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Trade Tales

Business of Home, Kaitlin Petersen

Business of Home"s editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen talks to interior designers about nurturing creativity, finding a firm’s financial footing, setting goals and discovering their own version of success as a result.

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00:49:48

Why Lauren Caron decided to ‘Marie Kondo’ her clients

Trade Tales ·

2022/07/20

Lauren Caron’s visual merchandising career kicked off with a long-term plan for climbing the corporate ladder at elite department store Bergdorf’s. Thanks to a lot of hard work, however, her dream came a little sooner than she expected—and turned out to be a little bit of a nightmare as well. Burnt out and in desperate need of a creative career that would give her control over the boundaries between life and work, she soon left her job to start a design business of her own. In this episode, she

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00:48:13

Gala Magriñá filters her design business through a...

Trade Tales ·

2022/07/06

Gala Magriñá’s early career years taught her to think about design as it applied to a wide variety of spaces. As a visual merchandiser by day and a set designer by night, she created spaces for store windows, showrooms and retail shops as well as music videos and film sets. Her experience soon spawned the creation of a do-it-all agency—one that Magrina has since whittled down into a holistic interior design firm, geared toward getting to the bottom of how spaces can positively impact the health and

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00:45:46

Kevin Isbell on finding success with a small firm

Trade Tales ·

2022/06/22

For years, Kevin Isbell was the right-hand man for top interior designers from coast to coast. Eventually, it came time to take what he’d learned and embark on a new journey at the helm of his own firm—a sink-or-swim moment that revealed just how daunting the route to design leader can be. In this episode, he shares how he found his footing as design principal and enlisted a support system to help him stay afloat.LINKSKevin IsbellKaitlin PetersenBusiness of HomeThis episode was sponsored by Moore &

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00:44:14

Alvin Wayne on making social media the bedrock of his...

Trade Tales ·

2022/06/08

Alvin Wayne spent years juggling a double career in luxury retail and interior design. But when the pandemic happened, he was hit with a realization: it was finally time to wholeheartedly pursue his passion for interiors. Now, he’s committed to crafting a firm that serves him best—between his penchant for shopping retail, his streamlined client vetting process and his growing social media presence, he’s using his exacting attitude to bring his business to new heights.LINKSAlvin WayneKaitlin

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00:42:07

Why Tina Ramchandani wants a “soul connection” with...

Trade Tales ·

2022/05/25

When searching for a potential career, Tina Ramchandani set off in search of an “aha” moment—and she finally found it in the stunning interiors of an opulent hotel. The realization sent her on a path through design school, positions at both commercial and residential firms, and finally at the helm of her own firm, where she’s helping clients channel their own instincts to create emotionally-connected interiors.LINKSTina RamchandaniKaitlin PetersenBusiness of HomeThis episode was sponsored by The

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00:48:07

Meagan Camp quit Instagram. This is what she learned

Trade Tales ·

2022/05/11

Interior design was basically the family business for Meagan Camp, whose mother, grandparents and even great-grandparents all worked as design professionals. Though she worked as a stylist for nearly a decade, Camp couldn’t escape the pull of creating enduring spaces and eventually started a firm of her own. From there, she committed to doing things her own way—from quitting social media to redefining the luxury experience for her clients.LINKSMeagan CampKaitlin PetersenBusiness of HomeThis episode

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00:43:20

How DuVäl Reynolds attracts team members who share...

Trade Tales ·

2022/04/27

When DuVäl Reynolds realized interior design was the career path for him, he went all-in—working a full time day job, attending design school at night and starting a fledgling firm along the way. The real work began when he started developing the finer points of his firm—including the clients he worked best with, an ideal support staff, and the side projects that put his personal aesthetic to the test.LINKSDuVäl ReynoldsKaitlin PetersenBusiness of HomeThis episode was sponsored by SideDoor.

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00:44:34

Toledo Geller on how to survive a crisis (or two)

Trade Tales ·

2022/04/13

Virginia Toledo always knew she was fated for a career in interiors. Jessica Geller, meanwhile, took a more winding road into the industry. When the two crossed paths, it was the start of a winning partnership—and despite taking significant hits during the recession and the pandemic, their design business bounced back stronger each time. Now, the duo is navigating a new period of significant growth, and realizing the importance of owning the role of business owner.LINKSToledo GellerKaitlin

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00:43:05

How Linda Hayslett started designing on her own terms

Trade Tales ·

2022/03/30

After a decade in the fashion industry left her feeling unfulfilled, Linda Hayslett was looking for a new way to channel her creativity. When she finally switched gears to pursue interior design, she made it her mission to take control of her career. In this episode, she shares why overseeing projects from construction to completion has been a top priority, and how she’s getting intentional about her firm’s growth to ensure that the business can withstand any economic turbulence.LINKSLinda

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00:46:33

Erin Gates on finding your voice

Trade Tales ·

2022/03/16

Erin Gates has a special talent for identifying untapped potential: She started her own firm geared toward young professionals in Boston in 2007, finding great success among an underserved clientele; she was also an early design blogger, part of a shift that would transform the design industry (and send her own career skyrocketing). In this episode, the Wellesley, Massachusetts–based designer explains how she stayed authentic amid pressure to bend, how she finds team members that support her vision,

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00:50:27

Nicole White on having the grace to grow

Trade Tales ·

2022/03/02

When Nicole White left her first career in journalism to go all-in on design, she ran straight into a scenario even more frightening than hurricane-chasing and crime reporting—starting a small business at the beginning of the recession. She took whatever odd jobs she could get as she recovered financially from the risk, before taking the leap a second time. Nearly a decade later, she’s sharing a few lessons from the other side, including the balance between brand-building and daily operations, how a

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00:38:09

Refine and repeat: Park & Oak on navigating...

Trade Tales ·

2022/02/16

Following first careers in different industries, Christina Samatas and Renee DiSanto joined forces to found their firm, Park & Oak, with a flexibility that could work with their schedules as busy parents. After posting a few early project photos on then-budding social media site Instagram, the client inquiries started flooding in—and almost overnight, the Glen Ellyn, Illinois–based duo found themselves faced with the challenges of newfound success. Since then, they’ve used each experience to refine

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00:48:05

Nile Johnson on making space for creativity...

Trade Tales ·

2022/02/02

Philadelphia-based interior designer Nile Johnson scored a dream client, one so good that she recommended him to all her friends. One in particular reached out to Johnson for a project, and he took it despite knowing the chemistry wasn't quite right. The project got off to an awkward start and never improved—but after the dust settled, Johnson revamped his firm, drawing on lessons he'd learned. Today, he's rebuilt his process in a way that allows him to be creative while letting the client feel in

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00:40:44

How Emilie Munroe shows clients that she won’t let...

Trade Tales ·

2022/01/19

After rising through the ranks at an established design firm, Emilie Munroe felt the pull to start a firm of her own. But instead of rushing out the door with a new brand, the San Francisco–designer made space for her own aesthetic—and her firm—to develop over time. Along the way, she’s discovered that giving clients options makes for a more meaningful design process, and has developed a clear-eyed view on building a team that can support the firm’s growth.LINKSEmilie MunroeKaitlin PetersenBusiness

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00:43:24

Rasheeda Gray switched to design mid-career. You can too

Trade Tales ·

2022/01/05

Rasheeda Gray was successfully climbing the corporate ladder when she realized she needed to make a change to find her passion and purpose. She went back to school for interior design, founded her business, began connecting with her first clients—and even made her first hire a year before exiting her day job. On this episode of the podcast, she shares what it takes to execute a major career pivot, from setting up the business and leaning into the role of entrepreneur, to doing the "mindset work"

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00:37:50

Ramey Caulkins on bypassing supply chain hurdles

Trade Tales ·

2021/12/22

From building a team to navigating the industry’s supply chain challenges, Ramey Caulkins draws on lessons learned from her early career in sales at Ann Sacks. Today, the Denver–based designer is meeting the moment by building a supportive framework for her latest hires and tapping vendor relationships to find new solutions.This episode is sponsored by Gaggenau and Sidedoor. LINKSRamey CaulkinsKaitlin PetersenBusiness of Home

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00:40:13

Dan Rak on getting the money talk right

Trade Tales ·

2021/12/08

During his first career as a tax lawyer, Dan Rak didn’t have much bandwidth to dip his toes into interior design. Instead, he focused on the one space he had unlimited access to: —his own house. Soon enough, Rak was moonlighting as a house flipper and quickly realizing that it was time to go all-in on his design hobby. Now firmly established, he’s focused on taking his business to the next level by building his team thoughtfully and fine-tuning his process to provide clients with a top-notch design

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00:37:39

Michel Smith Boyd on why a flat fee lets him focus on...

Trade Tales ·

2021/11/24

Modeling, acting, nursing and beauty school—Michel Smith Boyd tried it all before an encounter with an interior designer sealed his fate and sent him back to school to begin the journey toward the rest of his career. While still a design undergrad, he landed his first big gig—a one-night affair designing an extravagant party for a marketing executive. Though the event launched the young designer into a world of affluent clients and fast fame, he’s now revisiting his business practices to retread the

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00:38:22

How a better contract made Katie Hodges a better...

Trade Tales ·

2021/11/10

Katie Hodges’s first big client felt like a dream come true—a gorgeous luxury home, flexible clients and a project that ultimately landed a glossy feature in a major magazine. The same structure, it turned out, was a nightmare with one of her next clients. Though the experience was bad enough to make the Los Angeles designer consider quitting, she instead took a long hard look at her contract and fee structure—a process that transformed the way she now runs her firm.This episode is sponsored by

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00:37:02

Design, real estate and contracting—Keisha...

Trade Tales ·

2021/10/27

During her first career in marketing, Keisha Gilchrist slogged through a series of bad jobs. Between unlivable wages and male-dominated workplaces, the experiences gave her the fuel she needed to take the dive into design—now, as a real estate broker, design principal and general contractor, she’s finally in the driver’s seat on all fronts. The Washington, D.C.–based designer shares her journey as a woman working in construction, the client exercise she uses to manage sticker shock, and why she’s

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