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Renegade Marketers Unite

Renegade Marketers Unite focuses on marketing innovators, uncovering the how, what and why behind their on-going success. Award-winning marketer, author, and entrepreneur Drew Neisser keeps these conversations interesting and inspiring, wrapping up each episode with on-the-spot analysis and insights for big marketers and those that want to be. For more information visit http://DrewNeisser.com/podcast

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17:02

480: GenAI Marketing MacGyvers

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/09/30

If you think AI is about flashy tools or abstract futures, think again. In this solo Huddles Quick Take, CMO Huddles founder Drew Neisser shares a pragmatic look at how B2B marketing leaders are actually using GenAI to drive results today—and what still gets in the way. From nurturing “vibe coders” to prompt libraries to CFO briefings, Drew maps out four essential areas where GenAI is already reshaping the work of modern CMOs. Plus, he offers a sharp reminder: If you're not leading the charge,

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51:51

479: Leading Beyond Marketing: The CMO+

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/09/26

CMO tenure is a hot topic. Everyone wants to know the secret to staying power.   One proven path is stepping out of the narrow marketing lane and showing up as more than the title suggests. Call it CMO+. The challenge is figuring out what your “plus” will be and how to put it into practice. To help you understand what CMO+ looks like in action, Nikhil Chawla (Resilience), Isabelle Papoulias (EliteOps), and Ali McCarthy (Amplify Your Voice Studio) share their own pluses, how they discovered

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48:12

478: Marketing in the CEO’s Language

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/09/19

Every CMO wants alignment with their CEO. But all too frequently, things go sideways. It turns into chasing growth at any cost, drowning in acronyms, or scrambling to justify marketing’s seat at the revenue table. What if the real secret isn’t louder advocacy, but clearer translation, seeing the world the way your CEO does? That’s the perspective Rohini Kasturi brings as CEO of HG Insights. Fresh off two bold acquisitions in just a few months, HG Insights is redefining revenue growth

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53:56

477: Retention as Your Revenue Engine

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/09/12

Putting the customer at the center has been preached for years, yet too often, B2B marketers are told to chase net new logos and leave expansion for someone else. That approach leaves growth on the table. Delighted customers are your advocates, your storytellers, your engine for long-term success. Every company says it listens to customers. In this conversation, Drew and guests Allyson Havener (HG Insights), JD Dillon (Tigo Energy), and Alan Gonsenhauser (Demand Revenue) show how listening turns

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33:11

476: GenAI Isn’t a Toy—It’s a Culture Shift

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/09/09

Adopting AI isn’t about tools. It’s about trust, training, and transformation. And yes, about CMO’s getting their hands on the keyboard. In this Huddles Quick Take, GenAI consultants Tahnee Perry and Liza Adams break down the most common mistakes CMOs make when rolling out GenAI—from skipping change management to misunderstanding what “hands-on” really means for leaders. They also share practical use cases (like reducing a six-week video workflow to two) and explain why a great AI strategy

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52:09

475: Customer Centricity: The Art of Picking Favorites

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/09/05

Most marketers still treat all customers like they’re created equal. Spoiler: they’re not. Some will buy once and vanish, others will stick with you for years and fuel your growth. The challenge and opportunity is learning to tell the difference, predicting their future value, and acting accordingly. That’s where Wharton professor and The Customer Centricity Playbook co-author Peter Fader comes in. He shows why real growth starts with admitting that not every customer is equally valuable,

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49:46

474: Go for Launch: How CMOs Drive Market-Ready Products

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/08/29

Every product launch is a countdown to liftoff. High stakes. High visibility. High chance of failure if systems aren’t in sync. Misaligned messaging, unready sellers, vaporware promises. There are endless ways to completely blow it. In this episode, Melanie Marcus (Surescripts), Kevin Brooks (Surescripts), and John Hale (Consilio) join Drew to dig into what it takes to pull off a successful launch. They explain why alignment cannot be assumed, how preparation has to be disciplined and ongoing,

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35:48

473: Data Sync or Sink: How Does Your Tech Stack,...

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/08/26

Think your tech stack is working for you? Think again. After analyzing 100 stacks from the CMO Huddles community, Ryan Koonce of Growth Bench exposes what’s broken, what’s bloated, and what to do instead. From misfiring attribution models to misused tools like Google Analytics and Salesforce, this episode offers a fast, practical reset for any CMO serious about smarter growth. What You’ll Learn: Why Salesforce isn’t always the answer The fatal flaw in Google Analytics you can’t

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51:43

472: AI’s Impact on B2B Marketing Strategy

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/08/22

There is no pause button on AI. Every day brings a fresh flood of tools, demos, predictions, and pressure to keep up. But what’s actually changing inside B2B marketing departments? What’s working, what’s still hype, and where should CMOs focus? In this episode, Kevin Ruane (Precisely), Gary Sevounts (Simpplr), and Jeff Morgan (Elements) join Drew to wrestle with how AI is being tested, contained, and scaled inside their teams. They push on when an experiment becomes a mandate, how to keep

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50:51

471: Dear CEO: This Is What Marketing Actually Does

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/08/15

Most B2B CEOs never spent time in marketing. Fewer than one in five ever held the title. Which explains a lot. From undervalued budgets to misaligned expectations, marketing often gets boxed in as a support function instead of the growth driver it is. If marketing is going to lead, CEOs need to understand what it can really do and what to look for in a CMO who’s built to deliver. To set the record straight, Drew taps three marketing leaders, Rebecca Stone (formerly Cisco), Grant Johnson (Chief

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54:02

470: The CMOs Playbook for the Coldest Seat in the...

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/08/12

The CMO role is not for the faint of heart. Growth targets loom large. Every dollar and decision gets second-guessed. MarTech keeps stacking up until it threatens to topple over. Drew calls it the coldest seat in the C-suite. It is also the most dynamic, the one that rewards clear thinking, fearless collaboration, and a readiness to shake up the playbook. In this episode, Drew sits down with hosts Alec Cheung and Barb VanSomeren of The Marketing Share podcast to share wisdom from his own career

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53:00

469: GenAI Video & Audio: Tools, Tradeoffs & Lessons

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/08/08

It started with a 90-day challenge: make a GenAI-powered video promoting the 2025 CMO Super Huddle using only off-the-shelf tools. What followed was equal parts ambition, frustration, learning, and editing. Along the way, Drew got a crash course in prompt writing, script timing, voice cloning, and the realities of working inside tools that promise automation but still require a certain level of finesse. With GenAI coach Samantha Stark of Phyusion guiding the early stages and Steve Mudd of

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50:20

468: Demand-Side Sales: The Forces Behind Every Yes

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/08/01

Every customer reaches a turning point. Something's not working the way it used to. And now they're ready for change. That's when your product appears as a possibility. But if you lead with features or force-fit personas, you'll miss the real energy behind their decision. That's why Bob Moesta starts with struggle. In this episode, he joins Drew to discuss how demand forms through struggling moments, not random needs, and why nobody buys any product randomly, ever. As the author of Demand-Side

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48:44

467: The Strategy-First MarTech Stack

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/07/25

AI tools. CDPs. DAMs. Shiny objects everywhere. It’s easy to fall for the promise of more tech. But without a plan, that stack starts stacking you. Martech only performs when every platform has a purpose, every user is accountable, and every dollar spent ties back to a strategic outcome. Drew is joined by Kathie Johnson (formerly Sitecore) and Kris Salazar (Appcast) to talk MarTech headaches, from stack bloat to AI overload to the brutal cost of tools no one’s using. Because building a smarter

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26:49

466: The Synthetic Research Advantage

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/07/22

Synthetic research is rewriting the rules—and Jon Lombardo is here to explain how. In this Huddles Quick Take, the Evidenza co-founder breaks down the three biggest misconceptions marketers have about AI-generated research, from assumptions about accuracy to the myth of average insights. You’ll hear how synthetic research can help you test messaging, uncover clear audience insights, and even rewrite jargon so sales and buyers actually understand it—all without waiting months or spending a

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51:34

465: Positioning as a Growth Engine

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/07/18

Penguins spend 75% of their lives in the water, actively positioning themselves exactly where they need to be to hunt and survive. It’s intentional placement. Strong brands do the same. They know where they belong and commit. Too many don’t. They drift, hoping the market finds them. You’ve got to stake your spot and give your marketing something to stand on. In this episode, Drew brings in Marni Puente (SAIC) and Sara Larsen (Wolters Kluwer Health), two marketers who’ve learned that positioning

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51:11

464: Turning Analyst Relations into Market Traction

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/07/11

You can’t game the Gartner system. You can’t fast-track a Forrester mention. But you can show up prepared, relevant, and consistent. Analyst Relations is the slowest move on the board and the one that defines how your company is positioned on calls, in rooms, and across the category. To trace the full arc of this relationship, Drew is joined by Dan Lowden (Blackbird.AI), Lorie Coulombe (Equity Shift), and Lynn Tornabene (Anteriad). These are marketing leaders who’ve built analyst trust from

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30:41

463: CRO: Friend or Foe?

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/07/08

Joelle Kaufman has been both a CRO and a CMO—and she’s here to tell you: if sales and marketing aren’t on the same page, you’re leaving revenue on the table. In this Huddles Quick Take, Joelle outlines the three most common mistakes CMOs make when trying to align with sales—and how to avoid them. From pipeline goals to budget tension to attribution battles, Joelle shares how CMOs can build better partnerships that actually drive revenue. What You’ll Learn: 3 alignment mistakes that keep

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44:13

462: Building a Better ABM Motion

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/07/04

ABM falls apart fast when teams jump in before locking down who they’re chasing, why it matters, and how it’s all supposed to run. Sales pushes one list, marketing builds another, and no one agrees on who actually matters. No shared ICP? No clean data? Well, no chance. You need a strategy. Guest host Jon Russo (B2B Fusion) corrals Heidi Bullock (Tealium), Patti Newcomer (Centerbase), and Bindu Chellappan (Corpay) for a breakdown of how they’re keeping their ABM engines running clean. Think pods

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51:34

461: Pricing Power: Marketing's CFO Currency

Renegade Marketers Unite ·

2025/06/27

Let's face it, most marketing metrics don't travel well to the CFO's office. Pricing power is different. It's measurable, margin-backed, and proof that your brand is strong enough to charge more without losing volume. To help make sense of it all, Drew brings in Chris Burggraeve, Founder of Vicomte and author of books on marketing and business strategy. Together, they discuss what pricing power means, how to measure it, and why it's the most powerful way to communicate marketing value to your

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