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Heritage Mezcal

Chava Periban, Roy Sierra

A podcast about all things agave that ventures into baseball, marble, tlayudas and other delights.

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00:44:50

Agave Science Popurrí Pt. 2

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/10/30

In this conversation with my dear friend Fabio Raya, we explore many of the ideas we were exposed to at the "VI Simposio Internacional de Agave". This episode includes everything from using agave as livestock silage to developing a comprehensive strategy for using 2 million hectares of Mexican arid land—a full labyrinth.Big shout-out to Fernanda Arrillaga, from Casa Sotol, for hosting us and letting us record at her beautiful house in Saltillo.And huge thanks to Alan and the whole team at

00:55:55

Mexican Wine

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/09/17

Wine has a long history in Mexico, with its introduction arguably dating back to the 16th century. However, it was never massively consumed in the same manner as pulque, beer, or vino de mezcal. There are even annecdotes about communion wine was spiked with coconut spirits (vino de coco) to give it some proper potency.But our relationship with grapes has been changing in recent years. The wines from Baja California have gained a consistent following, and new regions all around Mexico have been

00:49:41

Querido Sotol ~ Spanish Spoken / Hablado en Español ~

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/08/29

Este es el primer episodio que se graba en español y estoy tremendamente orgulloso de eso. Para esta nueva realidad paralela bilingüe del podcast, quise empezar con un episodio que resolvió muchas de las dudas que llevaba cargando desde hace tiempo. El sotol, o los sotoles, o los dasylirion, para ser más específico, son algo que me emociona y me intimida. No solamente los sabores me son difíciles de descifrar, sino todo lo que los rodea. Desde su identidad genética hasta las muchas maneras de

00:48:39

Flavour Hunting

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/08/27

There are so many things that you could do with your life. You could dedicate decades to science, get into politics, and figure out how to reach world peace, and then there are flavors and pleasures. Which seems less important, a luxury amongst needs. Yet, there are companies paying millions of dollars to develop and protect specific formulations. People go crazy about securing a reservation at the most celebrated restaurants in the world, and many of our memories are forever linked to particular

00:53:03

Rethinking Oak

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/06/17

Aging agave spirits (with the exception of tequila) is still a taboo, something you talk about using your softest voice not to gain some pretty vocal enemies. Yet, the influence of barrels (and clay vessels) has been critical to the evolution of spirits, wine, and beer for at least a few thousand years.While there are very sophisticated studies dedicated to better understanding this piece of technology, its basis has remained mostly unchanged. In this conversation with Cal Larson we explore the

00:33:39

Mezcal From the Heart

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/05/21

Mezcal is equally fascinating and terrifying for those who may not be familiar with it. Some are curious but too shy to venture beyond a cocktail, while others can take significant chances, to the point that one day, they may even become fellow agave nerds.To promote the right environment where curiosity can bloom, the person handing these spirits has to be gentle and firm. Capable of sharing mezcal directly from the heart.Please welcome Miryam Sierra, and her intense passion for expanding mezcal's

00:48:30

From Bleak to Lush

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/05/01

The agave spirits multiverse is as exciting as ever. The conversation has been expanding year after year, bringing to light new regions, agaves and production techniques. But, at least personally, certain places have been more prolific than others. As I've stated in previous episodes, I have an ongoing romance with Salmiana, and I've been exploring the Bajío region with passion for the last few years. The Casa Agave project checks all of these boxes and more. They plant and harvest their agaves

00:50:20

Inaccurate Regulation

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/04/11

Lately, I’ve been in a little bit of a conundrum. I’ve been asking myself what the most important aspect of mezcal is that I should be talking about. Should I focus on the history, the culture, the market, the flavors, or the technicalities? After much thinking, I realized that I should attempt to cover all of this and more. Because that is the only way to approach such a complex spirit.So, I am always hunting for minds that understand agave and dasylirion spirits in atypical, enriching ways. The

00:45:28

Neverending Chihuahua

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/03/20

Chihuahua is not only Mexico's largest state but also full of neverending stories. The first episode I ever recorded about this state was more of an ode: two people who had recently found Chihuahua and had become hardcore fans overnight. But, after that, I wanted to record with someone that had deep roots and a fine-tuned expertise in the territory. This conversation with Alessandra Camino has become my new excuse to delve further into sotol and the many Chihuahuan delights I have yet to experience

00:44:09

Mezcal Beyond Commerce Pt 2

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/02/26

00:43:29

Vital Water

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/02/11

More and more I've been thinking that we could summarize agave as the lovely culmination of three main variables: agave, yeast and water.In this podcast I believe we've explored in great depth agave and yeast, but we had only superficially touched on water. There are plenty of themes to explore within this realm, but given the times we live in, I thought that exploring reasonable ways of using this vital resource was a good place to start. Mezcal, some would say, is not a basic necessity. So, is it

00:40:06

Rephrasing Spirits

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/01/22

There are so many things that we just do. We don't know where did they start or why do we do them . Pure social inertia. Sharing drinks at a bar, at least for me, is one of those things. Many people in other places socialize or party differently. But in the West, cheering over cocktails, beers, or mezcalitos, if you are lucky, is the norm.In this conversation with Kraig Rovensky we explore the many ways in which the spirits industry, and the places where we party and socialize, are changing. And

00:46:05

Mezcal Beyond Commerce

Heritage Mezcal ·

2025/01/08

In this episode with Fabiola Santiago, President and Executive Director at Mi Oaxaca (an NGO which aims to “preserve Oaxaca’s indigenous food and beverage cultures through narrative change, education and collaboration with compatible organizations across borders”) we talk about so many things that I believe are critical for the future of mezcal. Things like how terrenos comunales work, the impact of mezcal in Santiago Matatlán, how, in a perfect world, should mezcal be presented to consumers and the

00:39:44

Sharing Mezcal

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/12/23

It is undeniable that mezcal has become a poster child in the alcohol world. A spirit that in a way brings us hope, because it is a reflection of many biocultural legacies. , Those beautiful relationships that are slowly formed between humans and their environments if both sides decide to respect and enhance each other. Yet, as pretty as all of this sounds, sharing mezcal is an incredible challenge. Even more so if you want to convince people to drink it slowly and patiently. Please welcome Sofía

00:28:10

Scary Methanol

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/12/04

Methanol is one of the scariest things I can possibly imagine. We’ve all read stories about people getting intoxicated. Losing their sight and sometimes even their lives. And with all of that as a backdrop I’ve always wondered: why is it that after sampling hundreds of agave and dasylirion spirits that have never been tested, have I never had any problems with this? That answer belongs to a longer, more convoluted discussion, but for now, let’s start exploring methanol from a medical standpoint,

00:32:08

¡Viva Chihuahua!

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/11/20

Spirits are quite a weird thing. They are everywhere; you engage with them constantly at bars, concerts and restaurants and yet, it is rather difficult to share your thoughts and ideas about them. People get shy and weird when you try to dissect the origin, flavors or implications of a spirit.- Why can’t you just shut up and have fun! - I’ve been shouted at many, many times. That is why I find tremendous joy in the little but great community of mezcal and sotol enthusiasts that I’ve encountered in

00:45:47

Agave's Biocultural Heritage

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/11/06

In this episode on Heritage Mezcal, I had the opportunity to have a delightful conversation with Eric Zandona. He is an incredibly booze-informed gentleman, and the organizer of the ADI’S International Spirits Competition, which, if you were to ask me, offers a great chance for brands of all sizes to break into the US market. Especially if you have something that may shock the nerds. They are not sponsoring this episode, but after being invited a few times as a judge, I can say that I’ve never met a

00:34:11

10,000 Years of Agave History

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/10/17

Agaves and humans have always had an intimate relationship but, believe it or not, a significant part of if has nothing to do with booze. As we've discussed before in this podcast agaves provided to our ancestors with many charms; from clothing to nourishment. But given the fact that many of these relationships have disappeared, this wider understanding of agave is quite hard to imagine. That is why Marcela Sandoval has been researching how and why and with which consequences did humans

00:23:39

Drink More Pox

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/10/04

Pox, the quintessential Chiapas spirit, is probably the most mysterious Mexican drink that I've encountered in my life. It was a big part of my early 20's, but I never truly understood its technicalities or cultural relevance. Happily, thanks to Javier Oroz, who I just interviewed a few weeks ago (go check the Bacanora episode), I got to meet Zury Guindi.Zury started bottling bottling Pox back in 2011 under the umbrella of "Siglo Cero". When even mezcal was just starting to happen, he decided to

00:26:44

Tahona Mezcal Room

Heritage Mezcal ·

2024/08/21

This is the beginning of a series where both Roy and Chava go around the many venues that hold agave collections that they think are pretty and tasty. Some may be the usual suspects but others may be hiding in plain view, just like Tahona Mezcal Room. Join Chava and Julie Mann Wharton in a conversation that includes tips on how to party when in Brazil, the different types of cachacas you should look for and how this tasting room came to be. Saludcita!

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