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Industry Relations

Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson

This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider"s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.

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58:40

Moehrl v. NAR: Rob Walks Greg Back from the Ledge

Industry Relations ·

2023/04/05

Could we be witnessing the biggest lawsuit in American real estate? Moehrl v. NAR has officially turned into a class-action lawsuit, which could have major repercussions on how commissions are earned and paid. It could also mean the country’s largest organization for REALTORS could be in some serious financial trouble should the plaintiffs win their case. This episode of Industry Relations dives into the history of this lawsuit and what potential outcomes could be. Let’s go! Listen to the podcast on

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54:27

A Fresh New Way of Beating a Dead Horse

Industry Relations ·

2023/03/29

What should it take to be a realtor? And, perhaps a better question, what does it currently take to be a realtor? Homebuyers are using realtors more than ever before, but Rob seems to think that doesn’t mean realtors are performing better; in fact, it’s quite the opposite. This episode of Industry Relations dives into the world of the National Association of Realtors, the standards by which realtors operate, and whether or not today’s realtor is actually living up to the NAR’s own mission of

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54:11

SVB Failure: Good or Bad For Real Estate?

Industry Relations ·

2023/03/22

How will the Silicon Valley Bank failure affect real estate? Was the government stepping in a good move? Rob and Greg take a dive into the Silicon Valley Bank failure, exploring what caused it to crumble and how its collapse could shake up real estate. Was it a perfect storm or a moral hazard? Will it be good or bad for real estate? Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and Greg:

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53:35

Movies, Music, and Anything But Real Estate

Industry Relations ·

2023/03/15

Rob and Greg are out this week. So here's one of Industry Relation most popular episodes: Is there anything Rob and Greg can’t banter about? Turns out, not really! In this special episode of Industry Relations, our two real estate gurus take a break from debating MLS, Zillow, and the housing market, and turn their attention to something far more important (or, at least more fun): the greatest movies of all time! And as one could presume, the debate gets quite heated. Listen to the Industry

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49:50

Scottsdale and Sister Wives

Industry Relations ·

2023/03/08

It’s the crisis no one is talking about…yet. Demographics and the dropping birth rate across the globe—just how could the changing family dynamic impact or be a predictor for the future of the housing market? From sister wives to banning online dating, Rob and Greg give us some interesting solutions to the birth rate crisis and explain why it’s something everybody should be paying attention to. BirthGap documentary link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6s8QlIGanA Listen to the Industry

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55:34

A Little Chat about ChatGPT and the Recent CoStar Move

Industry Relations ·

2023/03/01

Why is Andy Florance not acquiring Realtor.com? Could ChatGPT help us finally determine what the value of an MLS is? Just what is and isn’t copyrightable when it comes to real estate data? This episode of Industry Relations dives into recent CoStar moves, how AI is infiltrating real estate, and whether Rob and Greg are just making a big deal out of nothing. Toward the end of this episode, Rob and Greg dive into Sam DeBord’s recent article “The Value of MLS: ChatGPT, Commissions and the Other 4Cs,”

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54:24

The Big Why, the Key Issue, and the Consequences of...

Industry Relations ·

2023/02/22

Lawsuits are on the horizon – but how will it affect NAR and the real estate market? Why are these lawsuits even happening, and what’s the one issue that they revolve around? In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg make their predictions for what the consequences of these lawsuits will be and whether or not you should be worried. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher Connect with Rob and

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43:34

The Impact of NAR vs DOJ

Industry Relations ·

2023/02/15

NAR wins a major hurdle in the DOJ antitrust probe. But what does it mean for the rest of the real estate industry? How will this affect other lawsuits? In this episode of Industry Rob and Greg do what they do best and give their take on the impact of the NAR and DOJ antitrust probe. Why Rob believes that this is far from over and why Greg thinks there’s going to be a lot of industry mistakes made in the near future. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to

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37:52

CoStar Buying Realtor.com Rumors

Industry Relations ·

2023/02/08

There's been a lot of talk lately about CoStar buying Realtor.com. Will it happen or is it just a rumor? What advantages would CoStar have if they do acquire Realtor.com? With a history of bold predictions and Nostrodamus-like moments, Rob and Greg share their thoughts on what’s most likely to happen. Find out why Rob believes multi-brands aren’t a good thing and Greg shares how this could help with CoStar’s SEO. Lots of thought experiments in this episode as they unravel the rumors behind CoStar’s

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50:15

Shifting Priorities of MLS Organizations

Industry Relations ·

2023/02/01

What are some of the shifting priorities at MLS organizations? Have you ever wondered what challenges MLS orgs are facing? In this episode on Industry Relations Greg chats with special guest, Katie Smithson CRO at CRMLS to to break down the transforming priorities within the field. Tune in for all the current industry intel and how MLS organizations are shifting priorities. Nestfully PR mentioned in the show. CRMLS Press Release Styldod Reach out to Katie either by email katie@crmls.org,

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53:10

Making Better Agents and Listings

Industry Relations ·

2023/01/25

Ever wondered how to get the most out of your listings and become a better agent? Making yourself a better agent and improve your listings is easier than you think. In this episode, Rob & Greg touch on the different technologies and marketing strategies that agents can use to get an edge in sales. Tune in for why Rob believes great photography is the best way and why Greg thinks it’s just putting lipstick on a pig and pricing is the best strategy. UPDATE 1-26-2023 A representative of Homes.com has

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56:45

How New Construction is Impacting the Housing Market

Industry Relations ·

2023/01/18

How does new construction and existing inventory affect the housing market? Rob and Greg unpack the complexities of new construction's influence on the housing market, with help from an actual expert Kevin Oakley with Do You Convert. In this episode, gain some unique insight into how new developments shape today’s property sector. Join us, as we take a deep dive into how new construction impacts the housing market. Link up with Kevin. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast

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45:13

Real Estate Economics in 2023

Industry Relations ·

2023/01/11

What’s the real estate market going to look like in 2023? 2022 was a lackluster year and with layoffs and new leadership in the industry what does it all mean? Rob and Greg take on these questions and utilize their amateur economic skills to the fullest in this episode. Another steak bet is on the line. So who’s going to be the one ending up buying a whole cow in this take on 2023 industry economics? Connect with Sharran Check out Mike Simonsen’s YouTube mentioned in the show Listen to the

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23:45

2022 Highlights from Industry Relations

Industry Relations ·

2023/01/04

What were the best moments and highlights in 2022 from Industry Relations? In this special episode we take a look back at some of the best times in the Industry Relations podcast. From the winners and losers between Zillow, Opendoor and the FTC; to Wall Street's take on real estate. This episode is packed with fun quotes; mentions of asteroids and red waves in the best way only Rob and Greg can say. Check out this 2022 highlights from Industry Relations. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast

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01:06:05

Wrapping Up and Reviewing 2022

Industry Relations ·

2022/12/28

What were some major events in the real estate industry in 2022? Want to know which event has Rob and Greg betting a steak dinner? Or why Rob believes MLS needs to approach a prepper mindset? In this episode Rob and Greg follow-up on last week’s episode and go further into the weeds on what happened in 2022. Join us as we wrap up and do a full review of 2022. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

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01:09:35

Real Estate 2022 Highlights and 2023 Predictions

Industry Relations ·

2022/12/21

What was the most important thing and had the biggest impact in the world of real estate in 2022? Was it the Northwest MLS’s rules and forms update or the lackluster year for home sales? Rob and Greg are joined by two very special guests, Greg Fischer and Joe Rand. They share their top highlights of the year and for the first time on Industry Relations; stare into the crystal ball and make some bold 2023 real estate predictions. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms!

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44:02

The Real Estate Market's Crucible in 2023

Industry Relations ·

2022/12/14

Realtors assemble! As Greg returns from the National Association of Realtors Expo in Orlando, he and Rob discuss trends going into the new year. From unsettling problems such as the hike in first-time homebuyer age and income, to the currently topsy-turvy world of vendors and MLSes, buckle up for what Rob is predicting will be “a crucible” for real estate in the year ahead. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on

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43:27

Commingling and Co-star: What You Need To Know

Industry Relations ·

2022/12/07

Is Zillow turning into the Craigslist of real estate? Just how accurate is the data on MLS websites, and should consumers be given a guarantee of accuracy? From predicting a possible depression to come in 2023 to debating the irrationality of lightsabers, this episode of Industry Relations covers the need-to-know issues in today’s real estate industry. Let’s go! Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on Stitcher

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55:47

Movies, Music, and Anything But Real Estate

Industry Relations ·

2022/11/30

Is there anything Rob and Greg can’t banter about? Turns out, not really! In this special episode of Industry Relations, our two real estate gurus take a break from debating MLS, Zillow, and the housing market, and turn their attention to something far more important (or, at least more fun): the greatest movies of all time! And as one could presume, the debate gets quite heated. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the

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44:02

The Real Estate Market's Crucible in 2023

Industry Relations ·

2022/11/23

Realtors assemble! As Greg returns from the National Association of Realtors Expo in Orlando, he and Rob discuss trends going into the new year. From unsettling problems such as the hike in first-time homebuyer age and income, to the currently topsy-turvy world of vendors and MLSes, buckle up for what Rob is predicting will be “a crucible” for real estate in the year ahead. Listen to the Industry Relations Podcast across all podcast platforms! Listen to the podcast on Apple Listen to the podcast on

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