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Refin" It Up

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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01:39:24

Reffing To A Handler

Refin" It Up ·

2023/03/01

This week we remember the life and career of a close friend to everyone that met him; we talk everything Tim White. The early days saw him being Andre The Giant’s go to guy. Later on we saw him in the ring as one of the most recognizable referees in WWE history. After getting injured in a Hell In A Cell Match in 2002 Tim began a backstage roll with the company then kept him in the business that he loved so much. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner

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01:53:42

"The Adventures Of Kendrick"

Refin" It Up ·

2023/02/22

Brian Kendrick has wrestled all over the world and this week he explains what wrestling means to him. As an in-ring talent, producer, or promoter Brian Kendrick has done a lot in the business. As the character Spanky, he did some memorable things in the business but came into his own when he started tagging with Paul London and showed the world what he could do. All of this and some great stories with both Jimmy and Brian. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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01:13:40

"Refin Rewind" Gail Kim

Refin" It Up ·

2023/02/15

This week we bring you “Refin Rewind” with Former IMPACT and WWE Women’s Champion Gail Kim. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy Korderas Social Media Twitter: @jimmykorderas IG: @realjimmykorderas Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ajmckaycreative.com Underdog Fantasy Promo Code: REFIN Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping with promo code REFIN at MANSCAPED.com! #ad #manscapedpod An Unscripted

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01:33:43

"The Not So Dirty One"

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2023/02/08

ODB broke barriers for women in professional wrestling and this week she talks about her introduction to wrestling when she auditioned for Tough Enough in 2000. After being eliminated from the competition she made her way to OVW and began to flourish. When ODB joined TNA the women’s division was one of the best in the business at the time, but that has never gotten enough credit. Finally, she touched the ups and downs of running her own business since 2017. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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01:42:57

Regally Devilish

Refin" It Up ·

2023/02/01

Refin It Up gets Regal this week as Brian, Jimmy, and RJ talk about the great career of William Regal. From the age of 15 Regal was fighting for his life in the streets of Blackpool, England. Come 1993 William Regal made his first big run in WCW and brought legitimacy to the TV Title from the start. Within a few years he was wrestling guys like Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat, Arn Anderson, and Larry Zbyszko. He was beginning to make a name for himself all over the world and across many promotions. Then

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01:41:59

The Show That's Larger Then Life

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2023/01/25

We have our biggest show this week as we talk about “Big Show” Paul Wight. Throughout his career in WCW it felt like some starting and stopping until he made the jump to the WWE in 1999 at St. Valentines Day Massacre. During the event Big Show made one of the most iconic debuts in history coming up from under the ring and tossing Steve Austin through the cage during his match against Mr. McMahon. During his WWE career Big Show got some advice from some of the top people in the company; but he also

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01:38:31

The Broken Hardy! Delete!

Refin" It Up ·

2023/01/18

We are woken this week to another WONDERFUL show as Brian, Jimmy, and RJ talk everything Matt Hardy. To do that they welcomed in Jon Alba to administer some great knowledge about Matt Hardy. From starting on a trampoline in his backyard to stealing the show at Wrestle Mania Matt Hardy has an extensive resume and the hardware to go along with it. Listen this week as we prove to you that Matt Hardy is one of the best minds in all of pro wrestling. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG

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01:47:17

I Am Hardcore Country!!!

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2023/01/11

Refin It Up is going “Hardcore Country” this week as we welcome the future Hall of Fame Mickie James to the show. This Friday she faces the current IMPACT Knockouts Champion Jordynne Grace in a title vs career match at Hard To Kill. Mickie has had a long and storied road that has led her to this point in her career, we touch on those moments and so much more this week. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Jimmy

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02:29:11

"It's What Everyone Wants"

Refin" It Up ·

2023/01/04

What does everyone want? Al Snow!!!! That is what you will be getting this week as we welcome one of the best minds in all of professional wrestling to talk shop with Brian, RJ, and our NEW co-host; Jimmy Korderas. If you look at the current landscape of wrestling Al has had a hand in it. Whether it is training the next crop of talent at the OVW training facility or being the lead coach on Tough Enough Al knows talent when he sees it. Not only do we talk about all the things about his career but Al

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01:28:51

"Wolves to Leader of the Pack"

Refin" It Up ·

2022/12/28

From Ring of Honor to NOAH and now in IMPACT Eddie Edwards's list of accomplishments are vast and this week we have the honor of welcoming him on the show. Firstly however we talk about his twenty-year career as well as Brians's involvement with Eddie in the business. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ajmckaycreative.com Underdog Fantasy Promo Code (REFIN)

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00:59:00

Refin Review: Bully Ray

Refin" It Up ·

2022/12/21

This week Brian and RJ are bringing you “Refin Rewind” as they present to you the show we did back in July with Bully Ray. Refin It Up Social Media Twitter and IG @refinitup castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Artwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702 Music by AJ McKay ajmckaycreative.com

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01:04:40

"Rolling The Dice With The Outlandish One"

Refin" It Up ·

2022/12/14

Refin It Up is going “Outlandish” this week as Brian and RJ welcome Zicky Dice to the show. Throughout his career, Zicky has worked his behind off unlike any other talent in the business. He has bet on himself and has gone through a lot of adversity; this week he speaks about that and so much more about the business and more. Lastly, Brian and Zicky go back and remember when Zicky beat Ricky Starks for the NWA Television Championship. They talk about what went into the match the day of and before

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01:50:17

The Beginning till the "Book End'

Refin" It Up ·

2022/12/07

Booker T started on hard times at a young age, but as time went on he made the best out of everything he did. Since the time his brother (Stevie Ray) suggested he start wrestling training with Ivan Putski in 1992, Booker knew that wrestling was for him. Booker was the face of WCW up until the company was sold in 2001; then he became the person that everyone wanted to work with. Booker is one of the guys that should be on everyone's Mount Rushmore of greatest wrestlers of all time and this week we

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02:17:11

Russo:The Truth Is Told

Refin" It Up ·

2022/11/30

Vince Russo has been a polarizing person in the wrestling business for years and this week we welcome him to the show. Vince started in the business as a freelance writer for the WWE magazine and worked his way to head writer for RAW within a few years. Wherever Vince went he brought ratings; from WCW to TNA he made sure he studied the ratings and made each company better. Lastly, Vince touches on his relationship with Dixie Carter and his once-sided beef with Jim Cornette. Refin It Up Social

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01:34:45

The Changing of Faces and Places

Refin" It Up ·

2022/11/23

Brian worked with Eric Young numerous times throughout his time in TNA/IMPACT, and this week Brian remembers the great times working with him and the fact that he could do anything. From Monster Balls Matches to Tag Team matches to working in a faction and finally his great work as a singles wrestler Eric Young was a TNA original and could have matches with anyone. This week we also have another installment of #RefinReview as Brian reflects on the week in the world of a referee in wrestling. Refin

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01:19:25

The Myth... The Legend!!!

Refin" It Up ·

2022/11/16

Earl Hebner has been gracing your television screen for decades as one the most popular referees in the WWE/F, TNA, and NWA. From being the referee for the classic “I Quit” Cage match at Starrcade 1985 between Magnum TA and Tully Blanchard; to months later being part of the best storyline in wrestling history “Twin Magic;” Earl Hebner has done it all in the wrestling business. Earl believes referees should be in the WWE Hall of Fame and if given the chance he would consider being inducted with his

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01:56:11

From the Spider to the Man

Refin" It Up ·

2022/11/09

Trey Miguel has been the cornerstone of the X division in Impact since he came back to the company in January of 2021. Trey talks about what the X division means to him, as well as his feuds with Mike Bailey and Steve Maclin. As part of the Rascalz Trey could really show his talents to the fans but after Wentz and Dez went to WWE Trey entered free agency and took some time off to think about what he really wanted. Lastly, Brian gives his thoughts regarding the 25th Anniversary of the “Montreal Screw

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01:51:23

Passion Is Spelled MACLIN

Refin" It Up ·

2022/11/02

Let the mayhem being this week as we welcome IMPACT wrestler Steve Maclin to the show. The passion that Steve shows in preparation for a match, as well as things that the every day fan wouldn't see behind the scenes makes him a contender for any championship he wants to pursue. Steve Maclin can do it all in wrestling; he has had high flying matches, he has had barb wire matches, and he has even had brawls with the likes of Tomohiro Ishii. On this episode Steve touches on the time he had with WWE

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02:16:53

The Virtuosa of Wrestling

Refin" It Up ·

2022/10/26

Deonna Purrazzo started in Northern New Jersey and made her way to the main event of Hard to Kill 2022 vs Mickie James in a Texas Death Match. This match was the first time a Knockouts match main evented an IMPACT pay per view. Her career was filled with some trials and tribulations as Deonna did it all. From NXT to the main WWE roster and then to ROH where she revitalized the women's division. However, come May of 2020 she made an impact when she received a call from Madison Rayne asking her to

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01:31:18

Penzer... Mic'd Up

Refin" It Up ·

2022/10/19

He graced your TV screens for years as the ring announcer in WCW and TNA/IMPACT and this week we welcome David Penzer to the show . From the early days of WCW until it was purchased by WWF, David rarely missed a show and always did his best work whenever he was announcing your favorite wrestlers. Hear some first hand stories and knowledge from the great days in WCW and TNA/IMPACT. Refin It Up Website castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Refin It Up Social

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