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Making Creativity Pay

Welcome to ‘Making Creativity Pay’, this isn’t a podcast about making millions, more about speaking to people in creative industries whether that’s music, literature, art or anything that relies on creativity about how that ties in with making a living from it. The aim is not about selling out any creative endeavour but to ensure that there is at least some way to pay the bills and keep the lights on, money can be seen to be a vulgar part of the process but getting fairly paid for the time, effort

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00:43:42

Hot Death Theatre - Fringes across Europe

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2025/02/23

“ I think there's generally like one or two people who win the Fringe every year and everyone else just has a time ranging from OK to heart breaking, our Fringe experiences as Hot Death Theatre have sort of sat more in the heart breaking camp. Whereas our experiences with almost every other Fringe we've done have been quite uplifting”I spoke with Freya and Lawrence of Hot Death Theatre about their shows b i r d and Powersuit, we talk about the different atmospheres for various fringes and

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00:28:04

Josienne Clarke and Alec Bowman Clarke

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2025/02/08

“ It certainly feels like the entire structure of the music industry has been created and maintained to separate the artist from their money.”This episode is with Musician Josienne Clarke and Filmmaker Alec Bowman Clarke, we talk about the music industry, Josienne’s crowdfunder for her new album and the accompanying making-of documentary Alec is filming as part of the process.We also discuss Josienne’s experiences in the industry that has taken in working with record labels as well as being an

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00:36:29

Punk Meets Partridge - Playwright Laura Horton

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2025/01/26

I spoke with Laura Horton about how a meeting with Viv Albertine of The Slits was a catalyst for the play that became Lynn Faces, a “punk meets Partridge” show that combines getting over a toxic relationship, punk music and Alan Partridge’s PA Lynn.We talk about getting caught up with the difficulties her Edinburgh Fringe venue Summerhall had and how it seemed that she may never get paid her box office takings. The show is now on a national tour (dates below) and we discussed the various challenges

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00:07:03

Fringe Thoughts Part 02 - 11th August 2024

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2024/08/11

"It's sort of about famous women who have died tragically throughout history and how many of them have ended up in rivers" - Laura ThurlowIn our second episode at the Fringe we hear from another three performers who are taking part in the Fringe. Links River Time! Tickets: https://tickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/river-time Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurelbrae/ TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@laurelbrae Dinner Tickets:

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00:09:50

Fringe Thoughts Part 01 - 1st August 2024

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2024/08/01

With the Edinburgh Fringe up and running (for many it's been going since January or earlier with Work In Progress shows), I heard from a number of performers about their preparations and also tips for making the most of the Fringe experience.If you're performing at the Fringe and you'd be interested in being on the podcast during August get in touch. Links Girlhood Tickets: https://tickets.edfringe.com/whats-on/girlhood Twitter: https://x.com/GirlhoodThePlay Instagram:

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01:00:56

Lorna Rose Treen and Jonathan Oldfield

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2024/07/22

"You can't interview a ghost on this show. But you can have a woman who has swallowed her whole forearm"I spoke to Lorna Rose Treen and Jonathan Oldfield about a range of subjects including their Radio 4 show Time of The Week which you can currently catch up with on BBC Sounds. We also chat about their experiences with character comedy, drama and improvisation as well as discussing their experiences at the Edinburgh Fringe and Lorna’s experiences of winning Dave’s ‘Best Joke of the

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00:47:23

Queen of Breakups - Rosie Wilby

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2024/06/10

Rosie is a musician who's played Glastonbury, a Comedian who has taken multiple shows to the Edinburgh Fringe, as well as a British Podcast Award nominated podcaster for her Podcast 'The Breakup Monologues' as well as the author of 'Is Monogamy Dead?' and 'The Breakup Monologues'.We discuss her experiences in these areas, the high and low points of each (both financial and emotional) and her future plans as a Fiction writer. Check out Rosie’s book / audiobook The

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00:46:30

800lb Gorilla - Promoting UK Comedy

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2024/05/27

This episode is with Ian Adkins and Laura Rouxel of 800lb Gorilla a comedy media company who produce, distribute, and market stand-up comedy video specials and audio albums around the world.We talk in particular about the work of 800lb Gorilla in the UK, filming and promoting specials for comedians such as Stuart Goldsmith, Fern Brady, Christopher Macarthur-Boyd, Ivo Graham and many more. We talk about their relationship with artists, promoting UK acts in America and Australia, the importance of

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00:13:40

I Hope You Fail - AI and Art

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2024/04/21

It’s impossible to move at the moment for think pieces about the future of AI and for better or worse you’re getting another one here.In this episode I’ll talk a bit about examples from art, music, writing and coding and how what could be an incredible advance for some will bring consequences for others. I show how with text to speech advances it's hard to tell real and AI adverts apart, how whole songs can be created from just a sentence and the argument around 'homeopathic robbery' in

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00:29:32

Award Winning Journalist Rachael Healy

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2024/03/24

“It feels like people do have to almost have a second career to support themselves. And it's not clear where the kind of goals or the safe spot is anymore where you can just fully concentrate on that thing”Rachael Healy is an award winning journalist and the current British Journalism Awards Journalist of the year for Arts and Entertainment. Rachael is a freelance journalist working predominantly with The Guardian and the i newspapers and we talk about getting articles commissioned, from show

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00:37:29

Comedy and Medicine - Matt Hutchinson

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2024/03/18

“...people who go into medicine, often it's not so much just pure science people, it's people who've got maybe a bit more of a broader interest range than your standard person who just wants to be a scientist or a mathematician or something like that. So I think often you find people going into it who've got a bit of a second interest, even at the point of sort of choosing what career they're going into.”This episode is with Comedian Matt Hutchinson we talk about his experiences

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00:59:59

Jay Lafferty and Kathleen Hughes - Comedy in Scotland

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2024/03/11

Ahead of the Glasgow comedy festival which runs from the 13th to the 31st March I spoke to comedians Jay Lafferty and Kathleen Hughes two Scottish comedians who are performing at the festival. We talk about Kathleen’s experiences as a relatively newer comedian who after a two week run last year is currently preparing for her first full Edinburgh Fringe run in 2024. We also discuss Jay’s experiences as a full time comedian, going on a nationwide tour with her show ‘Bahookie’ and how the Scottish

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00:36:24

LMAOnaise - Crowdfunding, Journalism and Newsletters

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2024/03/03

“Finding out information about comedy, if you don't already know what you're looking for can be ridiculously overwhelming”This episode I spoke to Zoë Paskett founder of LMAOnaise a website, newsletter and soon to be newspaper that covers some of the less mainstream areas of comedy. The ethos of this podcast has always been that even if your art may not be driven by money, without the money it’s difficult to keep creating the art and so marketing matters and my chat with Zoë was a great

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00:36:17

The Lancashire Hotpots - 21st Century Folk

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2024/02/26

"With the advent of social media and Myspace as was, we sort of got a bit of a following and we've been growing our audience ever since"This episode is with Sheldon Southworth AKA Dickie Ticker from the band The Lancashire Hotpots. The band's motto is “21st Century Folk for 21st Century folk” and have released albums including Never Mind the Hotpots and Achtung Gravy and have performed at festivals such as Glastonbury and Kendall Calling as well as touring the country and are

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00:44:11

Beyond the Fringe to London and Bristol - Cowboys and...

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2024/02/19

“It’s a romantic comedy with added sexy cowboys” Eleanor Birdsall-Smith is producer of the sell-out Edinburgh Fringe show ‘Cowboys and Lesbians’ which is about to embark on a 3 week run at the Park Theatre in London and The Wardrobe Theatre in Bristol. We talk about her background in TV, her Fringe experiences including the importance of reviews and the tactics of flyering as well as the impact of a name change to the show. LINKS Park Theatre London (Feb 21st - Mar

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00:36:46

Pop Star Alexis Strum

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2024/02/12

"Even though they took my songs, I still felt like a failure, and I did for the largest part of the last 10, 15 years. I felt like I failed at music" Alexis talks about her experiences as a singer/songwriter, comedian and actress, about going viral on TikTok and her resurgence as a pop star 20 years on. We talk about having songs she’s written being recorded by Kylie Minogue and Rachel Stevens, the impact being dropped by her record label had on her and her determination to make the most

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00:46:41

Content is Queen - Kat Molesworth

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2024/02/06

Kat Molesworth who as well well as having a huge amount of experience in digital marketing is event producer at Content is Queen who are running the International Women’s Podcast Festival which is taking place in London in October. We talk about traditional offline promotion for podcasts, what makes engaging social content to drive activity to your podcast as well as discussing the festival and Kat’s aims for it in more detail. There’s a load of other practical bits of advice from Kat throughout the

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01:01:30

ChatGPT and Creativity - Andy Stanton

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2024/01/29

"I think life is bigger than AI. I don't think AI is bigger than life. That may be the most naïve thing anyone has ever said on the subject. We'll see." Andy Stanton is an author best known for his ‘Mr Gum’ Children’s books and has written a book called Benny the Blue Whale: A Descent into Story, Language and the Madness of ChatGPT which is available in print and also as an audiobook with ChatGPT voiced by Nish Kumar. As you’ll hear from our talk this doesn’t mean he’s typed a

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00:39:09

Comedy for Beginners through to the Fringe - Dec Munro

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2024/01/15

“If you're really Into making it, into doing it, the worst thing in life is getting to 85 and not having tried to do the things that you want to do or not having been your best self” Dec Munro is a comedy director and producer and co-founder of the Bill Murray comedy club. Dec has directed loads of Edinburgh Fringe shows for performers such as Stuart Goldsmith, Mawaan Rizwan, Angela Barnes, Sofie Hagen and many more. We discuss the role of a director in a show, about drawing out ideas and

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00:41:50

Liam Withnail - Chronic Boom & Enjoy an Album

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2023/12/18

"I was in hospital listening to this country album, going, ah, life's too short for me to be listening to country music every other week" On this episode is comedian and podcaster Liam Withnail. Off the back of a sell-out run of his show 'Chronic Boom' at the Edinburgh Fringe. I talk to Liam about his experiences at the Festival in August, what he did to promote the show, the challenges he faced putting the show together and how he’s now taking it nationwide with a tour

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