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Refin" It Up

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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01:24:35

Ref Fellas II

Refin" It Up ·

2025/10/29

The boys are back and throwing bows this week but are they going to be disqualified? Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel discuss NXT Halloween Havoc from last week, the number one contenders match on AEW Dynamite. In our second count we talk shop about the announcement of John Cena’s last RAW appearance on November 17 at Madison Square Garden. Goldberg has been all over the internet as of late with his comments; we take a few moments to discuss what we think about them. Lastly, we discuss how good Dominik

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01:14:36

"The Veteran" Thigh Slapper

Refin" It Up ·

2025/10/22

It is a Thigh Slapping good time this week as we welcome “Veteran” Jack Vaughn to the show this week. Jack talks about traveling up and down the roads in independent wrestling, as well as talking opportunities when they come. His great presence on social media has been seldomly duplicated and has to be acknowledged. All this and some great stories =!!!!Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG

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01:14:48

Roger Factor

Refin" It Up ·

2025/10/16

We welcome former WWE referee Roger Ruffen to the show this week. When Roger started he trained to be a wrestler, then he transitioned into being a referee when he joined the then WWF. Years later started training wrestlers like Chris Harris, Abyss, Karl Anderson, Jordan Clearwater, Jillian Hall, Lord Crewe, and Nikki Victory. Roger talks about all this and so much more this week. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner

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01:12:51

Sky is the Limit

Refin" It Up ·

2025/10/08

Refin It Up gets beautiful this week as we welcome one half of the “Beautiful People” and soon to be TNA Hall of Famer Velvet Sky to the show. Velvet sits down with the guys to talk about her phenomenal career, what she is doing currently, and as always brings some great stories to the show. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG:

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01:15:55

Ref Fellas

Refin" It Up ·

2025/10/02

This week is for the fellas, the Refin Fellas. Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel talk shop this week about the NXT and TNA show next Tuesday that could change the landscape of the business. In addition to that we talk about the women’s world title match from Smackdown last week in our Refin Review. Finally, we pull some questions out that Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel haven’t been shown had have some great conversations. All this and so much more!!!Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG

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01:23:10

Shooting The Sh*t

Refin" It Up ·

2025/09/24

Pull up a chair, pop a drink and enjoy this weeks episode as we talk shop on the show. Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel discuss the busy weekend of wrestling as well as the announcement of Mickie James be inducted into the TNA Hall Of Fame. After our packed Refin Review we talk shop about some of the most popular topics in wrestling over the last few years weeks. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG

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01:27:51

Mic Drop with Mr Anderson..... Anderson

Refin" It Up ·

2025/09/17

We welcome Ken Anderson to the show this week. Coming off an appearance at TNA Wresting Ken talks about his career in WWE and TNA and how important Paul Heyman was on his wrestling career. In addition to that Ken talks about his wrestling school in Minnesota and what led to opening it and if he also has one or more matches left in him so his kids can see him in the ring. All this and so much more on our latest episode. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG

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01:37:17

Let's Smoke with RVD

Refin" It Up ·

2025/09/10

The Whole F’n Show RVD joins the show this week to talk about his hall of frame career from his first taste of the business in a segment in 1989 with Ted DiBase to his time in ECW, WWE, and TNA. Finally, RVD touches on the match he had against John Cena at “One Night Stand” in NYC. All this and so much more on our latest episode Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social

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01:39:28

The Current State of Wrestling

Refin" It Up ·

2025/09/03

The current state of wrestling has been talked about at length over the last week and this week Brian, Jimmy, and Daniel talk about just that. We touch on the debut of Real American Freestyle in Cleveland as well as the record breaking WWE show in Paris, France; Clash in Paris. As the educational Refin Review culminates we speak about the news in regards to the passing of Hulk Hogan in addition to the changing culture of wrestling, when enough is enough as a fan, and is there anything really to

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01:28:28

Refin Rewatch

Refin" It Up ·

2025/08/27

It was a busy week in wrestling as we talk shop about AEW Forbidden Door, NXT Heatwave, and the Raja Jackson controversy. In addition to that we have a packed Refin Review. Finally, we watch Christopher Daniels vs AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe from TNA Turning Point 2009 with Slick Johnson as the referee. Match Link DailymotionRefin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter:

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01:43:17

Confessional with Justin Labar

Refin" It Up ·

2025/08/21

Justin Labar joins us this week to talk about what got him into wrestling. Ultimately Justin found himself completing the seventh day of Busted Open on Sunday mornings with his co host Jonathan Hood. Justin talks about their first episode together and how far they have come together over the last two years of the show. As a lifelong Washington Commanders fan Justin and Brian became fast friends as they discussed their love for the Commanders. All this and so much more on this weeks episode

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01:27:05

Betting Against The Odds

Refin" It Up ·

2025/08/14

Always bet on yourself and that’s what we did this week as we welcome Raphael Esparza to the show. As the first person to create betting props for wrestling Raphael has done it all when comes to sports betting and beyond. While living in the Las Vegas area Raphael starting working at a Casio before moving to some of the biggest sports books in the city. All this and what goes into him creating some of his prop bets. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG

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01:43:46

Larger Then Life: "Big Trouble" Ben Bishop

Refin" It Up ·

2025/08/06

He’s 6’12”, 15% of a metric ton, Earthquake and Pillar shaking, Larger then Life, Hotter then Hell, The one thing you came to see, BT Double B Big Trouble Ben Bishop joins us this week. He talks about his recent tryout for WWE and what he took from it. Ben also talks about playing in the NCAA Basketball Tournament while at Vermont. Lastly, been talks about bringing positivity to the sometimes dark place that can be social media. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG

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01:11:23

Hulkamania 4 Life

Refin" It Up ·

2025/07/30

We remember the life and career of the Immortal Hulk Hogan this week. In addition to us remembering Hulk we welcome Earl Hebner and D’lo Brown to the show to share their memories and stories of the two time Hall of Famer Hulk Hogan. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG:

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01:23:17

A Little Ref Chat

Refin" It Up ·

2025/07/23

It’s time for a little ref chat this week. Brian, Daniel, and Jimmy talk about about the record breaking Slammiversary put on by TNA this past Sunday. In addition to our phenomenal Refin Review the boys talk about some of Eric Bischoffs quotes from his interview from the “Ariel Helwani Show,” in regards to TNA and AEW. Finally, we answer some of your questions that you sent in to us this week. Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG

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01:39:24

Diamonds are forever… and so is Tessa Blanchard

Refin" It Up ·

2025/07/17

She is a third generation wrestler, she is the Undeniable Diamond, and a multiple time champion; this week we welcome Tessa Blanchard to the show. She talks about growing up not wanting to be a professional wrestler but then at the age of 18 started her quest to train to become a wrestler. Overcoming some trials and tribulations confronted Tessa early on in her career. She took them all on and started her journey around the world to do everything she could to become the most well rounded wrestler.

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01:39:27

Don't Like People Who Don't Want To Be Cool

Refin" It Up ·

2025/07/09

Now this week’s episode is cool. We are joined by former WWE Intercontinental and United States Champion Carlito. He talks about times in WWE and coming up to the main roster and immediately getting into a storyline with John Cena. When he debuted on Smackdown he beat John Cena for the US Title. He also talks the time he spent away from company until he came back 13 years later at the Royal Rumble and then in PutLastly, goes into depth talking being a member of the Judgement day and then ultimately

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02:22:17

Refin Rewind: Mark Henry

Refin" It Up ·

2025/07/02

This week we get to back to September of 2024 when we welcomed Mark Henry to the show. PLEASE NOTE THIS SHOW HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY AIRED Our conversation with Mark Henry starts at 30:11Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter: @jimmykorderasIG: @realjimmykorderasDaniel Spencer Social Media Twitter/IG: @DanielSpencerArtwork by JD Hoop @JDHoop702Music by Downstait

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01:37:36

ODB BAM!!!

Refin" It Up ·

2025/06/25

ODB and Big Al join us this week to talk about their food trucks “Big Al and ODB’s Meat & Greet.” Currently they have two food trucks with aspirations of expanding across the country. We also talk about some great stories from ODB‘s time at TNA. Big Al and ODB’s Meat and Greet Website https://odbsmeatngreet.comRefin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE, and IG @refinitupWebsite⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/refinitup⁠⁠Brian Hebner Social MediaTwitter/IG @babyhebnerJimmy Korderas Social MediaTwitter:

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01:29:23

Impact Player: Joe Coffey

Refin" It Up ·

2025/06/18

This week Joe Coffey has alot to talk about after being released by WWE last month. In addition to that Joe talks about coming up in Scotland and wrestling for ICW in Glasgow and becoming their champion on two occasions. During his time off from the business Joe has been training with Bobby Fish in his gym so he is ready when he receives the call from the company that wants to sign him to their roster. All this and so much more on this weeks episode!!! Refin It Up Social MediaTwitter, YOUTUBE,

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