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Dance Real Podcast

Welcome to Dance Real;a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the dance industry to explore what really goes on behind the scenes. I’m your host, Kate Histon, former dancer, teacher and studio owner to now mindset and leadership coach as well as international adjudicator. I am someone who’s lived through the pressure, perfectionism, and unspoken harm that too often defines the dance world. This podcast is for dancers, teachers, and parents who are ready to hear honest conversations about everything

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06:49

Energy Vampires, Credit Thieves & Silent Saboteurs

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/07/28

Season Two Ep:15 In this episode of The Dance Real Podcast, Kate unpacks the often-hidden emotional dynamics that dancers, teachers, and leaders navigate in high-pressure environments—including covert competition, credit theft, love bombing, and silent sabotage. Drawing from lived experience not only as a dancer, teacher, studio owner, and adjudicator (as well as her professional training in Human Behaviour)—but also as someone who grew up around emotionally complex dynamics—Kate offers a blend of

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56:48

Finding Your Voice - Exploring Identity, Power, and...

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2025/07/21

Season Two Ep: 11Finding Your Voice - Exploring Identity, Power, and Pedagogy with Dr Kathrina Farrugia-Kriel In this episode of the Dance Real Podcast, Dr. Kathrina Farrugia-Kriel shares her extensive journey in dance scholarship, exploring the cultural influences that shaped her education and career. She discusses the transformative power of dance education, the importance of finding one's voice, and the role of empathy in teaching. Kathrina emphasizes the need for curiosity and evolution in the

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05:49

Improvisation in the Art of Life - Dance Real Reflection

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/07/13

Season Two Ep: 10Improvisation in the Art of Life - Dance Real Reflection In this episode of the Dance Real Podcast, Kate explores the concept of improvisation not just in dance but as a vital life practice. She emphasizes the importance of curiosity over judgment, the need for spaciousness in our actions, and the detrimental effects of harsh self-judgment. Kate encourages listeners to embrace improvisation as a mindset that allows for exploration, growth, and self-kindness, ultimately viewing

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57:36

Dance Training Broken? Improvisation Might be the Answer

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2025/07/07

Season Two Ep: 09 Dance is Broken? Improvisation Might be the Fix In this rich and heartfelt conversation, Kate Histon reconnects with longtime friend and fellow dance educator Jen Murray to reflect on their shared roots in Byron Bay and the evolving landscape of dance education. Together, they explore Jen’s journey through contemporary dance, her deep belief in the power of improvisation, and the essential role it plays in unlocking creativity and confidence—especially for classical ballet dancers

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06:51

Master Dancer Mindset - Integrating the Mind, Body...

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2025/06/30

Season TwoEpisode:08 Dance Real Reflection "Integrating the Mind, Body and Soul" In this episode of the Dance Real Podcast, Kate Histon dives deep into what it truly means to develop a Master Dancer Mindset—one that unites the mind, body, and soul. Far beyond steps and technique, Kate challenges traditional training norms and reveals how intuition, presence, and emotional intelligence are often the missing links in performance and artistry. She explores how these inner tools can elevate not only a

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56:43

Intuition in Dance with Allison Pagano

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/06/23

Season TwoEpisode: 07 ‘The Power of Intuition in Dance' with Professor Allison Pagano In this enlightening conversation, Kate Histon speaks with Alison Pagano, a former dance professor and creator of Embodied Dance. They explore the profound connection between intuition, mental health, and the dance industry. Alison shares her personal journey of healing through dance, the importance of self-acceptance, and how embodied practices can transform both dancers and their art. The discussion emphasizes

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How I Approached Dance Competitions as a Studio Owner

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2025/06/16

Season Two Episode: 06 Dance Real Reflections : How I Approached Dance Competitions as A Dance Studio Owner In this episode of the Dance Real Podcast, Kate Histon discusses the complexities of dance competitions, emphasizing the importance of managing competition culture within studios, the role of parents, and the significance of feedback in judging. She shares her experiences and insights on creating a supportive environment for dancers, the value of personal development, and the need for

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55:46

Beyond the Trophy with Chasta Hamilton

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2025/06/09

Season TwoEp:05 Beyond the Trophy; It’s a must-listen for educators, parents, judges, and dancers who care deeply about growth, values, and creating lasting impact through dance. In this inspiring and expansive conversation, Dance Real host Kate Histon is joined by industry thought leader and author Chasta Hamilton, who shares her journey from high-stakes competition culture to building a more holistic, heart-led approach to dance education. Chasta, known for her acclaimed book Trash the Trophies,

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Dance Real Reflections: Beyond Technique, Dancing...

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/06/02

Season Two Ep:04 For the Ballerina Who Wants More Than Perfect Lines… 🩰✨ Isadora Duncan’s Philosopher’s Stone wasn’t a rejection of dance—it was a call to reconnect with its soul. She believed true artistry comes when movement flows from within, not just from mastering form. For the career-focused ballerina: 🌿 Let ballet be your language, but speak with your soul 🌿 Feel before you perform — technique is the vessel, not the source 🌿 Move from emotion, not expectation 🌿 Dare to be real, not just

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59:05

That's Not OK! Consent in Dance

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2025/05/26

Season TwoEp: 03 "That's Not OK!" Consent in Dance In this podcast episode, Kate Histon interviews Cindy Ambridge about the importance of consent and boundaries in dance education. They discuss the evolving understanding of consent, the significance of communication, and the need for a collaborative approach in teaching. The conversation also touches on the impact of trauma on students and the importance of creating a safe and respectful environment in dance studios. In this conversation, Kate

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06:57

Dance Real Reflections: The First Time I was Hit in...

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2025/05/19

Season TwoEp: 02 "The First Time I was Hit in Dance" *Content Warning: This episode contains sensitive content about a childhood experience of being hit in a ballet class. Listener discretion is advised. In this solo mini episode, Kate Histon shares a deeply personal story: the first time she was hit by a ballet teacher at just six years old. More than a reflection on one moment, this episode explores how toxic cultures in the dance world can take root—and why so many dancers and families stay

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The Dance Journey of Marie Walton-Mahon

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2025/05/13

Season TwoEp: 01 In this enlightening conversation, dance educator Marie Walton-Mahon shares her inspiring journey from a young dancer to a global mentor in the dance community. With over 50 years of experience, Marie discusses her early influences, the challenges she faced in her training, and the importance of creating a supportive environment for dancers. She highlights the development of Progressing Ballet Technique, a revolutionary body conditioning program, and addresses the impact of social

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55:43

"I Never Won A Competition" - Game changer, Shane...

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2025/03/25

Episode 8: Rethinking the Dance Industry with Shane Wuerthner In this thought-provoking episode, Shane Wuerthner shares game-changing insights that challenge conventional perspectives in the dance world. From perfectionism and competition culture to body composition and beyond, Shane delves into key issues shaping the industry today. Through the lens of his own journey—from professional ballet dancer to coach and founder of Athletistry—he offers invaluable lessons that will leave you both educated

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31:55

I was Told I Couldn’t Dance Again - Charline Dujardin

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2025/03/18

Charline DujardinEp:07 “I was Told I Couldn’t Dance Again” In this conversation, former professional soloist ballet dancer Charlene Dujardin shares her inspiring journey from overcoming a life-altering injury to becoming a dance teacher and studio owner. She discusses the challenges she faced in her career, the importance of self-belief, and her vision for nurturing future dancers. Charline emphasizes the significance of focusing on personal growth and the love for dance, rather than comparing

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34:47

My Drive Comes From Within - Amelie Pollock

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2025/03/11

Ep: 06 “My Drive comes from Within” the journey of Amelie Pollock from student to Professional Dancer. In this podcast episode, Amelie Pollock shares her inspiring journey from a young dancer in Byron Bay to a professional jazz dancer now living in London. She discusses the importance of family support, the challenges of transitioning to full-time dance training, and her experiences in the competitive dance industry. Amelie reflects on her first professional job, the impact of moving to London, and

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43:10

Breaking the Cycle - Supporting young Dancers without...

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2025/03/04

Ep: 05 - "Breaking the Cycle" - Supporting young Dancers without Passing on Our Wounds" In this enlightening conversation, Kaz Amos, a psychologist, discusses the mental health challenges faced by young dancers and the crucial role parents and teachers play in supporting them. The dialogue explores the developmental stages of children, the importance of emotional support, and the impact of toxic environments in dance schools. Kaz emphasizes the need for compassion over control in parenting and the

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39:09

Don't Try to be Perfect - Katherina Markowskaja

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2025/02/25

Ep:05 "Don't Try to be Perfect" In this conversation, Katherina Makowskaja, a former principal ballerina, shares her journey from childhood in a dance family to becoming a renowned dancer and now a teacher. She discusses her early training in Ukraine, the challenges of competition, and the pressures of performing in a ballet company. Katherina reflects on her transition from dancing to teaching, emphasizing the importance of self-reflection and understanding in education. She offers valuable

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43:02

Unstoppable - From Moulin Rouge to Busy Bird

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2025/02/18

Ep: 03 "Unstoppable" In this episode Janelle McPherson shares her inspiring journey from being an ex-professional dancer at the Moulin Rouge and across Europe including the “It Girls” to navigating life after dance. She discusses her early dance experiences, the rigorous training and performances at the Moulin Rouge, and the emotional challenges of transitioning to a new career. Janelle emphasizes the importance of self-discovery, resilience, and the skills learned through dance that have helped her

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46:13

You Can't Judge Talent

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/02/11

Ep: 02 - "You Can't Judge talent" Ever want to know how a Dance Judge adjudicates a competition? In this conversation, Rachel Jackson (International Dance Judge & Examiner) shares how! As well as her extensive experience in the dance world, discussing her journey from dancer to teacher and examiner. She emphasizes the importance of self-care for educators, the challenges faced in dance education, and the evolving landscape of dance training. Rachel also delves into the role of competitions, the

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44:07

We Need to Have Hard Conversations

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/02/04

Ep: 1 - We Need to Have difficult Conversations :In this engaging episode host Kate with former professional ballet dancers and founders of Lunar The Brand, Daniel Gaudiello and Gabriel Rogers discuss the intricate relationship between mental health and the world of dance. Daniel and Gabriel explore their personal journeys into dance, the challenges faced by male dancers, and the importance of fostering a supportive environment for young dancers. The conversation delves into the evolving dynamics

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