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Refin" It Up

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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01:14:57

Episode 210: Showcase of the Immortals

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2026/04/15

This week we will talk about...How can AEW or any other promotion capitalize off WWE creative woes? ODB going into TNA HOF 2026 at Bound for Glory EC3 returns to TNA at Rebellion We will revisit the Wrestle mania go home RAW from Monday NightWrestle mania predictions And our world famous Refin Review All this and more!!!!Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter @refinitup and

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01:16:39

Episode 209: Storytime with Refin It Up

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2026/04/08

This week we will talk about...The return of Chris Jericho to AEWPat McAfee revealed as person on the phone with Randy Orton How to tell proper stories that mean something in pro wrestling.Wrestle Mania ticket sales The release of the Wrestle Mania Card We will revisit RAW from Monday NightCM Punk dropping more pipebombsAnd our world famous Refin Review All this and more!!!!Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter @refinitup and

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01:12:45

Episode 208: Right Place, Right Time

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2026/04/01

This week we will talk about...What Becky Lynch thinks about a Sasha Banks WWE return TNAs consistent ratings on AMC ROH/MLP "Global Wars Canada" Your new United States Champion, Sami Zayn. We will revisit RAW from Monday Night Stephanie McMahon/ Cody Rhodes segment Oba/Brock segment New Tag Team ChampionsRoman/PunkSeth Rollins/Gunther TNA Rebellion on April 11Vince Russo working with Tony Khan? And our world famous Refin Review Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter @refinitup and

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01:13:44

Chaos In Numbers

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2026/03/25

This week we will talk about...The chaos that occured on Smackdown last week. Some discrepancies that have come out in regards to the AEW numbers by Dave Meltzer We will revisit RAW from Monday Night And our world famous Refin Review All this and more....Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter @_refinitup and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠YouTube https://youtube.com/@refinitup?si=R7jdrMry4rhZPXo2Twitch https://twitch.tv/refinitupBrian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy

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01:26:23

Episode 206: Goldylocks

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2026/03/18

This week we discuss the referee incident at OVW, Randy Orton hearing the voices again as he has turned on Cody on Smackdown, and we also recap RAW all in our first count. In addition to that we will have another great Refin Review; we are also thrilled to welcome former TNA backstage interviewer, valet, and rock superstar Goldylocks to the show.Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter @_refinitup and IG

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01:18:00

Episode 205: Wrestling with Athletes

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2026/03/11

We are back for another great episode of Refin It Up as we talk about Cody Rhodes big win over Drew McIntyre Brian “Road Dogg” James” departing WWEJordynne Grace’s injured ankle injury before smackdownRaw RecapRefin Review Professional Sports Athletes vs Pro Wrestlers Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠YouTube https://youtube.com/@refinitup?si=R7jdrMry4rhZPXo2Twitch https://twitch.tv/refinitupBrian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy

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01:29:52

Episode 204; Man in the Box

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2026/03/04

Coming off of the Elimination Chamber PLE we have a lot to talk about. After watching the PLE and RAW on Monday are you getting excited for Wrestle Mania? We are also going to talk about the promo that Steve Maclin cut last week on IMPACT on AMC; as well as the 1st hour of WrestleMania on BOTH Saturday and Sunday will be streaming LIVE on ESPN2 and ESPN. All this and our Refin Review this week.Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter and IG

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01:22:09

Chamber of Secrets

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2026/02/25

This week we talk about the Cody Rhodes and Sami Zayn segment from Smackdown and if and or when ether one of them will turn heel. In addition to that we talk about our thoughts about this past weeks RAW as well as what we expect to see this Saturday at Elimination Chamber in Chicago. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠YouTube https://youtube.com/@refinitup?si=R7jdrMry4rhZPXo2Twitch https://twitch.tv/refinitupBrian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG

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01:24:41

Episode 202: Connor Thornton

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2026/02/18

We welcome Connor Thornton to the show this week to talk about all things content creating. Connor talks about all the good and bad things that he has come across in the world on content creations. In addition to all of that Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel talk about the very busy week of pro wrestling including what is in store for Brock Lesnar and AJ Styles next week on RAW from Atlanta and what we could see from a Bad Bunny and Logan Paul match. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter and IG

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01:13:50

Episode 201: We Live Pal

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2026/02/11

We are LIVE pal!!!! You can now catch the show on YouTube and Twitch. However, we still bring the show to you right here in podcast form every week. This week we talk about the ratings for TNA on AMC from last week, if the Cody Rhodes and Drew McIntyre can go all the way to Wrestle Mania, one more match for Lita, and some comments from Michael PS Hayes on UnReal. In addition to that we will have our Refin Review and discuss some of our Mount Rushmore Heels and Workers. All this and much more

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01:54:00

Refin 200

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2026/02/04

We are celebrating out 200th episode of Refin It Up this week. We dedicate it to all of our listers as we asked you all for your questions and we try to answer them all. In addition to that we talk about the busy week in wrestling. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG:

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01:10:42

Ref Fellas 8

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2026/01/28

We dive into what we thought about Saturday Nights Main Event from last week and the possibilities that it presents for some of the wrestlers going forward into the Royal Rumble. We also revisit the second episode of TNA Impact on AMC; what we thought of it, good and bad. Season tow of UNREAL on Netflix has take the platform and world by storm and we talk about what we thought of the show. Lastly, we talk about what could have been AJ Styles last RAW as well as our takes for what we can expect

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01:07:34

Ref Fellas 7

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2026/01/21

The fellas are back in town this week. Daniel, Brian, and Jimmy are back t talk about the week that was in wrestling. We talk about the debut of TNA on AMC; the hits and some misses from last Thursdays debut. In addition to that we talk about the turn of Natalya to Nattie on Maxxine Durpi; or so we hope. With 2026 being the last year for AJ Styles, could the Royal Rumble match against Gunther be it for AJ? The boys discuss that in addition to our Refin Review. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter,

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01:13:18

Ref Fellas 6

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2026/01/14

The fellas are back and ready for Ref Fellas this week as Brian and Jimmy break down Drew McIntyre’s title victory over Cody Rhodes from Smackdown last Friday as well as the officially debut of Jordynne Grace on Smackdown. We additionally talk about the debut of TNA on AMC this Thursday night with the return of AJ Styles to TNA IMPACT. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas

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01:21:32

Ref Fellas V

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2026/01/07

We are back from our holiday break with Ref Fellas V. Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel starts 2026 hot when they discuss some of the top news in pro wrestling. From debuts to returns all the way to Drew McIntyre and Cody Rhodes three stages of hell match we talk about it all. Plus don’t forget everyone’s favorite segment “Refin Review” is hot. Lastly, we talk about the general comment William Regan made while we were off as well as the debut of TNA Wrestling on AMC on January 15. Refin It Up Social

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01:50:38

Refin Rewind: Sgt Slaughter

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2025/12/31

This week we are doing a Refin Rewind with our episode with Sgt. Slaughter from December of 2024 Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay We are extremely happy to announce our new partnership with PSL City

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01:19:20

Refin Rewind: Alisha Edwards

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2025/12/24

This week we are doing a Refin Rewind with our episode with Alisha Edwards from October of 2024 Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait and AJ McKay We are extremely happy to announce our new partnership with PSL City

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01:34:18

The Stripes

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2025/12/17

It is time for the Stripes Awards this week on Refin It Up. Find out what wrestlers and what moments are taking home a Stripes Award this year. Beforehand, Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel discuss everything that happened in John Cena’s last match at Saturday Nights Main Event as well as what the responses should be to it as well. All that and so much more this week . Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG

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01:18:13

Ref Fellas IV

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2025/12/10

It’s all about the fellas this week as we bring to you Ref Fellas 4. On this episode we talk about everything from Chris Jericho to John Cena’s last match and even who we think the hooded figure is thats inserting himself or herself in matches in WWE. All this and some bold predictions on this weeks episode. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter:

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01:45:51

Under the Skirt with Mosh

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2025/12/03

We go stage diving this week as we welcome in former WWE Tag Team Champion Mosh to the show. As half of the tag team “The Headbangers” Mosh worked with some hall of famer tag teams like the New Age Outlaws and Legions of Doom. The Headbangers started with WWE at the right time with the right characters as they worked a lot of “Shotgun Saturday Nights.” After working many of those shows they made their way to RAW house shows, and pay per views. Mosh’s new book “Beneath the Skirt” is available for

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