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Refin" It Up

Former WWE referees Brian Hebner and Jimmy Korderas and TNA and OVW Senior Referee Daniel Spencer dive deep into the wrestling business and it’s talent from the view of the 3rd man in the ring

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01:22:52

When Bubba Met Bully

Refin" It Up ·

2022/07/20

Bully Ray has one of the greatest wrestling minds of all time. This week on the show we find out just how good of a story teller Bully is inside and outside the ring. Brian remembers the first time he met Bully and D'Von when they came to the WWE from ECW; as well some great stories about working with some of the best wrestlers in the world. From the states to overseas and all points in between Bully has been all over the world and has won numerous championships. Find out what stories Brian and

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01:57:44

Inside the Mind of the Halo

Refin" It Up ·

2022/07/13

It was another interesting week in professional wrestling as Brian shares his thoughts on the news on the Vince McMahon scandal and much more as we dedicate this episode to Christopher Daniels. Brian and RJ welcome the "Fallen Angel" himself to the show to talk about his great career in TNA and more; as well as his great feud with AJ Styles. Daniels also talks about the formation of the tag team with Frankie Kazarian "Bad Influence" as well as the formation of SCU. Finally, we chat about his

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01:45:18

Gail Kim: The Passion of Women's Wrestling

Refin" It Up ·

2022/07/06

Brian and RJ talk about the week that was in professional wrestling in count one; but the main event of the show is Gail Kim. RJ and Brian break down her great wrestling career from WWE to TNA/IMPACT. Gail touches on some of the trying times in the business after being released from WWE and the great times she had in TNA. Gail Kim revolutionized women’s wrestling and you can hear the passion she has for it on this great episode. Gail Kim Social Media @gailkimitsme Refin it Up

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01:20:29

The Heel From Hell... JBL

Refin" It Up ·

2022/06/29

He is a wrestling god and this week we pay homage to John Bradshaw Layfield. From his college football days to Japan and up to his WWE run JBL can say he has done it all in the wrestling business. He is best known for being three time WWE Tag Team Champion with Faaroq aka Ron Simmons, but what we will be focusing on today is his feud with Eddie Guerrero in 2004. More specifically we are going to be talking about his match with Eddie from Judgement Day 2004. Brian has plenty of stories from that

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02:04:32

Final Count

Refin" It Up ·

2022/06/15

You have been waiting for the last month and a half for Brian's special announcement regarding his wrestling career. That and so much more is waiting for you on this weeks episode of Refin It Up. Special Thanks To Our Surprise Guests.... Jimmy Korderas Daniel Spencer Earl Hebner Gail Kim Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/IG @babyhebner Refin It Up Website castpie.com/refinitup

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01:01:44

It’s 619 Time

Refin" It Up ·

2022/06/08

Whats that in the sky? Is it a bird ? Is it a plane? No its Rey Mysterio and this week Brian dives deep into the career of Mr 619 himself Rey Mysterio. From the age of 14 Rey knew what he wanted to do and that was follow in his uncles footsteps and become a professional wrestler. From 1989 onwards Rey Mysterio outperformed and outworked a lot of the talent in ECW, WCW, AAA, and WWE. Find out what Brian had to say about this and the match he was apart of from September 9, 2005 as Rey took on Eddie

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01:04:27

Just Simply Phenomenal

Refin" It Up ·

2022/06/01

AJ Styles has done everything there has to do in the wrestling business!!! From TNA to NJPW and now currently in WWE; AJ Styles has won championships all over the world. When all said is done his name will be synonymous with the greats in professional wrestling. AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels Destination X 2012 Last Man Standing Match Part one: https://youtu.be/JJJHL8QoxtA Part two: https://youtu.be/7BG7xkMO56Y Jarrod Fritz Contact Information Twitter @jfritzreffit Instagram

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01:20:09

What's Causin' Aldis

Refin" It Up ·

2022/05/25

He is the Real World Heavyweight Champion, He is The National Treasure, and this week Nick Aldis joins the show. However firstly, Brian and RJ talk about two of the biggest stories from this past week in the world of professional wrestling. Nick Aldis has done it all as the first British born TNA heavyweight champion; from being one of the best young wrestlers in TNA to being the face that runs the place in the NWA. With some legendary stories being told this week we are positive you will enjoy this

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01:09:27

Can You See Him?

Refin" It Up ·

2022/05/18

Its very apparent that everyone can see him!!! John Cena is one the the most notable WWE superstars for over two decades. From Ruthless Aggression, to the Doctor of Thuganomics and beyond we cover it all this week. Brian and RJ also touch on two of the most popular topics from this past week in wrestling. Finally, we talk about Johns match vs the Undertaker from Smackdown on August 7, 2003. This was a rematch from Vengeance that saw Cena lose to Undertaker. It was a twenty one minute match that

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01:13:44

Holding Court w/ The King

Refin" It Up ·

2022/05/11

This week we have the honor to welcome Kenny King to the show as we talk about when he defended his X Division Title for the first time against Zema Ion and Christian York at Lockdown 2013. Kenny and Brian remember this match very fondly for a spot within the first 8 minutes of the match that could've hurt Kenny badly; but he powered through it. This and the story of the formation of "Beat Down Clan" with Kenny, Lashley, and MVP which was one of the biggest misses in TNA history. Before that RJ

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00:53:23

The Most Electrifying Podcast

Refin" It Up ·

2022/05/04

This week is the most electrifying show we have ever done. It all about The Rock this week . From his humble beginnings to being one of the most popular and revered men in the world. The Rock has done it all; main eventing wrestle mania as well as starring in blockbuster motion pictures. We take you back to August 20, 2001 when Rock wrestled in a match against Lance Storm for his newly won WCW Championship. Brian breaks down what when into it as well as some great stories Refin It Up

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01:11:18

Lie, Cheat, and Stole our Hearts

Refin" It Up ·

2022/04/27

Brian and RJ remember "Latino Heat" Eddie Guerrero this week on Refin It Up. Brian started watching Eddie when he was in WCW and was fortunate enough to get to to him not only professionally but personally when he got to travel with him a number of times. Brian was also honored to be the third man in the ring when Eddie beat Brock Lesnar for his first WWE Heavyweight Championship at No Way Out 2004. As the show goes on the stories about Eddie backstage and a few ribs are a plenty as we remember a

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00:52:19

Storms are Brewing

Refin" It Up ·

2022/04/20

This week Brian and RJ talk about one of the greatest tag teams of all time , Robert Roode and James Storm, Beer Money. From their formation in 2008 up until their singles runs, Storm and Roode did it all and beat them all in the TNA tag team division. Brian and RJ are thrilled to welcome James Storm himself to the show as they all remember Beer Money vs Motor City Machine Guns from Genesis 2011. The stories continue this week as Brian and James remember their great times together in TNA and

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01:05:31

Slaps Heard Around The World

Refin" It Up ·

2022/04/13

The man in the stripes is back again this week to talk about a man that influenced his career in many ways. Brian and RJ remembers the career of Jeff Jarrett; from the country music star all the way to the king of the mountain. Jeff is one of the smartest minds in the wrestling business as we remember how impactful he was on the wrestling business as a wrestler, owner, and promoter. With Jeff coming from a wresting family we knew we were going to have plenty of great wrestling stories about the

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00:53:34

Locking In On The Intensity

Refin" It Up ·

2022/04/06

This week Brian remembers the wrestling machine Kurt Angle. With all the hype coming into the company after his gold medal victory at the 1996 Olympics Brian quickly learned how successful he was going to be. There was no matching Kurts intensity in the match that Brian was a part of against Shawn Michaels at Wrestle Mania 21. Later on Brian worked with him even more at TNA after Kurt left WWE. The stories continue this week as Brian puts Kurt on the mount rushmore of greatest workers of all

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01:00:56

American Badass Meets The Beast

Refin" It Up ·

2022/03/30

This week the Undertaker will be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame but first Brian talks about his history with him. The stories are a plenty; from the first time he met him as a child, to some wrestlers court stories, to working with him in the WWE, and finally to the time that Undertaker saved his career. Refin It Up Website Castpie.com/refinitup Brian Hebner Social Media Twitter/Instagram: @babyhebner

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00:53:05

Stinger/Jeff Hardy Debacle

Refin" It Up ·

2022/03/23

From the 1980s all the way up to current day "The Icon" Sting has been the franchise of every promotion he has been in. Stings feuds with Hulk Hogan and Ric Fair in NWA/WCW put him on the map; his later feuds with Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe in TNA cemented him as the wrestling icon that we all know today. Brian also shares his thoughts and stories from the infamous match from Victory Road 2011 between Sting and Jeff Hardy. Refin It Up Website castle.com/refinitup Twitter and

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00:01:15

Refin' It Up with Brian Hebner

Refin" It Up ·

2022/02/26

COMING SOON TO ALL YOUR PODCAST PLATFORMS SOCIAL MEDIA TWITTER AND IG @RefinItUp

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