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Refrigerator Moms

Kelley Jensen, Julianna Scott

Born from 20 years of friendship, during which they navigated the trenches of autism parenting and advocacy, the Refrigerator Moms is Kelley Jensen and Julianna Scott’s way of reaching out to parents waging the same battles they were. Their purpose with this podcast is to clear the fog, silence the noise, and find a path through neurodivergence for parents that are stuck between bad choices. They tackle parenting topics such as mom guilt, tantrums, pathological demand avoidance, siblings,

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All Episodes

20:00

Cold Hard Truths: Gene Site Testing, Parenting...

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2025/09/03

Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen tackle essential parenting decisions with practical wisdom. They address medication timing concerns, explore the benefits of gene site testing for personalized treatment approaches, and distinguish between parenting instinct versus developed parenting skills. The hosts celebrate autistic joy through recent research findings, sharing personal stories about their children's special interests from lawnmowers to cake decorating. They provide a systematic

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35:47

Out of Control: Tantrums, Meltdowns, and Panic Attacks

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2025/09/03

This week Julianna and Kelley break down the critical differences between tantrums, meltdowns, and panic attacks—three big emotional experiences that are often confused on social media. A tantrum communicates "I want it, but I can't have it," a meltdown says "it's all too much, and I can't handle it," and a panic attack means "I'm scared, and I don't know what to do." Understanding these distinctions helps parents respond appropriately with different de-escalation techniques. The hosts

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20:00

Cold Hard Truths: Gene Site Testing, Parenting...

Refrigerator Moms ·

2025/08/27

Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen tackle essential parenting decisions with practical wisdom. They address medication timing concerns, explore the benefits of gene site testing for personalized treatment approaches, and distinguish between parenting instinct versus developed parenting skills. The hosts celebrate autistic joy through recent research findings, sharing personal stories about their children's special interests from lawnmowers to cake decorating. They provide a systematic

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36:48

A Tough Pill to Swallow: Medicating Autism

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2025/08/20

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen tackle the challenging topic of medicating autistic children in "A Tough Pill to Swallow: Medicating Autism." They share personal experiences starting medication for their sons around ages 5–6, addressing anxiety, learning difficulties, and behavioral challenges. The episode covers the reality that while only two drugs are FDA-approved for autism (Abilify and Risperidone), over 50 medications across six drug classes are commonly prescribed off-label

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23:39

Cold Hard Truths: What We Would Do (Social Media...

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2025/08/13

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen dive into real social media questions from parents navigating autism challenges. They address sibling aggression, family PTSD, finding affordable help, alternative medicine claims, medical procedures affecting regression, ABA therapy expectations, and holiday modifications. The discussion emphasizes practical solutions over simplistic advice, highlighting the importance of safety, professional support, and realistic expectations while avoiding costly

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19:23

Cold Hard Truths: Virtual Autism

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2025/08/06

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen explore the controversial term "virtual autism," coined by Romanian psychologist Marius Zomfier in 2018 to describe behavioral abnormalities in children aged 0-3 exposed to excessive screen time. The discussion clarifies that virtual autism is not real autism and examines the developmental impacts of early screen exposure. Through social media posts from concerned parents, they address common fears and misconceptions while emphasizing that

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11:43

Cold Hard Truths: Suggestions for RFK Jr.

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2025/07/30

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen address listener feedback on the title of their episode on siblings, clarifying their intention wasn't to pit neurotypical against neurodivergent siblings, but rather show all siblings united against the challenges neurodivergence can bring to family dynamics. They discuss their recent op-ed about RFK Jr.'s autism statements, emphasizing support for productive autism advocacy while rejecting debunked vaccine theories. The conversation covers the need

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53:42

Oh Brother! (And Sister!): Siblings vs. Neurodivergence

Refrigerator Moms ·

2025/07/23

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen welcome their own children, Ethan and Rosalie, to discuss the profound impact of growing up as siblings to neurodivergent family members. The conversation explores "glass child syndrome" - when siblings feel invisible due to the intense focus on a high-needs child. Through candid personal stories, they examine childhood anxiety, PTSD, depression, and the long journey toward healing. The siblings share what worked and what didn't in their upbringing,

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26:50

Blame, Shame, and the Guilt Game

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2025/07/16

The Refrigerator Moms podcast relaunches with this first episode. Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen dive deep into the pervasive issue of mom guilt that plagues autism parents. Drawing from their 20+ year friendship and experience raising autistic children, they debunk the harmful "Refrigerator Mother Theory" while offering practical strategies for managing guilt and prioritizing self-care. The duo shares personal stories, actionable advice, and evidence-based approaches to help parents move

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18:34

S1 E4 Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA): As Easy as ABC

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2025/03/21

In this episode, Julianna and Kelley delve into the world of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), a cornerstone of early intervention for autism. They discuss the history of ABA, its core principles (the ABCs: Antecedent, Behavior, Consequence), and how it differs from bribing. They address common myths and criticisms, including the use of aversives and concerns about intensity. They also offer practical advice for parents, including navigating insurance issues, finding quality therapists, and in...

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22:28

S1 E3 Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA): Autism by...

Refrigerator Moms ·

2025/03/11

Season 1 Episode 3: Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA): Autism by Any Other Name In this episode, we explore Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA), a term describing behavior, primarily occurring in children with autism, who exhibit extreme resistance to everyday demands. We provide a comprehensive overview of PDA, its presentation, diagnosis, and debated etiology. Despite PDA not being an official diagnosis in the U.S. and only a proposed profile in the U.K., its legitimacy is growing withi...

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27:02

S1 E2 Out of Control: Tantrums, Meltdowns, and Panic...

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2025/02/05

A child yelling, shaking, and crying in public is nothing new, yet parents may find themselves struggling to understand whether their child is having a normal tantrum on the grocery store floor, or if their child is having a autistic meltdown or panic attack instead. While all three may present similarly, and all function as communication tools that have turned into outsized reactions, they differ wildly in their purpose. A parent’s job is to understand what the purpose is and how to resolve ...

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27:38

S1E1: Blame, Shame, and the Guilt Game (Full Episode)

Refrigerator Moms ·

2025/01/22

In this episode, we aim to validate mom guilt while helping listeners make decisions without drowning in it. We'll focus on broadcasting access to support for parents of autistic children, defining actionable items, and identifying prioritization tools to help manage overwhelming feelings all through the lens of our own experiences and perspectives. This full episode includes actions and to-dos.#asd #parenting #parentingtips #momlife

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11:31

Blame, Shame, and the Guilt Game

Refrigerator Moms ·

2025/01/13

In this episode, we aim to validate mom guilt while helping listeners make decisions without drowning in it. We'll focus on broadcasting access to support. Defining actionable items and identifying prioritization tools to help manage overwhelming feelings all through the lens of our own experiences and perspectives.

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