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Say Grace

A soulful exploration of the hospitality industry through the eyes of celebrated restaurateur and author Steve Palmer. Combining the richness of grace—a pre-meal tradition in the South, a gift freely given, and a timeless virtue—with the transformative journey of hospitality, this podcast dives deep into the stories behind the industry. With heartfelt conversations, Palmer uncovers personal journeys of resilience, mental health breakthroughs, and sources of inspiration, showcasing how lives are

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EP 15: A Conversation with Randy Garutti

Say Grace ·

2025/07/24

Randy Garutti is a legendary figure in the restaurant industry, best known for his role as the CEO who transformed Shake Shack from a single hot dog cart in Madison Square Park into a globally recognized fast-casual brand. Under his leadership, the company expanded to more than 500 locations across the world, went public in 2015, and became known not just for its burgers but for its commitment to quality, community, and a hospitality-driven culture. In this episode, Randy sits down with Steve to

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01:08:34

EP 14: A Conversation with Martha Hoover of Won't...

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2025/07/17

Martha Hoover is a pioneering American restaurateur and social entrepreneur, best known for founding Won't Stop Hospitality, a collection of acclaimed restaurant concepts in Indianapolis focused on sustainable, community-driven dining. In 1989, after a career as a sex crimes prosecutor and with no formal culinary training, Martha opened Café Patachou, introducing a new standard of farm-to-table food and hospitality in the Midwest. Today, she continues to shape the industry by advocating for ethical

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01:01:03

EP 13: A Conversation with Stephanie Wu,...

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2025/07/10

Stephanie is the editor-in-chief of Eater, a role she’s held since 2022. She leads editorial strategy across more than 20 cities, overseeing writers, editors, and creators. In 2024, she added Punch and Thrillist to her portfolio. Under her leadership, the Eater network has earned 12 James Beard Awards, three National Magazine Awards, and five New York Emmys. Named Adweek’s Editor of the Year in 2024, Stephanie also co-founded Mochi Magazine. Originally from Taipei, Taiwan, she now lives in New York

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01:00:14

EP 12: A Conversation with Smith Hanes of Smith Hanes...

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2025/06/26

Smith Hanes is the founder and creative director of Smith Hanes Studio, an interior design firm he founded in 2004. Based in Atlanta with a second studio in New York, the firm is best known for its work in designing restaurants, boutique hotels, and hospitality spaces with a strong sense of mood and place. Hanes has created some of the South’s most iconic restaurants, building a reputation for warm, layered environments where design plays a key role in the guest experience. He has also worked

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01:12:39

EP 11: A Conversation with Tracy Malechek-Ezekiel and...

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2025/06/19

Tracy Malechek-Ezekiel and Arjav Ezekiel are the husband-and-wife team behind Birdie’s, the nationally acclaimed East Austin restaurant known for its fine-dining-caliber food, counter-service format, and values-driven approach. Tracy is a James Beard finalist with a résumé that includes Blue Hill and Gramercy Tavern, known for her deeply seasonal, ingredient-driven cooking. Arjav, named Esquire’s “Wine Guru of the Year” and recently awarded the Outstanding Professional in Beverage Service at the

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01:03:37

EP 10: A Conversation with Neal Bodenheimer of Cure...

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2025/06/05

Neal Bodenheimer is the Managing Partner of CureCo., the group behind New Orleans’ acclaimed bars Cure, Cane & Table, and VALS, and is a partner in Washington D.C.’s legendary restaurant, Dauphine’s. He also oversees beverage operations at Peychaud’s and serves as Co-Chair of the Board of Directors for Tales of the Cocktail Foundation. A New Orleans native and pioneer of the city’s craft cocktail scene, Cure has received a James Beard Award, Pinnacle Guide recognition, and was named “Best Bar in the

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EP 9: A Conversation with Danny Meyer of Union Square...

Say Grace ·

2025/05/22

Danny Meyer is one of the most influential voices in modern hospitality. As the founder of Union Square Hospitality Group, he’s built some of New York’s most iconic restaurants—including Union Square Cafe and Gramercy Tavern—and turned Shake Shack from a hot dog cart into a $3 billion global phenomenon. A leader who pioneered the philosophy of “Enlightened Hospitality,” Meyer has reshaped the way we think about service, culture, and leadership in business. Over the course of his career, he’s been

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01:09:04

EP 8: A Conversation with Chris Shepherd and Lindsey...

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2025/05/08

Based in Houston, Texas, Chris Shepherd and Lindsey Brown are the Co-Founders and husband-and-wife team behind Southern Smoke Foundation, a non-profit organization that provides emergency relief funding, mental health services, and other resources for food and beverage industry workers in need of support. Before taking on a full-time role with Southern Smoke Foundation in 2023, Lindsey looked after the public relations for Greater Houston Convention and Visitors Bureau before opening her own firm

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EP 7: A Conversation with Lawrence Weeks of North of...

Say Grace ·

2025/04/24

Chef and restaurateur Lawrence Weeks channels Southern tradition, global influence, and personal heritage into his Louisville-based restaurants, North of Bourbon and Ensō. A Louisville native, Weeks was drawn to the kitchen at an early age, inspired by his parents’ international travels and his family’s Creole and Cajun roots. In 2021, he opened North of Bourbon, a restaurant that explores the intersection of Kentucky bourbon culture and the bold, soulful flavors of the American South. Building on

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01:07:46

EP 6: A Conversation with André Natera of Chef’s PSA

Say Grace ·

2025/04/10

Based in Austin, TX, André Natera is a best-selling author, public speaker, and host of Chef’s PSA, one of the top-ranked chef podcasts globally. With 27 years of experience as a professional chef, André now dedicates his work to mentoring the next generation of culinary leaders and sharing unfiltered insights through his books, online courses, and podcast. Known for his honest and impactful style, André blends real-world kitchen wisdom with practical advice for cooks and chefs at every level. In

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EP 5: A Conversation with Vivian Howard

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2025/03/27

Celebrated chef, cookbook author, television personality, and restaurateur Vivian Howard’s culinary expertise stretches across multiple mediums while remaining deeply rooted in her Southern upbringing. An author of two cookbooks, her first, Deep Run Roots: Stories & Recipes from My Corner of the South, is a New York Times-bestseller and was named “Cookbook of the Year” by International Association of Culinary Professionals. Vivian is also the creator and host of public television shows Somewhere

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EP 4: A Conversation with Kevin Boehm of Boka...

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2025/03/13

Co-CEO and Co-Founder of Chicago-based Boka Restaurant Group Kevin Boehm has established himself as one of the world’s foremost hospitality visionaries. Alongside partner Rob Katz, Kevin has opened 40 restaurants over the last  30 years and built a restaurant group based on great chefs, inspired design, and enlightened hospitality. Under his leadership, the group has earned 18 James Beard Foundation Award nominations, two Food & Wine Best New Chefs, 13 consecutive MICHELIN Guide stars for Boka, and

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01:05:16

EP 3: A Conversation on Hospitality With Longtime...

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2025/02/27

Longtime teammates of the Indigo Road Hospitality Group (IRHG) Jeremiah Bacon, Kimball Brienza, Jennifer Dailey, and Vonda Freeman have played a big part IRHG’s growth within their 15 years of working under IRHG. From leading the beverage program and culinary directions, to growing one concept to multiple locations, to looking after the financial health of the business, each individual has played an important role and brings a unique hospitality philosophy to the company. In this episode, these

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EP 2: A Conversation with Mickey Bakst of Ben’s Friends

Say Grace ·

2025/02/13

Maître D, foodie, fundraiser, philanthropist, career restaurateur, mentor, and Charleston ambassador – these are just a few titles bestowed upon Mickey Bakst. After nearly 50 years of working in the hospitality industry, Mickey co-founded Ben’s Friends, a support group for members of the food and beverage industry battling substance abuse and addiction, alongside Steve Palmer. The mission of Ben’s Friends is to offer hope, fellowship, and a path forward to anyone who struggles with substance abuse

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01:00:20

EP 1: A Conversation with Mike Lata of FIG Charleston

Say Grace ·

2025/01/30

Mike Lata, chef and co-owner of Charleston’s FIG and The Ordinary in Charleston, SC, is a James Beard Award-winning chef celebrated for his dedication to local flavors and culinary practices that pay respect to the efforts and traditions of his family of purveyors and the Lowcountry. Mike’s food, philosophy, and contributions to the Charleston community have earned him recognition on a national platform, including coverage in The Wall Street Journal, Food & Wine, Bon Appétit, Esquire, Garden & Gun,

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