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Refin" It Up

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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01:52:45

Tales of Casanova

Refin" It Up ·

2023/05/10

Kenny Casanova joins Brian and Jimmy this week on the show. As an author of so many great books, he talks about what goes into writing and preparing some of the great books you see on the shelves today. However, Kenny also talks about the joy he has when he can work with some of the people that he grew up watching and following. All of this and some very funny stories he has been a part of in and outside the ring. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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01:44:50

Stronger Then The Business

Refin" It Up ·

2023/04/26

This week we welcome Ken Patera to the show, and is full of great stories you will only hear on this episode. From his power lifting days to running up and down the road with some of the greats in wrestling history; Ken has seen and lived it all. We also have a special run in from his WWE days that caught Ken by surprise. Find out who joined us and so much more on this weeks episode. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG

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01:44:12

Wrestling On The Edge

Refin" It Up ·

2023/04/19

The “Rated R Superstar” Edge has been a fixture in the wrestling business for over two decades; this week Jimmy and Brian dive deep into the career of Edge, including some great stories from the past. As a 31 time champion Edge built his career at an early age with Christian while at school, and then made their dreams a reality when they signed with WWE. Edge’s career may seem like a fiction novel to some but to Edge it is real and he will continue to make the best out of it as long as he has left

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01:25:38

Fanging N Banging

Refin" It Up ·

2023/04/12

One of the best wrestling minds of all time joins us this week on Refin It Up. Gangrel joins Brian and Jimmy to talk about the foundation of what went in to the character of Gangrel. We also go into depth on the formation of “The Brood,” even in its short run of 8 months got over huge with the WWE audience and is still talked about to this day. Gangrel is the current head trainer at Coastal Championship Wresting in Florida and he speaks on the school and a few of the wrestlers that he thinks

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01:42:26

Being Immortal

Refin" It Up ·

2023/04/05

Without Hulk Hogan the wrestling business would not be where it is today. This week Brian and Jimmy talk about some of the great moments he had in WWE, WCW, and TNA. Before Scott Hall and Kevin Nash jumped from WWE to WCW Hulk Hogan did it in 1994 and helped to put WCW on the map; making people turn the channel to see what was happening on WCW television. Towards the back end of his career Hulk had one last run in WWE in 2002, helping put over guys like The Rock and Brock Lesnar. However, he

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01:17:45

The Angle On Wrestling

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2023/03/29

It’s True, It’s Damn True!!! Your Olympic Hero, Kurt Angle is the guest on this weeks episode. However, before Kurt comes on the show with us, seeing that it is Wrestle Mania week Brian and Jimmy remember some of their favorite memories of Wrestle Mania. Secondly, Kurt talks about his record breaking first year in the business. We attempted to figure out who had a similar first year; listen to find out who we think. Not only did Kurt have a phenomenal career in WWE but when he went to TNA in 2006

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01:43:14

The Scarlette Letter

Refin" It Up ·

2023/03/22

Scarlette Donovan is one of the up and coming referees in wrestling; and she joins us this week on the show. Scarlette has been working all over the world; from Japan to Mexico and up to Canada, she has reffed all over. She also has the ability to say that she was the first female referee to work a New Japan Pro Wrestling match. Scarlette is the senior referee for the promotion she trained at, Santino Brothers and has also made a name for herself with Game Changer Wresting (GCW). The desire and

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02:16:04

Legendary Stripes

Refin" It Up ·

2023/03/15

For the first time in 20 years Brian Hebner, Jimmy Korderas, and Mike Chioda are in the same place once again. This week we welcome Mike Chioda to the show as we share great memories from the road and give some advice to some of the current crop of talent. Three of the greats of all time talk shop makes this weeks episode a must listen. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter:

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01:39:53

The Giant and Boss

Refin" It Up ·

2023/03/08

The 8th wonder of the world Andre The Giant is the most polarizing figure in all of professional wrestling, and this week we talk about some great times and moments in his career. Andre was the attraction that wrestling desperately needed in the 1980s when the business needed to gain some momentum. Brian and Jimmy also remember some funny stories involving meeting Andre, the Ultimate Warrior, and drinking with Andre. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian

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01:39:24

Reffing To A Handler

Refin" It Up ·

2023/03/01

This week we remember the life and career of a close friend to everyone that met him; we talk everything Tim White. The early days saw him being Andre The Giant’s go to guy. Later on we saw him in the ring as one of the most recognizable referees in WWE history. After getting injured in a Hell In A Cell Match in 2002 Tim began a backstage roll with the company then kept him in the business that he loved so much. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner

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01:53:42

"The Adventures Of Kendrick"

Refin" It Up ·

2023/02/22

Brian Kendrick has wrestled all over the world and this week he explains what wrestling means to him. As an in-ring talent, producer, or promoter Brian Kendrick has done a lot in the business. As the character Spanky, he did some memorable things in the business but came into his own when he started tagging with Paul London and showed the world what he could do. All of this and some great stories with both Jimmy and Brian. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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01:13:40

"Refin Rewind" Gail Kim

Refin" It Up ·

2023/02/15

This week we bring you “Refin Rewind” with Former IMPACT and WWE Women’s Champion Gail Kim. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ajmckaycreative.com Underdog Fantasy Promo Code: REFIN Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod An Unscripted

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01:33:43

"The Not So Dirty One"

Refin" It Up ·

2023/02/08

ODB broke barriers for women in professional wrestling and this week she talks about her introduction to wrestling when she auditioned for Tough Enough in 2000. After being eliminated from the competition she made her way to OVW and began to flourish. When ODB joined TNA the women’s division was one of the best in the business at the time, but that has never gotten enough credit. Finally, she touched the ups and downs of running her own business since 2017. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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01:42:57

Regally Devilish

Refin" It Up ·

2023/02/01

Refin It Up gets Regal this week as Brian, Jimmy, and RJ talk about the great career of William Regal. From the age of 15 Regal was fighting for his life in the streets of Blackpool, England. Come 1993 William Regal made his first big run in WCW and brought legitimacy to the TV Title from the start. Within a few years he was wrestling guys like Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat, Arn Anderson, and Larry Zbyszko. He was beginning to make a name for himself all over the world and across many promotions. Then

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01:41:59

The Show That's Larger Then Life

Refin" It Up ·

2023/01/25

We have our biggest show this week as we talk about “Big Show” Paul Wight. Throughout his career in WCW it felt like some starting and stopping until he made the jump to the WWE in 1999 at St. Valentines Day Massacre. During the event Big Show made one of the most iconic debuts in history coming up from under the ring and tossing Steve Austin through the cage during his match against Mr. McMahon. During his WWE career Big Show got some advice from some of the top people in the company; but he also

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01:38:31

The Broken Hardy! Delete!

Refin" It Up ·

2023/01/18

We are woken this week to another WONDERFUL show as Brian, Jimmy, and RJ talk everything Matt Hardy. To do that they welcomed in Jon Alba to administer some great knowledge about Matt Hardy. From starting on a trampoline in his backyard to stealing the show at Wrestle Mania Matt Hardy has an extensive resume and the hardware to go along with it. Listen this week as we prove to you that Matt Hardy is one of the best minds in all of pro wrestling. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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01:47:17

I Am Hardcore Country!!!

Refin" It Up ·

2023/01/11

Refin It Up is going “Hardcore Country” this week as we welcome the future Hall of Fame Mickie James to the show. This Friday she faces the current IMPACT Knockouts Champion Jordynne Grace in a title vs career match at Hard To Kill. Mickie has had a long and storied road that has led her to this point in her career, we touch on those moments and so much more this week. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy

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02:29:11

"It's What Everyone Wants"

Refin" It Up ·

2023/01/04

What does everyone want? Al Snow!!!! That is what you will be getting this week as we welcome one of the best minds in all of professional wrestling to talk shop with Brian, RJ, and our NEW co-host; Jimmy Korderas. If you look at the current landscape of wrestling Al has had a hand in it. Whether it is training the next crop of talent at the OVW training facility or being the lead coach on Tough Enough Al knows talent when he sees it. Not only do we talk about all the things about his career but Al

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01:28:51

"Wolves to Leader of the Pack"

Refin" It Up ·

2022/12/28

From Ring of Honor to NOAH and now in IMPACT Eddie Edwards's list of accomplishments are vast and this week we have the honor of welcoming him on the show. Firstly however we talk about his twenty-year career as well as Brians's involvement with Eddie in the business. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ajmckaycreative.com Underdog Fantasy Promo Code (REFIN)

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00:59:00

Refin Review: Bully Ray

Refin" It Up ·

2022/12/21

This week Brian and RJ are bringing you “Refin Rewind” as they present to you the show we did back in July with Bully Ray. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ajmckaycreative.com

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