck and later at Orrick.(8:50) Her transition to Prosper Marketplace (Chris Larsen's company) (9:40) Her time at Box, Inc. and Apple *Reference to E179 with Jack Lazar(13:14) Her journey to Venture Capital.(14:16) Joining B Capital (in 2019) and the firm's investment

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00:54:32

Joele Frank and Anne Chapman: Strategic...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/10/27

(0:00) Intro to this episode(1:34) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:21) Start of interview(3:19) Joele Frank's origin story(5:02) Anne Chapman's origin story(8:41) The history and focus of the firm Joelle Frank (now has ~250 people, with offices in NYC and SF).(12:46) Shareholder activism in today's market(15:52) The Exxon Mobil activism case [see E28 with Aiesha Mastagni from CalSTRS, starting at 23:27](18:17) Say-on-Pay and Executive Compensation Dynamics

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00:56:47

Stephen Bainbridge (UCLA): The State of Corporate Law...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/10/13

(0:00) Intro(1:24) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:11) Start of interview. *Reference to E91 (April 2023) for Steven's personal/professional background. (2:34) The current era of corporate law.(3:39) Transition to Substack Publishing(6:40) The DExit Phenomenon Explained(11:35) Understanding Delaware's SB21 and Its Implications. His article, Course Correction for Controller Shareholder Transactions.(19:53) The impact of SB21 on shareholder inspection rights

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00:56:23

Brad Feld: Startup Boards and Lessons from Four...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/10/01

(0:00) Intro(1:36) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:23) Start of interview(3:11) Brad's origin story(4:54) Venture Capital Beginnings(5:39) The Rise of the Internet(8:10) His role in Softbank Technology Ventures and later Mobius Venture Capital. Reference to Heidi Roizen E6, E108 and E116(12:26) Transition to Techstars and Foundry(13:36) Origin and focus of his book Startup Boards. Reference to his blog post: Feld Thoughts. "Boards (and board members) for

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00:53:07

State of the Markets and AI with Steven Wolfe Pereira

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/09/16

(0:00) Intro(1:30) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:16) Start of interview. *Reference to E181 (July 2025) for Steven's personal/professional background.(3:14) IPOs and Market Trends. Including Klarna and Gemini.(5:29) The Stay Private vs. Go Public Dilemma. Valuations and market health (examples of Airbnb and Figma)(12:00) The Oracle post-earnings 36% price increase. *Reference to article by Tom Chavez: In Defense of Bubbles.(14:14) AI, Data Centers, and

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00:54:27

Teresa Briggs: Audit Committees, AI, and the Evolving...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/09/02

(0:00) Intro(1:26) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:13) Start of interview(2:53) Teresa's origin story(4:30) Her career path at Deloitte (37-year career)(7:40) Transition to Board Service(8:37) Joining the board of ServiceNow(10:57) Joining the board of Warby Parker and understanding Public Benefit Corporations (PBCs)(14:48) Joining the boards of Snowflake and Docusign(15:38) Insights on Audit Committees (*reference to E179 with Jack Lazar)(17:10) Evolving

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00:47:15

Jonathan Foster: On Boards and the Playbook for...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/08/25

(0:00) Intro(1:27) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:13) Start of interview(2:51) Jonathan's origin story(4:23) His Journey into Governance, initially via accounting with PwC and later with Lazard.(6:17) Types of Governance Structures(7:51) About his firm Current Capital Partners (M&A advisory, corporate management services, and PE investing).(8:31) The Inspiration Behind his book On Boards: The Modern Playbook for Corporate Governance.(10:44) Interviews that

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00:54:50

Larry Cunningham: From John Weinberg’s 1948 Thesis,...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/08/18

(0:00) Intro(1:31) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:18) Start of interview. *Reference to E36 (June 2021) for personal/professional background, and E90 (March 2023)(3:13) Celebrating 25 Years of the Weinberg Center(3:47) Uncovering John Weinberg's 1948 Thesis. Details for the Symposium at the Weinberg Center on Oct 9, 2025.(6:12) The role of boards and directors from a historical perspective. *Reference to Gilson and Gordon's article on Boards 3.0.(8:17) The

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00:58:46

Tina Rosenfeld: Independent Directors, Board...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/08/05

(0:00) Intro(1:26) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:13) Start of interview *mention of my participation in the Board Summit in Chile (Nov 2025)(3:40) Tina's origin story(6:19) From Germany to Latin America with Beiersdorf(10:14) Her time with D&S and Walmart Chile (11:38) Her start with board memberships(14:23) The Role of Independent Directors in Family-Owned Businesses(19:44) Navigating Boardroom Challenges(22:54) The Role of Pension Funds in Chile Nominating

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01:11:05

Steven Wolfe Pereira: How Can You Govern Something...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/07/24

(0:00) Intro(1:28) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:15) Start of interview(3:17) Steven's origin story(7:09) The AI Market Explosion(10:07) Introducing Alpha: the company he leads. (16:01) On Events and Board Forums: "There is going to be a premium on IRL really moving forward because the bar is going to be so high" (17:50) The Necessity of Tech-Savvy Directors(19:58) Steven's State of the Art of AI for directors. "The AI wave is driven by 4 forces: 1) Compute

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00:52:29

Erik Gerding (Freshfields): Governance, Regulation,...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/07/14

(0:00) Intro(1:14) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:00) Start of interview(2:36) Erik's origin story(4:14) Discussing Foreign Private Issuers (FPIs): His article "SEC Revisits Foreign Private Issuer Eligibility" (June 2025)(16:45) The Rise of AI and Its Implications. Discussion on "AI Washing"(19:30) Distinguishing statutory mandates between the SEC, FTC, and DOJ on regulatory oversight of AI(20:40) The evolving crypto regulatory landscape "It's a pretty big

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01:02:24

Jack Lazar: A Silicon Valley Journey from Finance to...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/07/07

(0:00) Intro(1:30) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:16) Start of interview(3:09) Jack's origin story(4:11) The Accounting Foundation. His time at PriceWaterhouse (1987-1992)(5:45) His Startup/Executive Journey. Electronics for Imaging => Apptitude => NetRatings => Atheros => Qualcomm(12:15) Transitioning to Board Service. His start with Silicon Labs (2013)(12:26) His time as CFO at GoPro (2014-2016)(13:55) His focus on boards since 2016 (~10 public boards, ~15

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01:12:34

Walker Newell & Lenin Lopez (Woodruff & Sawyer):...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/06/30

(0:00) Intro to this episode(1:43) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:30) Start of interview(3:09) Walker Newell's origin story(6:38) Lenin Lopez' origin story(9:21) Intro to Woodruff Sawyer, and their focus on corporate law and securities litigation.(14:00) The Importance of Corporate Governance(14:38) On the Gallagher merger (WS was acquired for $1.2B)(15:10) Advising boards on D&O insurance (corporate and litigation). *Reference to E42 with Priya Cherian

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00:04:42

Celebrating 5 Years of the Boardroom Governance...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/06/22

This episode marks the fifth anniversary of the Boardroom Governance Podcast and Newsletter.In this solo edition, I reflect on:The origin of the podcast and newsletter, both launched during the pandemicKey lessons from over 175 episodes with leading voices in corporate governanceThe Boardroom Governance SummitMy role leading the Center for Business Law at UC Law SFThe Startup Litigation DigestThe VC-Backed Board Academy (VCBA)What’s next for the Boardroom Governance communityMentioned in this

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01:05:17

Karen Hao: Author of Empire of AI on Why "Scale at...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/06/12

(0:00) Intro (1:49) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:36) Introduction by Professor Anat Admati, Stanford Graduate School of Business. Read the event coverage from Stanford's CASI.(4:14) Start of Interview(4:45) What inspired Karen to write this book and how she got started with journalism.(8:00) OpenAI's Nonprofit Origin Story(8:45) Sam Altman and Elon Musk's Collaboration(10:39) The Shift to For-Profit(12:12) On the original split between Musk and Altman over

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00:50:10

Michal Lev-Ram: On the Intersecting Worlds of Tech,...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/06/04

(0:00) Intro(1:09) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(1:56) Start of interview(2:39) Michal's origin story(5:05) Her start in journalism in Silicon Valley with Business 2.0. magazine and later at Fortune Magazine.(7:45) Her project Operation Firewall (audible original podcast involving cybersecurity)(11:40) The current state of tech, particularly AI, in Silicon Valley. "I tend to be cautiously optimistic"(14:59) On Mira Murati's Thinking Machine Labs founder

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01:00:48

Alex Edmans: How Board Members Can Challenge Bias and...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/05/21

(0:00) Intro(1:37) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:24) Start of interview(3:10) Alex's origin story(5:56) His advisory boards and other board positions. On the importance of the academic practitioner nexus.(7:02) About his book May Contain Lies (2024)(10:07) About confirmation bias, relevant to corporate directors.(11:48) About black and white thinking (binary thinking).(14:44) Dissent in the boardroom. How in the UK directors don't have "skin the game" (no

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00:50:39

Rick Horvath (Dechert): What Corporate Directors Need...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/05/12

(0:00) Intro(1:14) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:01) Start of interview(4:38) His professional background starting with Skadden in Delaware.(5:08) About his corporate governance practice at Dechert LLP(8:10) How Delaware Came to Dominate U.S. Incorporations(13:14) What prompted the pushback against Delaware(15:12) The Tornetta v Musk decision (Elon Musk CEO compensation rescission)(18:40) The Rationale Behind the Governor and Legislature’s Support for SB21

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00:52:45

Roy Shapira: Europe’s Corporate Sustainability...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/04/28

(0:00) Intro(1:30) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:17) Start of interview(3:01) Roy's origin story. (6:35) About the EU Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive ("CS3D"). His paper co-authored with Luca Enriques and Matteo Gatti: How the EU Sustainability Due Diligence Directive Could Reshape Corporate America (2025)(9:28) The Political Climate of ESG, and divide between US and EU. *On March 15, 2025, Tennessee senator Bill Hagerty filed "Protect USA

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00:43:48

Robin Feldman: On the Evolution and Regulation of AI

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2025/04/21

(0:00) Intro(1:26) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:13) Start of interview(2:45) Robin's origin story(3:55) About the AI Law and Innovation Institute.(5:02) On AI governance: "AI is critical for boards, both from a risk management perspective and from a regulatory management perspective." Boards should: 1) Get regular updates on safety and regulatory issues, 2) document the attention that they're paying to it to have a record of meaningful oversight, and 3)

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