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Dance Real Podcast

Welcome to Dance Real;a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the dance industry to explore what really goes on behind the scenes. I’m your host, Kate Histon, former dancer, teacher and studio owner to now mindset and leadership coach as well as international adjudicator. I am someone who’s lived through the pressure, perfectionism, and unspoken harm that too often defines the dance world. This podcast is for dancers, teachers, and parents who are ready to hear honest conversations about everything

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14:39

Effective Dance Studio Leadership: Communication,...

Dance Real Podcast ·

2026/02/15

Season 4: Ep: 03Effective leadership in a dance studio requires more than management skills. It requires emotional intelligence, clear communication, strong boundaries, and systems that support psychological safety. In this solo episode of Dance Real, Kate reflects on over 23 years as a dance studio owner and leader. She explores what effective dance studio leadership actually looks like in practice, including how leaders influence emotional climate, manage conflict, create safety through systems,

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33:00

The Making of UNBOUND - Ballet abused them and now...

Dance Real Podcast ·

2026/02/08

Season 4 Ep:02 In this episode of the Dance Real Podcast, Kate Histon speaks with Co-Founder of Otoxia Productions John English, who co-director of Unbound, a powerful film following a group of professional ballet dancers who are also survivors of abuse within the ballet system. Unbound documents the formation of Ballet de Barcelona, a radical new company created by dancers who chose to walk away from toxic institutions and rebuild ballet on their own terms. Led by a gender-fluid director and

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46:17

The Dance Journey of Adam Scown

Dance Real Podcast ·

2026/02/01

Season 4 Ep:01 The Dance Journey of Adam Scown Choreographer, Educator & International Dance Adjudicator In this episode of the Dance Real Podcast, Kate Histon sits down with Adam Scown for an open, reflective conversation about building a sustainable career in dance across countries, cultures, and career stages. Adam shares his journey from training and working in Australia to establishing himself in the UK, offering insight into the realities of international dance careers, shifting industry

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1:11

Season 4 Commences Monday 2nd February!

Dance Real Podcast ·

2026/01/27

After a year of recording The Dance Real Podcast, this new introduction felt necessary. When I began, I knew what I wanted to question. Over time, I became clearer about what I was here to build: a space that honours high-level training while holding equal regard for wellbeing, agency, and relational integrity. A space where dancers, educators, and parents can reflect together on culture, leadership, the long-term impact of how we train, mindset for dancers, as well as inspirational journey's of

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10:03

Forget New Year Resolutions! Dancers and Leaders Try...

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/12/29

Happy New Year! As we enter 2026, many people begin the year with resolutions. Kate opens this episode with a different view. She does not subscribe to New Year’s resolutions because they imply something about the self needs fixing. She does believe in goals. Goals offer direction, structure and growth without the self-judgement that resolutions often carry. This episode explores the psychology of setting meaningful goals for dancers, teachers, studio owners and parents. Kate reflects on how the way

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12:45

A Guided Meditation for Reset and Renewal

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/12/22

A Guided Meditation for Reset and RenewalThis short guided practice is offered as a gift to listeners during the holiday season. It creates a quiet space to settle the body, steady the breath, and reconnect with a sense of inner clarity. The meditation supports gentle release and thoughtful renewal, inviting a calmer orientation as the year comes to a close. Across the twelve minutes, you are guided toward awareness, softening, and presence. The intention is to provide a moment of stillness for

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2:54

That's A Wrap on Season 3

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/12/14

www.katehiston.com - Join the Newsletter for more info. Season three has come to a close, and I want to acknowledge what this season represented. The theme was paving a new way. Each conversation, each solo reflection, and each story contributed to a wider shift in how we understand training, leadership, and care within the dance world. This season also marked a personal transition for me. I began The Dance Real Podcast while living in Germany. I recorded episodes between teaching commitments,

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57:56

Creating Child-Safe Dance Studios with Dance Arts...

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/12/07

Season 3Ep:12 In this episode of The Dance Real Podcast, Kate speaks with Melanie Gard, co-founding member, chair and spokesperson of Dance Arts Alliance (DAA) and director of Peninsula School of Dance. Together, they explore what genuine child safety looks like in dance studios today, how Dance Arts Alliance is leading national advocacy for industry standards, and why safeguarding is about more than just policies, it is about culture, communication, and leadership. Melanie shares her journey from

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12:37

How to Spot and Stop Bullying in Your Dance Studio

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2025/11/30

How to Stop Bullying in the Dance StudioDescription Bullying in dance studios rarely looks dramatic. It often grows through small exclusions, subtle alliances, and unspoken hierarchies that shape the emotional climate of a group. In this episode, Kate explores how bullying develops in dance settings, why it takes hold so easily in high-pressure environments, and what leaders can do to disrupt the patterns early. This conversation examines group dynamics, power structures, and the conditions that

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43:57

Georgina Pazcoguin: The Rogue Ballerina Breaking...

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/11/24

In this episode, Kate Histon is joined by Georgina Pazcoguin, soloist, author, and advocate for change in the performing arts. Known as The Rogue Ballerina, Georgina made history as the first Asian American woman to be promoted out of the corps de ballet at New York City Ballet. Her memoir Swan Dive: The Making of a Rogue Ballerina offers an honest and often humorous look into the world of elite ballet, revealing the grit, isolation, and courage behind the glamour.Georgina speaks about her

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43:01

What Shapes a Dancers Mindset with Terry Hyde MA MBACP

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/11/17

Season 3 Ep: 09 In this episode, Kate speaks with Terry Hyde MA MBACP, a former professional dancer with The Royal Ballet and English National Ballet who later retrained as a psychotherapist. Terry is the founder of Counselling for Dancers and STEPPS Charity, a UK-based organisation dedicated to supporting the mental health and wellbeing of dancers and performing artists. Together, they explore how perfectionism, fear, and cultural conditioning shape a dancer’s mindset from early training through

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9:33

Resilience vs Suppressions - What Dancers really Need

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2025/11/09

Season 3Ep:08 Resilience is one of the most used words in the dance world, yet it is often misunderstood. Many dancers think it means pushing through pain, hiding disappointment, or toughening up so no one can see them crack. In truth, that is suppression, not resilience. In this episode, Kate explores the real meaning of resilience: the ability to feel emotions fully, process them, and move forward with balance and adaptability. She unpacks why emotional processing is the foundation of true

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41:56

How Dance is Judged - with Lisa Maloney Australian...

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/11/03

Season 3 Ep:07 Australian Dance Adjudicators President Lisa Maloney joins Kate Histon to unpack what high-quality judging looks like in practice: core competencies, the balance of technique and stagecraft, and how clear feedback helps dancers and teachers improve. Lisa explains how adjudicators calibrate consistency across sections using the first performance as an anchor; how to structure voice or written critiques so competitors leave with one or two applicable notes; and how to address age

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47:34

Human-Centred Ballet training with Austin Crumley...

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/10/27

Season 3Ep:06 In this inspirational episode, Kate Histon sits down with Austin Crumley, The Ballet Educator, to discuss what human-centred ballet looks like inside a working dance studio. The conversation focuses on leadership in the room: steady pacing that protects attention; brief readiness check-ins; clear boundaries that keep learning safe; feedback that is specific and proportionate; and closing rituals that help dancers integrate the work. They discuss why teachers should avoid teaching from

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11:27

Perfectionism & The Pre-Professional Dancer

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/10/20

Season 3Ep:05 In this solo episode of Dance Real Podcast, Kate explores perfectionism in the lives of pre-professional dancers. While perfectionism can sharpen detail and raise standards, it can also drain confidence, increase anxiety, and diminish joy. Kate unpacks how perfectionism shows up in daily habits, inner self-talk, and relationships with teachers and parents. She offers practical strategies that both teachers and parents can use to support dancers in balancing excellence with

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46:57

Illuminating Mental Wellness in Dance

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/10/13

Season 3Ep:04 Illuminating Mental Wellness in Dance Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussion of mental health challenges such as perfectionism, anxiety, body image, and eating disorders. Listener discretion is advised. If you are affected by these topics, please reach out for professional support or visit local mental health resources in your area. In this episode of Dance Real Podcast, Kate speaks with the founders of the Ilumn Collective: Kari Brunson Wright, Josh Spell, and Rachel

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46:16

The Mother Daughter Bond - Behind Ballet Dreams

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/10/06

In this episode of the Dance Real Podcast, I sit down with mother–daughter duo Kate and Kyra Martinov to explore the shared journey of teaching, parenting, and dancing together. Kate reflects on her own path from small-town beginnings to performing overseas and eventually founding Bay Dance Academy in Nelson Bay. She shares the joys and challenges of teaching her daughter within a family-run studio while balancing the transitions of career and family life. Kyra, now in the Queensland Ballet’s

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9:59

Trauma Aware Teaching in Dance

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/09/29

Season Three:Ep:02 In this solo episode, Kate explores trauma-aware teaching in the dance studio through a clear, practical lens: how the nervous system adapts under sustained pressure; why safety and rigour must be held together; and what this looks like in daily practice. She defines trauma awareness for studio settings, distinguishes it from therapy, and offers concrete habits that protect dignity and sustain excellence: specific correction without humiliation; pacing that reads signs of

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51:05

The Dance Journey of Josef Brown: Curiosity, Craft,...

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/09/22

Season Three Ep: 01 Opens with artist, advocate and thought leader Josef Brown: former Soloist with The Australian Ballet; principal performer with Sydney Dance Company; featured artist with Modern Dance Turkey in Ankara. His range spans ballet and contemporary stages, musical theatre, film, and television, including roles in Dance Academy, Spartacus, and Neighbours. He now channels that breadth into creative work and sector advocacy, and he leads The Library Aesthetic, a curated hub for credible

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4:13

That's a Wrap on Season Two

Dance Real Podcast ·

2025/09/01

Episode SummaryIn this short solo episode, Kate reflects on the journey of Season 2 of The Dance Real Podcast—a season filled with bold conversations, personal stories, expert insights, and unapologetic truths about the dance world. From examining competition culture and coercive power dynamics to unpacking pedagogical frameworks, parenting roles, emotional safety, and embodied creativity, Season 2 has taken us on a deeply human ride through the layers of dance training and artistic

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