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Heritage Mezcal

Chava Periban, Roy Sierra

A podcast about all things agave that ventures into baseball, marble, tlayudas and other delights.

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00:15:31

Titanium Dioxide Against Vinasses

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/08/09

Vinasses, which are most likely the most offensive of the byproducts when making mezcal or tequila, can be neutralized in a number of ways. Scientists are always trying to offer more efficient and cost effective options, one of which was brought to our attention by our brilliant medical correspondent, Ryan Aycock (aka Cocktail MD). The technical specifics of how Titanium Dioxide nanoparticles is not really the main focus of this episode, but we decided to delve into what would happen if this

00:36:46

Bacanora is Sonora

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/07/31

As most things that have been created in Northern Mexico, Bacanora tends to create more questions than answers. It may have and active Denomination of Origin and there are some really awesome brands out there bringing some delicious juice, but many of the stories linked to its origins are still obscure. In this conversation with Javier Oroz (mastermind behind @bastardosdelbacanora and @santocuviso) we tried to briefly explore Bacanora's extremely convoluted history. We hope you enjoy it!

00:21:43

Scale Matters

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/07/18

How big is it too big? When does a mezcalero stops being "small batch" and migrates to something that could be labeled as not truly artisanal?In this conversation with jóven Jon Darby (patrón at @sin_gusano) we dabble around some some of these questions, while sipping some rarities, that according my invitee prove that he may not be the worst purist in this industry.I hope you enjoy this one.

00:23:08

Agave Science Popurrí

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/07/03

A popurrí is the ultimate mix, an intense collage of songs merged together to accelerate enjoyment. I am sure that the term has been confined to music because if someone were to create the "taco popurrí" it would be too much for humanity to withstand. But jokes aside, this episode is exactly that, a "Popurrí" . Fabio Raya, one of my favorite scientists on earth, was in town and we decided to talk all things agave in one shot while we were sipping gorgeous pulque. I hope you enjoy this

00:35:51

Stable Pulque

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/06/19

So many of the most valuable Mexican products are tremendously fragile. A perfectly ripe zapote, a prime "lechón", a fresh habanero salsa and my always beloved pulque. In this episode with Cesar Ojeda, aka @intergalacticyeastieboy, we talk about some of his most recent experiments regarding pulque fermentation, we touch a bit on social justice and we do laugh quite a bit. Welcome to Heritage Mezcal, I hope you enjoy this one.

00:31:49

Amasijo

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/06/12

There are many ways to access the very vast diversity within Mexican food and drinks. Some love spirits, others honey or tea. But Martina ( from @colectivoamasijo) has been working with many different producers from around the country trying to showcase milpa-based agricultural products. We hope you enjoy this episode that delves into the many faces of Mexican agriculture.

00:26:09

Lamparillo Puntas

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/06/05

If there has been an agave that I've been aggressively celebrating for the last few years, it definitely has been Lamparillo.I still remember the first time I tried and I was so confused.I just didn't know that an agave could create that specific set of flavors and aromasBut most importantly I couldn't imagine the kind of landscape that could foster such an unique agave.To better understand this convoluted story please welcome Sergio Garnier, patrón at Ultramundo Mezacal, and his tremendous love for

00:36:44

Pulque "Aristocracy"

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/05/29

Arguably the first person to coin the term pulque aristocracy was Jose Vasconcelos, one of Mexico's most famous intellectuals.Using this term he was referring to the many families that recognized in pulque a profitable industry that fueled both exceptional festivities and everyday work.But now pulque is almost a rarity in Mexico City, and the once buoyant business is an almost extinct tradition. I had the chance to talk with Martina Manterola, whose family was part of such aristocracy, exploring

00:30:08

Dancing Booze

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/05/15

Different places ask for different drinks, even certain music styles, in my opinion, need specific booze pairings. And even though I am always the first to complain when I can't find delicious complex spirits in the middle of the night. I am starting to understand that calibrating which booze is served on a dancefloor is a important as the stage and lights design.Without further adieu, please welcome Roberto Ávila, and his many insights on how to create accurate booze experiences.

00:21:53

Your Mezcal Brand

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/05/08

There are so many reasons why people may start a mezcal brand. Some do it for the money, some for love and some others because the craft has been in their families for generations. But regardless of how you started, nobody, to my understanding, has found a perfect formula to maintain exceptional quality while still paying the bills.Without further adieu please welcome Sergio Garnier, from Ultramundo Mezcal, and his rather atypical approach to owning a mezcal brand.

00:14:13

Spiky Agave

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/05/03

Like many agricultural products, agaves have developed a complex relationship with humans over millennia. Some agaves were chosen to make rope, others to extract pulque and maybe the luckiest of them all to create mezcal. But there've been many other more subtle ways in which people have chosen their favorite agaves to deal with. In this conversation with Fabio Raya we talk about the agaves that were favored in Brazil versus those that we decided to love in Mexico.

00:18:35

For the Love of Dogs

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/04/25

For a while I was not sure if I wanted to publish this episode. But I think there are quite a few things hiding in the middle of this conversation that somehow relate to the clash of cultures within mezcal. Without further adieu please welcome Dalton Kreiss and his impressive affection for dogs.

00:20:47

Mezcal Puritans

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/04/17

This episode is not about a new religion, so don't you worry. This episode is about trying to better understand some of the people in the tequila, mezcal and agave spirits multiverse that I would say have a very clear and unmovable set of ideas of how these categories should behave. So I decided to do an episode, with my good friend Jon Darby. I've referred to him before as one of the worst purists in the business, but he knows I say with affection.Without further adieu please welcome Jon and his

00:41:39

Glorious Herbs

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/04/11

I've been thinking so much about the things that are so close to us, so ubiquitous, that we decide to erase them completely. Octavio Paz, our literature nobel prize, explores this intensively in his famous book "The Labyrinth of Solitude". He talks about "Ningunear", which is the act of making someone, no one. We've done this to so many Mexican products. but a group that I believe has been ninguneado like no other, are the thousands of traditional herbs that are still used today for making

00:34:14

Rural Chilango

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/04/03

Having a conversation with Vinik is never a straight line. We always allocates the unexpected crevices, he finds ways of expanding what may seem bland and inoffensive.He may even be a spy, considering his very avid interest on maps, borders and the rivers that run through them. But the most important thing, is that he is a rather entertaining human to share conversations and mezcalitos. Without further adieu, please welcome Vinik Jure, and his aggressively eclectic mind.

00:59:36

Cacao Genetics

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/03/27

Welcome to the longest episode I've ever recorded. And usually I would say this as a warning, but while listening to it I realized that this conversation touched on so many things that I believe are critical not only to cacao but to all Mexican craft, including agave spirits.Without further adieu please welcome Jose Lopez Ganem and his poignant perspective on how we can create a slightly better world through cacao.

00:39:42

What is Tuxca?

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/03/21

There are a multitude of different names that people use to call agave spirits around Mexico. The most prominent ones are obviously Tequila and Mezcal. But if you travel a bit more you'll find names like Tepe, Ixcateco, Minero, Bacanora, Raicilla and so on and so on.Tuxca is one of those names. But I find that currently there is a good amount of misinformation about the origin and history of such a name. So I decided to invite Edwin, who is currently making his doctoral thesis about historical

00:40:52

Expand and Translate

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/03/14

I've always been fascinated about how things travel and get to be transformed. One of my favorite stories on the matter is how Jose Luis Borges decided to learn Icelandic just to have access to language that has been frozen in time within a very cold and isolated island (excuse the pun). Mexico is the complete opposite, both our language and our culture has traveled and has been transformed in a multitude of ways. In today's world, in which a big part of having a restaurant or a bar is being able to

00:40:08

Can DOs work?

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/03/06

The controversies around who gets to use the words tequila or mezcal are never ending. All of which are linked to how the PDOS, or Protected Designations of Origin, for each one of these products were written.That is why I decided to invite the man I call the “Cheese Superman” to this podcast. I find cheese to be very relevant to understand this matter because one of the first PDOs, back in 1925, was created to protect Roquefort and fight its counterfeits. According to the Roquefort official website

00:22:24

Aging Rum

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/02/28

If you want to pick up a quick fight with a mezcal nerd you just need to start throwing compliments to añejos and reposados.It'll get even worse if you claim that the best Tepextate you've ever had spent 12 years in bourbon barrels and that the most complex sotol you've ever encountered was pink and shiny from resting in barrels previously used to mature red wine. Even at the risk of creating some violent confrontations I wanted to explore the world of aging, but instead of using the very

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