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Refrigerator Moms

Kelley Jensen, Julianna Scott

Born from 20 years of friendship, during which they navigated the trenches of autism parenting and advocacy, the Refrigerator Moms is Kelley Jensen and Julianna Scott’s way of reaching out to parents waging the same battles they were. Their purpose with this podcast is to clear the fog, silence the noise, and find a path through neurodivergence for parents that are stuck between bad choices. They tackle parenting topics such as mom guilt, tantrums, pathological demand avoidance, siblings,

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15:43

Cold Hard Truths: Mom Friendships

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2025/11/12

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen explore the complexities of maintaining friendships while raising autistic children. They candidly discuss losing friends who couldn't handle disability, navigating hierarchy within autism mom groups, and dealing with toxic positivity from well-meaning acquaintances. The conversation highlights the importance of finding authentic connections with people who understand your reality without comparison or competition. Through personal stories of both

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16:14

Cold Hard Truths: Chatbots, Suicide, and SAINT

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2025/11/05

Julianna and Kelley explore the alarming rise of AI chatbot usage among teenagers and its dangerous implications for mental health. With 72% of American teens using AI chatbots as companions and 5.2 million seeking mental health support from them, the hosts discuss how these platforms can encourage self-harm, medication refusal, and social isolation. They share practical strategies for parents to recognize warning signs, initiate conversations about AI relationships, and establish healthy

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36:34

Something to See Here: Masking and Autism

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2025/10/29

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen explore autism masking—the conscious or unconscious strategy used by autistic people to appear non-autistic. They clarify common misconceptions, distinguishing masking from behavioral changes and social skills. The discussion covers why people mask, the exhausting nature of constant performance, and the importance of safe spaces to unmask. Through personal examples, they examine workplace dynamics, late versus early diagnosis differences, and the

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23:58

Cold Hard Truths: What Would We Do? Social Media...

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2025/10/22

Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen dive into controversial parenting topics trending on social media, examining posts about unlimited screen time for neurodivergent children, the concept of "hermeneutical injustice" in food aversion disorders, and debates around ODD versus PDA diagnoses. They critically analyze how online echo chambers reinforce potentially harmful parenting practices while discussing the importance of balanced approaches to screen time regulation and the dangers of relying

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17:02

Cold Hard Truths: Acceptance

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2025/10/15

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen explore the concept of "speed to acceptance" when parenting autistic children. Drawing from the five stages of grief, they discuss how quickly moving through denial, anger, bargaining, and depression to reach acceptance can free parents emotionally and help them recognize their child's progress realistically. The hosts share personal stories, including Julianna's pink room painting project, and critique the well-meaning but often unhelpful "Welcome to

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35:06

Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA): As Easy as ABC

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2025/10/08

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen dive into Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), exploring its evolution from Ivar Lovaas's pioneering work to modern practices. They address common myths and criticisms while sharing personal experiences of how ABA transformed their families. From potty training to turn-taking and communication skills, the hosts explain why ABA remains a cornerstone therapy for autistic children, how it's covered by insurance, and practical strategies for finding quality

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31:24

We Watched Trump's Autism Press Conference So You...

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2025/10/01

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen dissect the recent presidential press conference linking Tylenol use during pregnancy to autism. They analyze the hyperbolic claims made versus the more measured official HHS statements, exploring how this continues the harmful pattern of blaming mothers for autism. The hosts examine the actual science behind acetaminophen research, discuss the problematic vaccine misinformation shared, and highlight the concerning gap between political rhetoric and

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25:17

Cold Hard Truths: Four New Subtypes, the Time...

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2025/09/24

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen dive into recent autism research developments and practical family considerations. They examine new findings about four distinct autism subtypes based on genetic markers, review Time magazine's autism supplement with mixed reactions, and share honest insights about service dogs versus family pets for autistic children. The conversation covers everything from the limitations of current treatment coverage in mainstream media to real-world experiences

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49:17

The Try-entific Method: Off-Label Autism Interventions

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2025/09/17

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen tackle the common "diagnose and adios" experience that leaves autism parents without guidance after diagnosis. They discuss how parents must become researchers themselves, using what they call "The Try-entific Method" to navigate off-label treatments. The hosts share personal experiences with brain stimulation therapies like MeRT and EMDR, provide practical financial advice including ABLE accounts, and emphasize that there is no cure for autism—only

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19:02

Cold Hard Truths: Panic Attacks, Non-Violent...

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2025/09/17

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen dive deep into mom panic attacks—a reality many autism parents face but rarely discuss. They explore how fear of the unknown can manifest into physical symptoms and share personal experiences with managing panic attacks through professional help. The conversation then shifts to nonviolent communication (NVC), a powerful framework for understanding feelings that drive behavior, particularly valuable for autism parenting. Finally, they celebrate the

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20:44

Cold Hard Truths: FAFO and What Would We Do? Social...

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2025/09/10

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen dive into viral social media posts about autism parenting in this Cold Hard Truths episode. They examine FAFO (F*** Around and Find Out) parenting as a trendy rebrand of natural consequences, analyze complex PDA parenting scenarios including pancake requests and fast food battles, critique Autism Speaks' new legislation proposal, celebrate potty training victories, and discuss the importance of proper diagnosis. The duo provides practical perspectives

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40:45

Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA): Autism by Any...

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2025/09/10

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen tackle the hot topic of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA), exploring why it's not a separate condition but rather a feature of autism. They examine how social media influencers are repackaging traditional behavioral interventions under new names, share practical strategies for picking battles with resistant children, and provide actionable guidance for parents navigating PDA behaviors. The discussion emphasizes evidence-based approaches while

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20:00

Cold Hard Truths: Gene Site Testing, Parenting...

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2025/09/03

Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen tackle essential parenting decisions with practical wisdom. They address medication timing concerns, explore the benefits of gene site testing for personalized treatment approaches, and distinguish between parenting instinct versus developed parenting skills. The hosts celebrate autistic joy through recent research findings, sharing personal stories about their children's special interests from lawnmowers to cake decorating. They provide a systematic

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35:47

Out of Control: Tantrums, Meltdowns, and Panic Attacks

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2025/09/03

This week Julianna and Kelley break down the critical differences between tantrums, meltdowns, and panic attacks—three big emotional experiences that are often confused on social media. A tantrum communicates "I want it, but I can't have it," a meltdown says "it's all too much, and I can't handle it," and a panic attack means "I'm scared, and I don't know what to do." Understanding these distinctions helps parents respond appropriately with different de-escalation techniques. The hosts

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20:00

Cold Hard Truths: Gene Site Testing, Parenting...

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2025/08/27

Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen tackle essential parenting decisions with practical wisdom. They address medication timing concerns, explore the benefits of gene site testing for personalized treatment approaches, and distinguish between parenting instinct versus developed parenting skills. The hosts celebrate autistic joy through recent research findings, sharing personal stories about their children's special interests from lawnmowers to cake decorating. They provide a systematic

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36:48

A Tough Pill to Swallow: Medicating Autism

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2025/08/20

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen tackle the challenging topic of medicating autistic children in "A Tough Pill to Swallow: Medicating Autism." They share personal experiences starting medication for their sons around ages 5–6, addressing anxiety, learning difficulties, and behavioral challenges. The episode covers the reality that while only two drugs are FDA-approved for autism (Abilify and Risperidone), over 50 medications across six drug classes are commonly prescribed off-label

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23:39

Cold Hard Truths: What We Would Do (Social Media...

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2025/08/13

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen dive into real social media questions from parents navigating autism challenges. They address sibling aggression, family PTSD, finding affordable help, alternative medicine claims, medical procedures affecting regression, ABA therapy expectations, and holiday modifications. The discussion emphasizes practical solutions over simplistic advice, highlighting the importance of safety, professional support, and realistic expectations while avoiding costly

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Cold Hard Truths: Virtual Autism

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2025/08/06

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen explore the controversial term "virtual autism," coined by Romanian psychologist Marius Zomfier in 2018 to describe behavioral abnormalities in children aged 0-3 exposed to excessive screen time. The discussion clarifies that virtual autism is not real autism and examines the developmental impacts of early screen exposure. Through social media posts from concerned parents, they address common fears and misconceptions while emphasizing that

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11:43

Cold Hard Truths: Suggestions for RFK Jr.

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2025/07/30

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen address listener feedback on the title of their episode on siblings, clarifying their intention wasn't to pit neurotypical against neurodivergent siblings, but rather show all siblings united against the challenges neurodivergence can bring to family dynamics. They discuss their recent op-ed about RFK Jr.'s autism statements, emphasizing support for productive autism advocacy while rejecting debunked vaccine theories. The conversation covers the need

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53:42

Oh Brother! (And Sister!): Siblings vs. Neurodivergence

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2025/07/23

Hosts Julianna Scott and Kelley Jensen welcome their own children, Ethan and Rosalie, to discuss the profound impact of growing up as siblings to neurodivergent family members. The conversation explores "glass child syndrome" - when siblings feel invisible due to the intense focus on a high-needs child. Through candid personal stories, they examine childhood anxiety, PTSD, depression, and the long journey toward healing. The siblings share what worked and what didn't in their upbringing,

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